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Fairy Tail Hundred Year Quest Discussion Thread 10

it is stated that it would rise again from the ashes after the attack, and Zeref was going out as one point, but at another, he wanted to die, he was confusing as he was crazy.
 
CNBA3 said:
it is stated that it would rise again from the ashes after the attack, and Zeref was going out as one point, but at another, he wanted to die, he was confusing as he was crazy.
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Regenerationn (Mid-High; was stated numerous times to be capable of regenerating from its ashes)


Zeref never went all out against natsu as he even stated that DF Natsu probably still couldn't defeat him.
 
Also Base Natsu had rage power, not to mention Base Zeref wasn't really hurt by Natsu at all, and even if he was, I would consider it PIS

WE'VE LITERALLY GONE OVER THIS 1 BILLION TIMES

Nothing is new here at all, so let's just drop it, this was settled in the CRT's like a few weeks ago, what should be focused on is just Deus Sema and the Jura/Orga feat
 
he was clearly staggered and hurt by Base Natsu's punches, nothing really PIS as he would be able to outlast Natsu unless he negates his immortality.

Regenerationn (Mid-High; was stated numerous times to be capable of regenerating from its ashes)


Zeref never went all out against natsu as he even stated that DF Natsu probably still couldn't defeat him.

That would be because of his immortality, he wanted to die by his hands but he lost the chance to with his Igneel power.
 
That line of reasoning doesn't work because then Irene and August could Stomp Zeref at that point which isn't the case at all as even August stated Zeref is their only real chance against Acnologia.
 
August was ingorently referring to Zeref using FH to do the Time Reset, and August was stated to be able to use more magic than Zeref could
 
CNBA3 said:
August was ingorently referring to Zeref using FH to do the Time Reset, and August was stated to be able to use more magic than Zeref could
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August didn't know about Time Reset or what FH could actually do, as Gray was the first person he ever told.
 
August is not stronger than Base Zeref

Once again this stuff was settled not even that long a time ago in CRT's, we don't need to go over it again because of one person's disagreement
 
August managed to beat Natsu in one shot despite it being a fire blast. Zeref said that it is "likely" the other Spirggans did not know it, not that it was certain that they didn't, and I said Ignorantly for August as he likely did not know that either.
 
"Once again this stuff was settled not even that long a time ago in CRT's, we don't need to go over it again because of one person's disagreement"

I'm just gonna keep saying this, we don't need to revise the God Tiers again... we already discussed all the scaling to the Phoenix in the last CRT and all this stuff was said, no need to do this dance a second time
 
that was before taking into consideration that it is their Immortality and Resistance comes into play which doesn't equate to stats.
 
The Zeref and Acno stuff was already settled a little bit ago the only thing that could be argued for is the Dragon Gods once we get more info about them.
 
No, we went over resistances and Immortality before plenty of times, in CRT's before you returned, and we still scale the characters to the Phoenix

Just leave the God tiers alone, they were settled already

Deus Sema and the Jura calc are the more pressing concern
 
that would be considered outlier still, form how the Etherion Blast size would only be almost 100 Gigatons (Island level), and Acnologia still was held back by the entire magic power of all wizards on the continent which do not scale to Etherion
 
Nobody agrees with using boat speed scaling rather than actual measurements given by the manga, Fiore's size was also settled many times ago and it should stay the same size since it makes more sense to use the method we have been using

Nothing really changes drastically except Deus Sema, also nothing is an outlier here, point being let's not re-tread old discussions that were already decided not even that long ago
 
Fiore's size is not official measurements too, that is just pixel calcing, Ocean size is no different as well. as we have two means to find distance.
 
Yeah, both our methods rely on pixel scaling, which is accepted on the verse, but your distance involves assumptions based off of Boat Speed, while our current methods use actual given measurements from the manga, no matter how you slice it, we should be using legit statements rather than assuming distance based off boat speed which is far less reliable

You basically want to revise the whole verse, but all this stuff was gone over and agreed upon before many times, so please, let's just move on from this, I don't want another God Tier revision for a whole year
 
a boat speed is easy to find based on what it is, which is a Galleon, and those go 8 knots, and before you say "they are in a world of magic, so vehicles are much faster" might I remind you that there is another world where it is stated that their technology is far superior to that of Eerthland's, and they only go as fast based on the magic power that they channel, such as the magic plug or whatcha call it.
 
@CNBA

I already explained that your reasoning for scaling Acno below Etherion is wrong. Both keys for Acno scale above Etherion in multiple ways campared to the one Etherion statement your argument hinges on. There is also this lovely thing called abrogation or retcons in which later info provided supercedes prior info unless it is contradicted but by multiple sources.

Etherion needs more magic than everyone on Ishgar? Well that got noped the moment people on Ishgar stuffed him in a glow ball for 5 seconds while he scaled above something greater than Etherion, his previous form who scaled above a guy who scaled above something that scales above Etherion. Or we can go with the current chain which has all the god tiers scaling above Etherion by feats.

Literally every scaling chain for the god tiers puts them above Etherion without a shadow of a doubt and the only thing to counter this is a single statement which was blatantly retconned.
 
which FT clearly does by that point as it shows that Acnologia when his resistance to magic was gone was below that of Etherion as he could not escape from the magic of every wizard on the continent which is stated to be weaker than Etherion's energy. He only scaled based on Resistance and it was stated that those things do not equate to state by Antoniofer and Calaca. how was that statement retcon?
 
So apparently the User Jvando noticed some issues with the Deus Sema calc and he is making his own version, It's not a drastic change, but still some changes nonetheless, so let's just put everything on hold till he does that, he's busy with finals at the moment and will post it eventually

So let's just enjoy the holidays and new years till he gets out his calc to see which is more reliable, in the mean time

Get excited for the next chapter, please no more big CRT's for a while
 
Moon Dragon God eats the Moon, moves the Moon, or destroys it, either way, it's potential is high as fuq, Tier 5 Please!!!
 
Zackra1799 said:
Inb4 Moon Dragon God Destroys the moo
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(Take for a moment a hypothetical situation where I do change my mind about Fiore's size and use that for Etherio) If you wanted a Moon level feat or higher, we could have used the comprehensive destruction for the volume of Fiore for vaporization.
 
Moon Dragon is also stated to have the power of the stars, maybe we can get Tier 4 stuff, I mean it's not like other verses haven't jumped from tier 6 to 4, cough cough God of Highschool

Point being, there's potential for high feats
 
Question is if we can consider Orga's lightning to be lightning speed. He doesn't have the feats Laxus does to say it is so I dunno how good the feat will be.
 
I think Orga and Laxus's lightning were comparable in speed, so it should theoretically scale to lightning speed
 
though Rufus' lightning feat takes seconds, something that should be noted that not all Lightning are equal.
 
Anime timeframes don't always work, Orga's Lightning is comparable in speed to Laxus's so it should be lightning speed
 
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