Flash #75 Spoilers - Still Force and Speed Force

[Catalyst75]

In the most recent Flash issue, we have the Turtle state that he planned to use his shell, in conjunction with the Speed Force, to bring the entire Multiverse to a halt. This fits with what we saw in the first Justice League arc, where the Still Force reaching full power completely halted the expansion of the Universe i.e. brought a halt to the dark energy that drives expansion.

As for Barry, he uses the Speed Force to connect with every living thing and speeds up all of space and time by a few seconds, taking everyone into the future with him while selectively leaving Future Turtle behind. It also points out that, like his first time travelling through time, he travels through the "nothingness outside of space and time".

How would both influence the potential power of those wielding the Speed and Still Forces?

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

Where are some scans at?

 

[Catalyst75]

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

He's fast enough to avoid the still force.

 

[Catalyst75]

It's not simply that he's fast enough to avoid it. He says he took all of space and time and moved it into the future a few seconds ahead of King Turtle and his Still Force power.

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

Interesting.

So what will you do with these scans?

 

[Catalyst75]

I want to check what this level of time manipulation for both Speed Force and Still Force means, though it is self-evident that it it at least Multiversal, given King Turtle was going to halt time in the Multiverse, and Barry said he moved "all time and space" forward a few seconds (whether that is of one Universe, or the Multiverse, I don't know).

 

[Antvasima]

I don't know if this is quantifiable.

 

[Catalyst75]

Would it be considered hax, then? Universal or multiversal (given the mentions of the Multiverse and "all of space and time")?

 

[Antvasima]

I do not know. You can ask PrinceOfTheMorning and Sandman31 to comment here.

 

[NostalgiaTrip]

Damn... Barry Allen may have just moved into the league of God's. Let's be honest... That was a Darkseid level feat there.


He moved Time and Space a few seconds ahead of the Still Force... A cosmic force of nature? And. It just his own universe... But the multiverse?


Really curious if this will result in an upgrade for Barry. Presence knows he needs more respect.

 

[Antvasima]

I do not know. You can ask PrinceOfTheMorning and Sandman31 to comment here.

^

 

[Catalyst75]

I just asked them to look at this.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Thanks.

 

[PrinceOfTheMorning]

Don't know if this is applicable to AP, it's a crazy level of hax at least though.

 

[Antvasima]

Yes. So what do you suggest?

 

[PrinceOfTheMorning]

Perhaps Catalyst can add an imgur link with a short explanation to Barry's profile under the Rebirth section? Label it as Space-Time Manipulation?

 

[Antvasima]

That seems fine.

 

[UsernameMan12]

Flash was always hax, not surprised

 

[Antvasima]

So is somebody willing to update the profile page?

 

[Catalyst75]

Needs to be unlocked, first.

 

[Antvasima]

I have unlocked it. Tell me here when you are done.

 

[Catalyst75]

I'll see what I can do.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay.

 

[Catalyst75]

Done.

Let me know if the image links are to your liking.

 

[Antvasima]

I made a few structural adjustments: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/index.php?title=Flash_(Post-Flashpoint)&diff=5047029&oldid=5046963

 

[NostalgiaTrip]

Before this gets close, shouldn't his range get upgraded as well... Cause I'm pretty certain that's universal at least.


Or is that a different facet?

 

[Antvasima]

What do you mean with universal range?

 

[NostalgiaTrip]

Well... He's reached every living thing with the speed force to do the jump right? And the speed force is a multiversal force?


Hence multiverse range. The universe i wrote was a typo. Meant to say multiverse

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. I suppose that seems fine then. Although his regular attacks should obviously have the same range as previously.

 

[NostalgiaTrip]

Yeah I agree too.

 

[NostalgiaTrip]

So what if we say Multiversal via Speed Force

 

[Antvasima]

That should be fine.

 

[NostalgiaTrip]

Added the change.

 

[Antvasima]

Thanks. Is there anything left to do here?

 

[NostalgiaTrip]

Don't think so

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. I will close this then.