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Alright so everyone knows what Fear Manipulation is. Character A has something scary or fearful about them, commonly attributed to aura or mere existence, and Character B gets scared and can't move or they become physically affected like pain, fainting, dying or something else.
It's commonly argued where in a verse this scenario plays out across several to dozens of different characters. One character is stronger than the other within the verse's setting such as a level 1 being fear haxxed by a level 4. The characters will have a generic quote about being on a different level and thus people add layers from that and so. I won't give examples since every verse in the last decade or so has some scaling for it and follows the "special trait X" or "they're on another level!" idea.
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Alright so everyone knows what Fear Manipulation is. Character A has something scary or fearful about them, commonly attributed to aura or mere existence, and Character B gets scared and can't move or they become physically affected like pain, fainting, dying or something else.
It's commonly argued where in a verse this scenario plays out across several to dozens of different characters. One character is stronger than the other within the verse's setting such as a level 1 being fear haxxed by a level 4. The characters will have a generic quote about being on a different level and thus people add layers from that and so. I won't give examples since every verse in the last decade or so has some scaling for it and follows the "special trait X" or "they're on another level!" idea.
- One issue is that fear hax is often associated with other abilities/traits. What looks like fear hax is regularly just supernatural intimidation aka Social Influencing. Others include Mind Manipulation, soul presence/pressure or some other. One character may fear another due to some primal instincts, another may fear a character due to their souls ominous aura. There are also characters in which they are so plain that that alone is scary itself.
- Masking these under fear hax and then trying to scale them as a hierarchy creates false equivalencies between different concepts. A verse will mechanize the character's willpower, say the type of being they are, or the amount of energy they have grants them resistance. Without proper differentiation, we've created a scaling system that treats multiple unrelated mechanisms as equivalent simply because they produce similar effects.
- Fear hax is often just Social Influencing within verses. That is fear caused solely by overwhelming power, killing intent, or statements like “he’s on another level” do not suffice. A distinct mechanism must be present.
- The mechanism behind the fear is the layer category. Whether it’s soul-based, Mind Manipulation, supernatural energy, primal instinct, etc. For example, fear hax in Bleach is soul-based.
- Which resistance was bypassed. This is crucial in labeling as there are different paths to induce fear and thus one character might have 4 layers in soul based fear hax, another might have it through primal instincts or supernatural intimidation.
- Whether that resistance is actually comparable. In essence, do not assume layers in one category, apply to other categories (e.g, primal instincts ≠ spiritually induced fear ≠ Mind Manipulation based fear hax)
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