Golden Superman vs Golden Sonic

[Stalker_Maggot]

Superman Prime (One Million) vs Sonic the Hedgehog (Game Character)

Both are 4-A

Speed is equalized

Both have there full arsenal

Superman Prime (One Million):

Sonic the Hedgehog (Game Character):

Inconclusive:

 

[Ionliosite]

I was actually afraid this was going to be Archie Sonic vs SP1M.

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

I mean, Archie Sonic would flat out one shot so

 

[Ionliosite]

So, uh, what does Sonic scale to?

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Reppuzan/Lina_Shields_-_Death_Egg_Blaster_Revisited

 

[Ionliosite]

So like 4 times above baseline? That means he has the AP adventage. What does he lead with?

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

Not sure

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

Bump

 

[ShakeResounding]

The high-end is accepted iirc (which unfortunately isn't in the comments and I forgot who said it), meaning he's actually 22x above baseline.

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

I mean, Superman is half way into Galaxy level according to this so

 

[MYHERO]

If that's the case I think Superman one shots, but I get this dreaded feeling like either User or Shadow is gonna come and debunk me on that.

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

Uh, should I bloodlust Sonic then so he will spam haxs then?

 

[MYHERO]

Sure. Superman resists a lot of shit anyways, so I don't think it will be a haxstomp when bloodlusted.

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

Alrighty. Sonic is bloodlusted then

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

Bump

 

[PapiSavitar5025]

Superman should honestly be Galaxy Level, I've tried making a CRT but no one's responded on it.

 

[Theuser789]

If that's the case I think Superman one shots, but I get this dreaded feeling like either User or Shadow is gonna come and debunk me on that.

According to the invulnerability page Sonic should tank any attack outside of low 2-C and above but no one follows it in versus threads

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

Bump

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

bump

 

[Ionliosite]

So, what now?

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

Well, Superman has the stat edge and resists a lot of Sonic's haxs so

 

[ShakeResounding]

At the same time Sonic is bloodlusted and has all his optional equipment.

He can resurrect nigh-indefinitely due to Shahra's Ring and continuously getting Soul Energy and a Chao alongside items allowing him to do so, screws with probability to either increase the chances he lands a hit and lowers the chances he gets hit, has a chance to instantly one-shot him with each attack he deals, has several stacks of damage reduction through a multitude of sources, and has Void Manipulation to deal with him (which, as far as I see, is the one thing Superman doesn't resist from Sonic's Wisp arsenal).

I'm pretty sure this is a mismatch. Without his optional equipment and in character, Sonic gets one-shot gg. But with equipment and bloodlusted, I don't think Superman has a way of keeping him down before Sonic takes him out. (And I've co stantly been told that EE<Void Manip due to only being one aspect of it, so I'm pretty sure Supes doesn't resist it well enough)

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

Uh

1. Superman doesn't need to kill Sonic, just incap him, which can do since he has the stat edge

2. Has Sonic even used void manip before?

 

[ShakeResounding]

Relies on any of his attacks landing due to Prob Manip.

Yes. It's extremely in-character due to the Wisps.

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

How good is his probability manip? If it doesn't lower Superman's attack chance stupidly low then he should be able to hit him

And Sonic's void manip might get removed so

 

[Theuser789]

First thing a OP shoudn't argue for a character, second Void Manipulation wasn't removed

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

Since when weren't you allowed to argue for a character? The only time when you aren't suppose to be arguing for a character is when you are showing bias, which I'm not

 

[Theuser789]

I don't think you can actively argue as if you are voting for a character, but fine

 

[ElixirBlue]

I argue on my threads to make sure my threads aren't stomps.

But anyway, Void Manipulation isn't getting removed.