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I'm personally iffy on it, since it is very weird in verse, but might as well try;
The above reminds me a lot of Cultivation Domains, so I wanted to mention them.
Additionally, Concepts are called "Personal Laws", as in, it is its own law separate from the true universal law. What that means is for them, and their area, the element and stuff are shaped and behave according to their own concept, rather than the universal law. So if someone had a Concept of fire that healed, in his domain and location, all fire will heal instead of damaging.
And what's more, where everything in the world requires mana or world energy to do magical shenanigans, Concepts are different, as they do not require mana or energy to function correctly (although it does increase their strength).
And there is also a statement stating that Concepts manipulate the very laws of the world, which makes sense, since for example, a Fire Element User in his own domain or range will have fire functioning according to his concept, ie they are most likely manipulating the laws of the world (which are considered concept, as things only come to existence once a law of it has been made)
There is also another Domain, called "World", which is an entirely separate world that is not related at all to the main world, and anything that happens inside does not affect the outside world. It is a much higher evolution (that also requires stronger existence, since the worlds are large as shit), and we are shown that while concepts are initially weak in Worlds (not domains, keep that in mind), they still state that it tries to shape the world. This fits with the definition of Type 2 Concept, where it shapes the entire reality in its area of influence, in this case being a domain, sanctuary, world, or just their senses.
All of these remind me of Cultivation Domains, where characters put forth their domain, and the Dao inside functions accordingly to their interpretation of it, which is exactly what is happening here.
All in all, with the scans above, I'm proposing making Concepts Type 2, rather than just Concept Type 3, since they are similar to conventional type 2 concepts, can shape reality, manipulate the laws, do not require mana or any energy to function, and changing them would change everything related to it inside the world. I'm not sure how to prove concept type 1, so that'd be left as it is for now.
P.S If something/concept that governs a person, also contains all of these concepts (along with everything else), would that make said concept type 2 or nah?
Agree (3): @BestMGQScalerEver, @Super_Nova, @Vietthai96
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Introduction
In Extra's Death, there are things called Concepts. They emerge when one reaches an Expert stage of an Element (Fire, Water, Death, etc...), and has their own interpretation on a certain element. Usually, that'll be Type 3 Concept, since nothing else is mentioned, and it's based on interpretation. However, there are a few things that are weird about this.Domains and Personal Law
There are things called Domains, Sanctuary, Worlds, etc... It is basically imposing/filling a section of the world with your own energy and Concept, and its higher level, Sanctuary, is basically evolving it into its own separate dimension, separate from the universe itself iirc.The above reminds me a lot of Cultivation Domains, so I wanted to mention them.
Additionally, Concepts are called "Personal Laws", as in, it is its own law separate from the true universal law. What that means is for them, and their area, the element and stuff are shaped and behave according to their own concept, rather than the universal law. So if someone had a Concept of fire that healed, in his domain and location, all fire will heal instead of damaging.
And what's more, where everything in the world requires mana or world energy to do magical shenanigans, Concepts are different, as they do not require mana or energy to function correctly (although it does increase their strength).
And there is also a statement stating that Concepts manipulate the very laws of the world, which makes sense, since for example, a Fire Element User in his own domain or range will have fire functioning according to his concept, ie they are most likely manipulating the laws of the world (which are considered concept, as things only come to existence once a law of it has been made)
There is also another Domain, called "World", which is an entirely separate world that is not related at all to the main world, and anything that happens inside does not affect the outside world. It is a much higher evolution (that also requires stronger existence, since the worlds are large as shit), and we are shown that while concepts are initially weak in Worlds (not domains, keep that in mind), they still state that it tries to shape the world. This fits with the definition of Type 2 Concept, where it shapes the entire reality in its area of influence, in this case being a domain, sanctuary, world, or just their senses.
All of these remind me of Cultivation Domains, where characters put forth their domain, and the Dao inside functions accordingly to their interpretation of it, which is exactly what is happening here.
All in all, with the scans above, I'm proposing making Concepts Type 2, rather than just Concept Type 3, since they are similar to conventional type 2 concepts, can shape reality, manipulate the laws, do not require mana or any energy to function, and changing them would change everything related to it inside the world. I'm not sure how to prove concept type 1, so that'd be left as it is for now.
P.S If something/concept that governs a person, also contains all of these concepts (along with everything else), would that make said concept type 2 or nah?
Tl;dr
Make concepts type 2 instead of 3, since they shape the world, manipulate the laws, and change everything related to the concept according to their interpretation. This will apply to Neo Hargraves for now. Oh and, Intent/Seed of Existence will be Type 2 as well due to governing said Concepts.Agree (3): @BestMGQScalerEver, @Super_Nova, @Vietthai96
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