Genshin: Justification For Nod-Krai Chapter Key Traveler.

[MSahla]

3 Traveler topic CRTs in a row is crazy.

Since my last CRT about Traveler's key removal (Pre Nod-Krai Chapter) is already accepted and only need the grace period to apply it, so we considered that key is already gone.

Anyway, the purpose of this CRT is to make a justification for Traveler's Nod-Krai Chapter key. We already finished Nod-Krai archon quest yet theres still no justification for it, which is weird.

Note: the justification only covers Acts I to VI, excluding Act VIII, as there is a new scale for that act.

The rating and justification, more or less it would be like this:

Tier: High 8-C | 7-C | 7-B, at least 6-B with 99 Vision Buff | 6-B | 6-B | At least 6-B, higher with Nightsoul's Blessing, far higher after Skirk's training | At least 6-B, higher with Eternal Moon's Marrow

At least Country level (Same as before. Briefly kept up against Dottore who had stolen the power of the Three Moons, although he is not yet all-out), higher with Eternal Moon's Marrow (The Traveler possesses the Eternal Moon's Marrow inside of them for some time, supposedly just like Arlecchino, who is stronger than before after possessing the Iridescent Moon's Marrow. Fight against Phanton Form Rerir and manages to make him run away. Able to keep up with the 10% Rerir who is not serious for a while, but is eventually overwhelmed. The Traveler is able to fight and hold off 10% power of Rerir who is serious and wants to kill him.)

If you have a better idea of how the Justifications should look like, just say it.

While putting the scans, i found another feat of new ability for the Traveler, so i might as well just propose it here.

Limited Cosmic Awareness (Upon possessing the Eternal Moon's Marrow, the Traveler can sense the Frost Moon beyond the False Sky.)

This is limited because the traveler can sense it only after he possessed the Eternal Moon's Marrow, which he shouldn't be able to sense it again after not possessing the Moon Marrow anymore.

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Agree:
KingTempest - Oblivion_Of_The_Endless - Elizhaa - TWILIGHT-OP
LoudestProcedure - Apex_Predator_GX - PedjaTarzan - Furina003 - Insert_creative_name_here_12


Disagree:

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[LoudestProcedure]

Agreed

 

[PedjaTarzan]

At least Country level (Same as before if not stronger), higher with Eternal Moon's Marrow (The Traveler possess the Eternal Moon's Marrow within them for some times. Should be the same as Arlecchino whose more powerful than before upon possessing the Iridescent Moon's Marrow. Kept up with Flins against Phantom Form Rerir and managed to make him run away. Kept up with unserious 10% Rerir for a while with Flins, although ultimately got overwhelmed. Together with Nefer, the Traveler was able to fight and hold off 10% of Rerir who were serious and wanted to kill them), possibly even higher (Slightly weaker without the Moon Marrow, but manage to briefly kept up against Dottore who had stolen the power of the Three Moons, although he is not yet all-out.)

If traveler is higher with moon marrow, but weaker without it. it should be "lower" without moon marrow, because he kept up with someone not going all out theres no reason to assume why would he somehow be possibly stronger when: he got weaker when losing moon marrow and was also defeated fighting the someone who wasnt even going all out

 

[Random-Helper323]

Is there a calculation or a character being scaled from for these Tires?

 

[MSahla]

Is there a calculation or a character being scaled from for these Tires?

Yes, 6-B coming from this, 7-B from this, 7-C from this, and etc. The tiers is all in Genshin Impact verse page.

So, is there any thoughts about this CRT?

If traveler is higher with moon marrow, but weaker without it. it should be "lower" without moon marrow, because he kept up with someone not going all out theres no reason to assume why would he somehow be possibly stronger when: he got weaker when losing moon marrow and was also defeated fighting the someone who wasnt even going all out

Make sense.

 

[Puppet43]

Make sense.

Wouldn't marrowless Trav just be Base Nod Krai?
Ig u can put "Higher post Columbina Restriction"

 

[MSahla]

Wouldn't marrowless Trav just be Base Nod Krai?
Ig u can put "Higher post Columbina Restriction"

This

Note: the justification only covers Acts I to VI, excluding Act VIII, as there is a new scale for that act.

 

[Puppet43]

This

Then i dont get why would u put "lower without it" that just base Nod Krai

 

[MSahla]

Then i dont get why would u put "lower without it" that just base Nod Krai

Ig i can remove it.

 

[Random-Helper323]

Yes, 6-B coming from this, 7-B from this, 7-C from this, and etc. The tiers is all in Genshin Impact verse page.

Calculations all look good.

So, is there any thoughts about this CRT?

I don't know the verse, and it seems it's just a scaling CRT. I'll wait and see if more people that know the verse will step in and give thoughts. I'll withhold voting for now for professional reasons, but I'm leaning towards agreeing.

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

Should be Country Level (exchanged blows with Trilune Dottore although he wasn’t at full strength. The top 3 Harbingers are stated to be on par with gods). higher with the Eternal Moon Marrow (the Iridescent Moon Marrow provided a power boost to Arlecchino so the Eternal Marrow should do the same for Traveler. Blocked several attacks from 10% Rerir and generally did the best in fights against him)

Flins as a justification for the Traveler makes no sense as Flins’ scaling justification is in truth the Traveler.

 

[MSahla]

Should be Country Level (exchanged blows with Trilune Dottore although he wasn’t at full strength. The top 3 Harbingers are stated to be on par with gods). higher with the Eternal Moon Marrow (the Iridescent Moon Marrow provided a power boost to Arlecchino so the Eternal Marrow should do the same for Traveler)

Flins as a justification for the Traveler makes no sense as Flins’ scaling justification is in truth the Traveler.

I mean i mentioned flins and nefer because the traveler was with them, not that i mean the traveler were scale to/from them.

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

I mean i mentioned flins and nefer because the traveler was with them, not that i mean the traveler were scale to them.

They’re still unncessary in the justification especially Nefer as the Kuuvaki barrier pop up whenever Rerir does more dangerous moves so we know Traveler was basically carrying that fight.

 

[MSahla]

They’re still unncessary in the justification especially Nefer as the Kuuvaki barrier pop up whenever Rerir does more dangerous moves so we know Traveler was basically carrying that fight.

I mean.. It's just a name mentioning, it's not really that big deal. The Traveler still the one who gives more credit.

Because the justification were using those cutscenes, which is the cutscene where the traveler fight alongside other characters.

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

I mean.. It's just a name mentioning, it's not really that big deal. The Traveler still the one who gives more credit.

I understand but it just unnecessarily bloats the page. Keeping it concise but informative is better.

Really we don’t actually need mucj justifiaction for a vague higher rating

 

[KingTempest]

Calculations all look good.

I don't know the verse, and it seems it's just a scaling CRT. I'll wait and see if more people that know the verse will step in and give thoughts. I'll withhold voting for now for professional reasons, but I'm leaning towards agreeing.

pretty much the same, we got any verse handlers who know the scaling inside and out?

 

[MSahla]

pretty much the same, we got any verse handlers who know the scaling inside and out?

We pretty much agree of how this scaling works, as we already discuss it many times in General Discussion thread.

It's just some of them are not coming here yet.

 

[MSahla]

I don't see any supporters who already here have any problems with the scaling, they only talk about the justifications of it, so yeah..

 

[KingTempest]

Add my vote then

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Looks fine.

 

[Random-Helper323]

Which supporters need to be brought here?

 

[MSahla]

Which supporters need to be brought here?

@Puppet43 @PedjaTarzan @Insert_creative_name_here_12 and @LoudestProcedure already here.

Others probably @Furina003 @ZENZUYA @Le'garde273 @Giannysmag and @TWILIGHT-OP

 

[Random-Helper323]

@Puppet43 @PedjaTarzan @Insert_creative_name_here_12 and @LoudestProcedure already here.

Others probably @Furina003 @ZENZUYA @Le'garde273 @Giannysmag and @TWILIGHT-OP

What do all of you think of this thread?

 

[AsterReal]

I believe that even without the Eternal Moon Marrow, the Traveler should have "a higher" rating, considering that he was able to leave a small crack in Trilune Dottore’s shield, block a massive beam of his power, and then push it away.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Yes, 6-B coming from this, 7-B from this, 7-C from this, and etc. The tiers is all in Genshin Impact verse page.

The calculations look good.

 

[PedjaTarzan]

@Puppet43 @PedjaTarzan @Insert_creative_name_here_12 and @LoudestProcedure already here.

Others probably @Furina003 @ZENZUYA @Le'garde273 @Giannysmag and @TWILIGHT-OP

What do all of you think of this thread?

If traveler is higher with moon marrow, but weaker without it. it should be "lower" without moon marrow, because he kept up with someone not going all out theres no reason to assume why would he somehow be possibly stronger when: he got weaker when losing moon marrow and was also defeated fighting the someone who wasnt even going all out

ive already left a comment, everything looks fine next to what i commented

 

[Elizhaa]

The changes look fine.

 

[MSahla]

Should i wait the grace period for 48 hrs?

 

[Furina003]

@Puppet43 @PedjaTarzan @Insert_creative_name_here_12 and @LoudestProcedure already here.

Others probably @Furina003 @ZENZUYA @Le'garde273 @Giannysmag and @TWILIGHT-OP

What do all of you think of this thread?

seems fine, i agree with CRT

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

@Puppet43 @PedjaTarzan @Insert_creative_name_here_12 and @LoudestProcedure already here.

Others probably @Furina003 @ZENZUYA @Le'garde273 @Giannysmag and @TWILIGHT-OP

What do all of you think of this thread?

I agree with it. Only thing I wanted is the justification to be a bit more brief. I’ve also noted a small error in grammar from the one in the OP

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

I am also fine with it.