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Frieza Force Civilization Page

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Okay, so I made a draft for the Frieza Force in my Sandbox: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Flashlight237/Sandbox#Frieza_Force

It's largely incomplete, but eh. If the Gem Homeworld got a Civilization page in the wiki, why not? I'm pretty sure I missed a lotta things, but I was sticking with the canon rather than going into stupid crap like Dragon Ball GT, the movies (only Battle of Gods, Return of Frieza, and DBS: Broly are considered canon), and the video games. I mainly wrote up this CRT because, well, I doubt this is anything I should just throw out there unlike pretty much any other article. In any case, are there things that I've missed or things I should go in and fix in this thing?
 
Aside from Tagoma being 4-B in RoF, Dragon Ball Super never really showed any difference in power in the Frieza force compared to Dragon Ball Z.

I would say most of them are like 5-C, with higher ranking members such as Cui, Dodoria Zarbon and Tagoma being 5-B, with the latter being 4-B after the training
 
I don't think Frieza himself should count in his army profile since this would be a general profile for the Frieza force

Though if Frieza is included, then he's Small Star level+ in his final form, not Dwarf Star level+.

Also as stated. Low 2-C Golden Frieza should be added too
 
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Gilad_Hyperstar said:
I don't think Frieza himself should count in his army profile since this would be a general profile for the Frieza force
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Ah yeah. That. Blame The Diamonds and their being on the Gem Homeworld profile for that one.
 
I was wondering it wasn't made before, it's even used as an example in the Civilization Tiering page.

Why would it be universal at its peak? They didnt/don't have control over the entire or even most of the universe. In the Frieza arc they were still planning to invade planets like Yardrat, while many sectors of the universe weren't under their control, like the areas surrounding Earth, Namek, Vampa and other places where Babidi operates or other races are free. Even in Moro's arc we see planet that aren't under their control. Also, if they trade planet it means that someone buys them, and it likely isn't under their jurisdiction. I can see it being galactic, or even intergalactic if we want to stretch it and take in account Shin's statement about the universe having like 30 planets with life forms on it or how many they are, but just because the DB universe is empty.

Regarding Frieza being in it, some civilizations page have their leader (usually overpowered and tier-changing) in them
 
SamanPatou said:
I was wondering it wasn't made before, it's even used as an example in the Civilization Tiering page.

Why would it be universal at its peak? They didnt/don't have control over the entire or even most of the universe. In the Frieza arc they were still planning to invade planets like Yardrat, while many sectors of the universe weren't under their control, like the areas surrounding Earth, Namek, Vampa and other places where Babidi operates or other races are free. Even in Moro's arc we see planet that aren't under their control. Also, if they trade planet it means that someone buys them, and it likely isn't under their jurisdiction. I can see it being galactic, or even intergalactic if we want to stretch it and take in account Shin's statement about the universe having like 30 planets with life forms on it or how many they are, but just because the DB universe is empty.

Regarding Frieza being in it, some civilizations page have their leader (usually overpowered and tier-changing) in them
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This was what I got from the Dragon Ball wiki: "Frieza alone is shown to be in control of at least 448 planets[8] and was known to control 70% of the universe at the Frieza Force's peak."

The planets thing actually has a source: the Resurrection F manga adaptation. Controlling the majority of the universe was a thing mentioned in several parts of the article, but I dunno where that came from.
 
I remember the 448 planets thing, and I agree it's possible for them to control that number, I have issues with the universe thing, that apparently doesn't have a source (if it's not the RoF manga, of which I can't find scans)
 
SamanPatou said:
I remember the 448 planets thing, and I agree it's possible for them to control that number, I have issues with the universe thing, that apparently doesn't have a source (if it's not the RoF manga, of which I can't find scans)
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Yeah, I was suspicious of that as well. I removed the Universal Civilization claim.
 
The only Frieza Soldiers that are that strong are Sishimi and Tagoma; who are 5-B pre training and High 4-C and 4-B respectively post training.
 
DarkDragonMedeus said:
The only Frieza Soldiers that are that strong are Sishimi and Tagoma; who are 5-B pre training and High 4-C and 4-B respectively post training.
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That's who I was thinking in particular with that key: Sashimi and Tagoma.
 
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Okay, I've made the corrections suggested. Anything I've missed?
 
Personally I wouldn't include Broly, since his being part of the FF was very brief and not really loyal or something, but I'll wait for more opinions
 
Slacjow said:
Big assumption.
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None of them really had anything going for them aside from Frieza's debut appearance, which had shown Frieza soldiers being confident about dealing with Namekian warriors at first because of a power level of 1000, then lost their shit when it was revealed the Namekians had a power level of 3000.
 
Now that I think of it, the soldiers brought on Namek were the elites of the army, I think it's stated somewhere. Imo, most of the soldiers might not be that strong, considering that there are hundreds if not thousands of them. The weaker saiyans in the Broly movie may be a support evidence
 
SamanPatou said:
Now that I think of it, the soldiers brought on Namek were the elites of the army, I think it's stated somewhere. Imo, most of the soldiers might not be that strong, considering that there are hundreds if not thousands of them. The weaker saiyans in the Broly movie may be a support evidence
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Eh, I dunno. Aside from Dodoria and Zarbon, I highly doubt those guys were elites.
 
Well, they still were like 20 soldiers, maybe more, but still enough to be considered elites of an army. I don't remember if Raditz is considered an elite soldier, but in that case it would be plausible for the one sent on Namek to be elites with that power level, while the majority of the forces vary in strength, as seen by the lower saiyans.
 
SamanPatou said:
Well, they still were like 20 soldiers, maybe more, but still enough to be considered elites of an army. I don't remember if Raditz is considered an elite soldier, but in that case it would be plausible for the one sent on Namek to be elites with that power level, while the majority of the forces vary in strength, as seen by the lower saiyans.
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I don't think Raditz was given the fact that he was pretty incompetent; so much so that he lost to Goku and Piccolo despite his huge power advantage. Nappa and Vegeta even saw him as a waste.
 
It definitely is a thing, though, Toriyama confirmed that Frieza trades planets and he based the character on building speculators
 
Moon level mooks is wrong. We see in the Broly Movie that most Saiyans and Frieza Soldiers don't even know how to use key and have to use guns to fight. Raditz is actually way above the average Saiyan since he can fly and fire Ki Blasts effectively.
 
Wasn't Raditz in the elite group with Nappa and Vegeta despite his power level being 1200-1500? If so that would mean the average soldier is much weaker than that.

Though the baseline 5-C came from Piccolo's power level of like 330, not from Raditz
 
SamanPatou said:
It definitely is a thing, though, Toriyama confirmed that Frieza trades planets and he based the character on building speculators
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I know it's what they do. I'm just saying that I've never heard them be called the Planet Trade Organization in Official Media.
 
Gilad_Hyperstar said:
Wasn't Raditz in the elite group with Nappa and Vegeta despite his power level being 1200-1500?
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I'd question their standards for "elite" if Raditz was.
Matthew_Schroeder said:
Moon level mooks is wrong. We see in the Broly Movie that most Saiyans and Frieza Soldiers don't even know how to use key and have to use guns to fight. Raditz is actually way above the average Saiyan since he can fly and fire Ki Blasts effectively.
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Two of the soldiers who rushed at the Namek warriors (again, who they presumed had a power level of 1000) were gun-toting soldiers as well: http://prntscr.com/vn0h26

Pretty sure it's false to claim moon-level mooks are wrong movie or no movie when you considered gun-toters are still confident enough to run in and take out foes with a power level of 1000.

Edit: Whoops; miscounted. There were FOUR gun-toting soldiers, actually; three of them here: http://prntscr.com/vn0xhp
And the fourth guy being some vampire-looking mofo.
 
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All Saiyans except for like 12 are considered low class. Middle Class only like 10 saiyans with Nappa being somewhere there and Elites are only Prince Vegeta and King Vegeta. Raditz is a Low-Class who's like very close to middle class. 5-C mooks would have been consistent for Toei continuity, but the Broly Movie introduced the existence of Saiyans who are pretty much just 10-B's of the 10 G's perspective. Such as the case for Gine. The only true warriors we saw before than have just been high ranking elites within the force the whole time.

Although, they actually use Ki Guns that are much stronger than real guns.
 
DarkDragonMedeus said:
Although, they actually use Ki Guns that are much stronger than real guns.
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Tthis argument is a slippery slope because now people will use "Ki Control!" fallacies for ******* laser guns. It's very obvious that the Mook Saiyans in current canon aren't that strong.

See also Planet Vampa, which unless you want to argue is home to 5-B Fauna that also knows Ki Control, is a death sentence to most SAiyans.
 
They can't Ki Control Ki guns; it's just designed for non Ki users to fire explosive Ki blasts that may be Tier 8 roughly.

Oh, but Universe11 had random 3-A monsters that Dyspo struggled against.
 
(That soldier with a gun had a power level superior to that of Raditz)
 
Well, I'm not contrary to have most of the soldiers not being Moon level
 
Well, in any case, this leaves behind another problem. I mean both the Namek Saga and the Broly Movie have examples contradicting each other on how powerful mooks would be. Like, the Namek Saga evidently showed Moon level mooks (as even the gun-toting soldiers found a power level of 1000 laughable), yet the Broly Movie claims otherwise.
 
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