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"Everything for which there isn't a wiki yet"-wiki?

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So we basically are currently related with two other wikis, the fcoc vsbattles wiki and the joke battles wiki.

At least the latter was mainly created when we made the decision to keep such profiles from the main wiki. (I think)

So I wondered if there is interest in a wiki for simply anything else that we usually don't make profiles for here (except it in some version already exists and I am not aware of it) and also if anyone would actually want to create and take care of such a wiki if there is interest.

(I know as the one making the suggestion it seems like I should do it, but I really currently don't have the time to administer a wiki, even if I wouldn't even try to keep the stats accurate).


So what would then be things that would go there for example?

Well, anything that is 18+ out of sexual reason (so **** characters basically), anything from webnovels that aren't sufficiently popular to have profiles here, not notable "What if"-versions, spinoff versions and otherwise non-notable alternative canon characters, and generally anything else that we don't create here (for example because giving reliable stats for the characters proofed to be too hard for the time being or something).


Especially in case of the latter such a wiki probably wouldn't be held as accurate as this main one, but it would provide a place to create such profiles and have serious discussions about the characters.

Opinions?

(btw. I just put the thread on this board, because it is mostly off-topic to the matters of this wiki)
 
Despite the name of the site, Joke Battles allows serious profiles for characters not allowed on here. Such as YouTube profiles like AVGN, JonTron, Old Spice etc. Along with characters that wouldn't be allowed here like Ultimate Maxi Fusion from the DB games. The wiki isn't exclusive to nonsensical entirely joke profiles.

I'm not super opposed to another wiki, but I don't think it's necessary. There's already a place for fan characters and a place for joke characters/serious profiles not allowed here. The only things I can think of with no wiki to host are pornography and Suggsverse, which I don't think really requires a wiki for in the first place.

Plus I don't think this wiki would want to be associated with or link to a site which hosts more sexually, Wikia Guidelines inappropriate, foul things.

And I especially think it'd be unesseary stress and work for some staff to also monitor this additional wiki to make sure stats are accurate.
 
Well if this is going to be a site that values accuracy, and a site that we're going to be affiliated with, there will have to be some steps to make sure that the place is somewhat accurate, as to make our site not look bad.

Again I guess anyone can make a wiki they want, but I still think it is rather unnecessary. FC/OC and JBW already covers most things to make a profile for.

The only things that can't have nowhere to go really are Suggsverse and pornography, and I don't think this wiki would want to be affiliated with a place hosting such things.
 
I've actually been wanting to make something like this, for nearly a year now. I was gonna call it "Anything Goes vs battles wiki" or something of the like. Like Saikou said, all work is voluntary and I'd be more than willing to help moderate it in anyway I can.
 
Darkanine said:
I've actually been wanting to make something like this, for nearly a year now. I was gonna call it "Anything Goes vs battles wiki" or something of the like. Like Saikou said, all work is voluntary and I'd be more than willing to help moderate it in anyway I can.
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The name should probably have except waking and downplaying on it.
 
@Darkmon. That stuff would go on JBW anyway. I presume this wiki will be more for serious profiles for just about anything.
 
Darkanine said:
@Darkmon. That stuff would go on JBW anyway. I presume this wiki will be more for serious profiles for just about anything.
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Well again like I said, more serious profiles are allowed on JBW if they aren't otherwise allowed on VS Battles.
 
The two ideas I have wouldn't be allowed on joke battles.

Also, Joke battles homepage says

  • Do not create serious profiles. They are not funny, insulting towards fans of humor, and do not fit into our meme system.
 
I strongly agree with Ryukama. The staff here do not have the time to manage another site, **** is not allowed by Wikia, and we have most other areas already covered.
 
@Loyal that rule was more of a joke play on towards the way this site had a rule against joke profiles. "Do not create joke profiles. They are not funny, insulting to fans of the franchises and do not fit into our tiering system." Since VS is against joke profiles, the joke was JBW would be have their rule written in the opposite way.

And since then the site is more open to profiles like Ultimate Maxi Fusion, etc. Plus the Old Spice profiles, AVGN pages, etc. are not technically joke profiles. They're really only put on JBW this site doesn't want them, for good reason mostly.

JBW for a long time has been a place to redirect things otherwise not allowed here besides FC/OC. Unless your two ideas are Suggsverse or something from ****, it should be allowed on JBW as long as it's not allowed on VS.
 
No offense to Ryu, but serious profiles are very hard to find on JBW nowadays. As others have said, no one is force to dedicate their time to this, it's probably going to be a fairly niche thing that I am more than willing to help run.
 
I don't see why we need a Wiki for hentai. And Suggsverse shouldn't be hosted or promoted anywhere, either.

The very description and idea is cringey to an extreme.

If one truly wants to make profiles for characters that aren't allowed here, either for not fitting our standards like how Ryu mentioned, they can do so in JBW. If you wanna make profiles for Fanfic characters, do so at FC-OC Wiki. If you want to make a profile for Eroge Characters like Monster Girl Quest (Cause this is really the only reason someone would suggest **** Characters), they can do so in personal Wikias.

Although, ACF Wiki HAS profiles for **** Things. Although they are not nearly as proeminent as us, and the wiki itself is niche.
 
@Dark Just because not a lot of people make the more serious profiles recently. Does not mean that JBW doesn't allow said profiles or that an entirely new wiki is necessitated.
 
**** is not unallowed by Wiki. All you have to do is put an "18+" Warning on your wikia that pops up when you try accessing it.

There's no need to be prudes about it, but I will also not pretend it fits with the purpose and image we are trying to hold.
 
I agree with Matthew.

Except about the ACF wiki. I still think that the profile explanations there are usually of considerably higher quality than our own, and although they do not have as many visitors, they are still considerably more popular than the OBD, despite the language barriers, due to sheer high quality. Basically, no ACF-criticism please.
 
Hmm... didn't know that such things were supposed to go to joke battles.

Well, in that case from my side that is sufficient.

(and I certainly didn't intent for staff of this page to take care of another wiki, neither did I expect official affiliation)

Though maybe joke battles wants to mention that those profiles can also go there in some place people actually notice, since I might wasn't the only one who didn't know that ^^


(Always thought wikias policy was to include some 18+ sign for 18+ stuff. Seems I was wrong about that)
 
Well, regardless if it is allowed or not, as an all-ages wiki, we cannot be affilated with a wiki that contains pornography.
 
I'm not criticizing, I'm just pointing out that it has a more niche focus, and that their standards are looser.

Look, if Users / Staff Members from our Wiki want to make such a place, then I allow them to do so, and to use our Tiering System or a modified version of it. I would just be against linking it on the Main Page.
 
Also, it's worth pointing out that ACF has just as many poor pages as us, and it has many issues and inaccuracies, such as almost never using calculations, as well as incomplete profiles that vastly lowball character.

If I am not mistaken, DarkLK himself admitted that most of the "Non Visual Novel" profiles there are bad.

I don't think the Wikia is bad, far from it. But it is man-made like any other website, and to pretend it is without faults would be dishonest.
 
Okay. Never mind about the ACF then.

I do not think that we should encourage the staff to waste their time on a likely doomed obscure side-project, rather than help out with managing this wiki though.
 
I am not saying that the ACF is without faults, just that their explanation texts are generally more thorough and analytical than ours.
 
Ryukama said:
@Dark Just because not a lot of people make the more serious profiles recently. Does not mean that JBW doesn't allow said profiles or that an entirely new wiki is necessitated.
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Well it could be used for things that don't really fit on joke Wiki like less notable characters or video game versions of a character like arkam series Batman besides if someone tried to use it for reference it would immediately lose credibility to someone who is less knowledgeable about the site simply because it has the word joke in it. Also due to the nature of the site any profile would likely be a one-man show as no one would make revision threads for it even if they did it would likely go unnoticed and doesn't have a proper board to go on.
 
I agree with Ryu, Matt, and Ant; from what I know, the pages for nsfw characters and other characters that aren't allowed on here end up on google docs eventually, so it's not like we'll never see them otherwise.
 
No Matt. There's a difference between 18+ and X-Rated. Pornography is X-Rated and not allowed on any Fandom wikia. 18+ material is allowed as long as a warning is posted.
 
@DontTalk I have made a bolded note on JBW's front page to further specify this.

@Darkmon Said obscure characters are also allowed on Joke Battles and have been since pretty much the beginning of the site. One of the earliest profiles was one from an obscure Dreamworks video game. That technically isn't a "joke profile." The front page of this wiki tells people to post things that technically aren't joke profiles there.

There have been some serious content revision threads made and gone over. Even calculations for joke characters. The site never has been and still isn't exclusively for jokes and nonsense, regardless of the name.

The only things this boils down to are, a site for people to post Suggs and ****. And that people simply don't want to post their profiles on JBW. I don't think the desire to post the absolute lowest of the low and just not wanting to go to JBW necessitates an entirely new wiki.
 
Well, I agree about having no NSFW characters. I was more referring to obscure comic book characters or characters from really obscure video games, or other kind of media. Spin offs and Non-Canon too.
 
I still strongly agree with Ryukama. We should probably close this thread.
 
@Matt that is sexual suggestion an graphic material. Pornography a.k.a x-rated material, is not allowed. You can't make a wiki for a **** site and literally post the videos there or whatever. It's not allowed.
 
Ryukama said:
@DontTalk I have made a bolded note on JBW's front page to further specify this.
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thanks. With that I have archieved.... something with this thread.


Well from my side this thread could be closed with that. So unless someone wants to still have some important discussion here, some staff member could do so.
 
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