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Goku and Piccolo (Saiyan Saga) vs Madara
- Thread starter SaiyanNoSeiya
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- goku madara uchiha piccolo
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IMO team 1 would win
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Change it to beginning of dbz and make it 1v1 to make it an actual fair fight.
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1v1 Yes against piccolo, with high difficulty. No against Goku, although he would put up a good fight.
2v1 Not a chance.
2v1 Not a chance.
Is this Piccolo, and Goku had the time of the Raditz fight? Or after their training for the Saiyans? Because even the first would wreck Madara's shit......
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Madara has comparable speed to BoZ Piccolo and Goku: they don't get ridiculous speed until after the Saiyans show up. Also the goudama takes care of the durability problem he'd face and considering he's more powerful than EoS Naruto(who's moon level) that gives him comparable DC by scaling: of course not more than the Z character but enough for them to not just ignore it. Also neither of these characters have any defense against IT. Though they might edge out a win together.
I'm assuming this is beginning of Z in the infro above BTW.
I'm assuming this is beginning of Z in the infro above BTW.
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Madara can't beat both at once. He can arguably beat either individually if we're talking about Raditz fight versions.
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He can only win through his superior hax though, and despite that, he could likely only beat one of them. Infinite Tsukuyomi is like any other genjutsu, and requires the opponent to have a chakra system to have effect. UNLESS verse equalization is on, then it's fair game.
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Well Kaguya put everyone under Infinite Tsukuyomi before they had chakra, but I don't think he'd even use that in character for most fights.Sheoth said:
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"and requires the opponent to have a chakra system to have effect. UNLESS verse equalization is on, then it's fair game."
Whenever Madara activated the IT it was shown that two cats had the Rinnegan, indicating that they were in the Genjutsu. Pretty sure the cats don't have a chakra system. ,
These two cats have a Rinnegan from Madara's IT.
Whenever Madara activated the IT it was shown that two cats had the Rinnegan, indicating that they were in the Genjutsu. Pretty sure the cats don't have a chakra system. ,
These two cats have a Rinnegan from Madara's IT.
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IT works on everyone/everything apparently, like Valar Melkor said people were affected before they had Chakra.SwordSlayer99 said:"and requires the opponent to have a chakra system to have effect. UNLESS verse equalization is on, then it's fair game." Whenever Madara activated the IT it was shown that two cats had the Rinnegan, indicating that they were in the Genjutsu. Pretty sure the cats don't have a chakra system. ,
These two cats have a Rinnegan from Madara's IT.
Of course if they are quick enough to see what is happening they could always bust the moon, since Piccolo seems to have no problem with it.
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They solo the verse on their owns
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Madara
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loses
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Goku and Piccolo, pretty easily.
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Madara was blitzed by 8th gate guy and almost died, Goku and Piccolo can both blitz and kill him in nanoseconds
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I don't think the Gudodama will help that much...or at all really. Gudodamas are similar to Dust Release (they literally described its power using dust release as an example), really destructive by naruto stardards...not so much otherwise. Hell, we've even seen Naruto's Gudodama have noticable trouble making its way through the ice they were trapped in, it took Sasuke's amateratsu to actually get them out before Kaguya molested them.
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The Goudama would let Madara hurt Goku/Piccolo despite the team having higher durability as far as scaling is concerned. Also beginning of Z Goku/Piccolo aren't that fast...least not fast enough to pose significant problems to Madara with speed alone. Then again their edge in DC should tip the scale in the teams favors. Even with that Madara could still beat the Raditz fight versions of the characters 1 on 1: with a successful IT he could beat both but that may be pushing Madara's chances.
If this is the Nappa fight versions of the characters, then Goku stomps.
If this is the Nappa fight versions of the characters, then Goku stomps.
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Wait how fast are team 1 anyways
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Saiyan Saga is Massively Hypersonic+ (High quadruple digits), Sub-Relativistic in the Frieza Saga, Relativistic in the Android Saga and Goku is Relativistic+ in the Buu Saga.
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goku and piccolo win this one.
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High quadruple digits .......Madara stands no chance against a single one
Dude..I think The berter thing os stop that debates...dbz stomps
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Vegeta destroys Madara with telekinesis. Madara has no resistance to TK, has he? Vegeta blew up Cui and Saibamen with TK
Vegeta doesn't need to destroy a continent, TK is more than enough
Vegeta destroys Cui with telekinesis
Vegeta destroys Saibaman with telekinesis
Vegeta doesn't need to destroy a continent, TK is more than enough
Vegeta destroys Cui with telekinesis
Vegeta destroys Saibaman with telekinesis
The name of The attack os dirty fireworks
