Goku's skill

[LuffyRuffy46307]

So, Goku had his body atomised by the Genki-Dama right here in this part, showing his body disappearing



It has been confirmed that Goku was blown up by the Genki-Dama right here 1:25



Right here it shows Goku back to life with his body perfectly restored



What ability would that give Goku?

 

[SwordLegendz01]

Honestly, there are so many things that need to be examined here—whether it’s actually an achievement for Goku or just a dramatic scene TOEI gave us for the debut of Ultra Instinct.

1. No one could sense Goku’s presence at that moment, whether in SSB or in his base form. Even if he had reverted to his base form, the other fighters should’ve been able to sense him.
2. Even the gods had no idea where Goku was at the time. If he were still in his SSB state, the Grand Priest, Zeno, and even the Gods of Destruction/Kaioshin should’ve been able to sense his presence.
3. Comparing Goku disappearing after the direct hit from the Spirit Bomb to Android 17 blowing himself up—Zeno wasn’t shown eliminating Android 17 (by darkening his image on the GodPad) the way he seemed ready to do for Goku, as if they knew Android 17 was still alive.
4. Goku’s body was completely missing from the crater caused by the Spirit Bomb’s explosion, yet suddenly he appears in Ultra Instinct -Sign- form, and his body looks like it’s “glitching,” as if something had happened to him.
5. The Spirit Bomb has been shown to destroy Kid Buu’s body and even Fusion Zamasu. Even when Fusion Zamasu’s body was split apart, it still created an explosive effect that destroyed his physical form.
6. Maybe it was just a dramatic moment TOEI created, and Whis did explain that Goku absorbed the Spirit Bomb—but what if his body was actually vaporized and then regenerated by absorbing the surrounding energy (the Spirit Bomb)?

I don’t know, maybe I’m just rambling.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Honestly, there are so many things that need to be examined here—whether it’s actually an achievement for Goku or just a dramatic scene TOEI gave us for the debut of Ultra Instinct.

1. No one could sense Goku’s presence at that moment, whether in SSB or in his base form. Even if he had reverted to his base form, the other fighters should’ve been able to sense him.
2. Even the gods had no idea where Goku was at the time. If he were still in his SSB state, the Grand Priest, Zeno, and even the Gods of Destruction/Kaioshin should’ve been able to sense his presence.
3. Comparing Goku disappearing after the direct hit from the Spirit Bomb to Android 17 blowing himself up—Zeno wasn’t shown eliminating Android 17 (by darkening his image on the GodPad) the way he seemed ready to do for Goku, as if they knew Android 17 was still alive.
4. Goku’s body was completely missing from the crater caused by the Spirit Bomb’s explosion, yet suddenly he appears in Ultra Instinct -Sign- form, and his body looks like it’s “glitching,” as if something had happened to him.
5. The Spirit Bomb has been shown to destroy Kid Buu’s body and even Fusion Zamasu. Even when Fusion Zamasu’s body was split apart, it still created an explosive effect that destroyed his physical form.
6. Maybe it was just a dramatic moment TOEI created, and Whis did explain that Goku absorbed the Spirit Bomb—but what if his body was actually vaporized and then regenerated by absorbing the surrounding energy (the Spirit Bomb)?

I don’t know, maybe I’m just rambling.

That sounds very good to me.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

If he was atomized, and generated, that would be "High" regeneration. But I do not think we can really assumed that, it was kind of weird. They sensed his energy dropping as if he died, and the explosion was dropping views, but it was later revealed his UIS form. UI is a Ki that isn't typically sensed per say except for Angels. We do not know if the Spirit Bomb actually destroyed his body but he was simply hiding from everyone's senses until he came back to his unleash his Ultra Instinct; but the latter is more likely overall.

 

[SwordLegendz01]

Honestly, I just rewatched the scene, Beerus seemed to say "he's coming", so it means Beerus could only guess Goku's appearance after feeling Goku's presence where it was also shown that his energy made WoV shake, so where was Goku at that time? Because he suddenly appeared in the middle of a crater where even at that time his body was not there at all

 

[Rutæhh]

could be that his tanks emptied out completely then he absorbed the ki of the spirit bomb thus allowing beerus to sense him

 

[ProudLearner]

This is just Supernatural Willpower.

 

[KaramcaS]

There is no physical body; even high-ranking gods like Zeno and the Grand Priest cannot feel anything, and then he return from nowhere with a physical body.

If we consider that as Regeneration

That would be higher than "high" because Highly Gods can sense SOUL, but none of them was able to do it. So His soul also could be gone.

Mid-Godly Regeneration would be interesting
"The ability to regenerate from the complete erasure of one's body, mind, and soul."

 

[RedReaper616]

I
Don't
Know
Why we're trying to say Goku didn't have a body if we have a verbatim statement he was just buried underground.

 

[Chariot190]

Didn't we just have this thread or have I been hitting the bottle a bit to much lately

Like I swear to god we JUST had this thread

 

[RedReaper616]

Didn't we just have this thread or have I been hitting the bottle a bit to much lately

Like I swear to god we JUST had this thread

This is the original thread. You're talking about SwordLegend's Thread, that came out Friday.

 

[TyranoDoom30]

The effect of his body getting "destroyed" is likely just dramatization of the Genkidama's light and explosion engulfing him. We are also shown that the UI light comes out from the underground, heavily implying he was also buried there. Additionally, no Saiyan ever had abilities like this or it's even implied before or after (incluiding official material) that Goku can and regenerated his body

 

[Chariot190]

Why are we like ignoring how later in the ep, the scene is replayed again, but it continues on past the "engulf" and shows Blue Goku change to UI in real time within the spirit bomb, as in, ya know, his ass wasn't dusted?

 

[Faridw]

In my opinion, it can obtain low godly regeneration, which the old Kaioshin said might cause his body to disappear, and it is also supported by the spirit bomb that can completely erase Kid Buu's body in the Kid Buu arc.

 

[Faridw]

So, for me the opinion of swordLegend looks good

 

[Chariot190]

In my opinion, it can obtain low godly regeneration, which the old Kaioshin said might cause his body to disappear, and it is also supported by the spirit bomb that can completely erase Kid Buu's body in the Kid Buu arc.

The Spirit Bomb destroying Kid Buu, in because he was overpowered, that's just how ki works. And also cherry picking, what about the fact the Spirit Bomb didn't do that to Vegeta? Or hell Jiren in that exact same scene?

If's and could's don't matter if we straight up know it didn't happen, this isn't a debate to be had.

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

Why are we like ignoring how later in the ep, the scene is replayed again, but it continues on past the "engulf" and shows Blue Goku change to UI in real time within the spirit bomb, as in, ya know, his ass wasn't dusted?

Because a true Dragon Ball fan shall not watch the show

 

[KaramcaS]

If he were buried in the ground, all of the angels would feel him

 

[Chariot190]

If he were buried in the ground, all of the angels would feel him

Based on what exactly? Does Whis or anyone have any feat of sensing a tapped out basically 0 ki dude with a billion enormous PLS in the vicinity?

Also, this doesn't change the fact it still didn't happen, you can call it dumb or stupid or should've, would've, but that doesn't magically mean he was vaped when he explicitly wasn't.

 

[KaramcaS]

Dude has Enhanced Senses & Cosmic Awareness

 

[Chariot190]

Dude has Enhanced Senses & Cosmic Awareness

Yes. And?
Having either doesn't make you omniscient, Angels have had some things go unnoticed before so that cosmic awareness ain't exactly the greatest, and both are ultimately tied to the feats they have with them, and last I checked nobody in DB has a comparable feat, in fact there's actually quite a few anti-feat where characters actively try to look for someone but they're so tapped out they can't sense them at all and assume dead when they're not, or far larger PLs in the vicinity basically make sensing much smaller ones nigh impossible.
This situation acts as a 2-in-1 combo, so, ignoring how ultimately whether or not they can sense him doesn't change the fact it didn't happen, even if you wanted to argue it, it's still well within reason.

 

[CBslayeR]

It's very obvious he just barely survived and people couldn't sense him because of how close to death he was


Goku having equal regeneration to ******* Zamasu is such a serious lack of media comprehension that I genuinely think you people might have a worm in your brain mining you for crypto