Grand Priest & Other Stuff: Universe Survival Saga Reanalysis

[SwordLegendz01]

Honestly, I’ve been thinking about this continuously, and maybe this sounds reasonable even though some of this wasn’t accepted in previous threads. I want to bring it up again a little and draw a conclusion together with the main topic.

In the Anime, we never explicitly see, like in the Manga, that the Grand Priest nullifies the fighters’ resistances so they cannot resist the Grand Priest’s Gravity Manipulation. Well, hold on — we have characters like Goku and Vegeta, and maybe even Piccolo and Tenshinhan (King Kai’s Planet) as well, who have Gravity training far beyond the gravity of their birth planet.

Why am I bringing this up? It wouldn’t be fair if, in the anime, the Grand Priest only made the characters feel the same gravity as their birth planet without nullifying their resistance or adaptation abilities, because those 4 characters already have adaptation to gravity far higher than their birth planet, with Goku and Vegeta (Earth & Planet Vegeta) being even higher than them, which would give them an advantage in battle.

Once again, we see here that Android 17 is completely unaffected by the 10x Earth gravity effect of King Kai's Planet which should be due to his physical capabilities, which should be at that level he has the same capabilities as Goku who is also unaffected.

Furthermore, Android 17 is shown being burdened by the Pretty Black Hole, which indicates that the Grand Priest truly negated the physical capabilities they possessed with the current level. Exhausted Goku is also shown gaining a new feat here; Resistance to the gravity of the Pretty Black Hole, which shows that Goku should also have an impressive feat from this situation. When compared here to Exhausted Goku, Android 17 should be able to operate at his full power indefinitely especially since he has an infinite energy reactor.

Conclusion:

• Goku should also get something here, either Resistance to Resistance Negation or Resistance to Gravity Manipulation <1 layer>, or whatever is most appropriate.
• The Grand Priest should have Resistance Negation in addition to Gravity Manipulation, because he must negate the fighters’ adaptation or resistance abilities in order to make things fair.

Agree: @Apotheosis69 @ChoursDropoff @UnoRebaixadO
Disagree:

 

[Apotheosis69]

I feel like Resistance to Resistance Negation is more accurate, as that stems from Grand Priest's power of nullifying the adaption inherently

 

[SwordLegendz01]

I feel like Resistance to Resistance Negation is more accurate, as that stems from Grand Priest's power of nullifying the adaption inherently

This makes sense

 

[ChoursDropoff]

I think the layer may make a bit more sense.

 

[ChoursDropoff]

But I can see an argument either way.

 

[SwordLegendz01]

But I can see an argument either way.

Thanks. Let's see how the staff gives their opinion on this

 

[UnoRebaixadO]

Both make sense.

 

[SwordLegendz01]

Both make sense.

Thank you

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Sounds a little weird, but I have no real contention.

 

[SwordLegendz01]

Sounds a little weird, but I have no real contention.

How about the Goku part, which part do you think makes at least a little more sense?

 

[MrTayman616]

• Goku should also get something here, either Resistance to Resistance Negation or Resistance to Gravity Manipulation <1 layer>, or whatever is most appropriate.

Why would he get something? He's still fully affected by the gravity of the attack completely nor he negates anything here.

 

[SwordLegendz01]

Why would he get something? He's still fully affected by the gravity of the attack completely nor he negates anything here.

Didn't you see imgur album at all? Look at how his Kamehameha just went through the Pretty Black Hole. Why is that considered his SSJB form? Because he tried to stand on his base and resist the gravitational pull, he still felt the pressure, but then he transformed into SSJB.

Initially, the Kamehameha was only affected by the Pretty Black Hole's gravitational force, just as Android 18's Ki Blast was shown to bend towards the point of gravitational pull. Even with the statement that light cannot escape it and Instant Transmission cannot escape it, Goku's Kamehameha ignored the effect even after Goku had penetrated the Pretty Black Hole long enough for the gravitational pull to no longer affect his Kamehameha.

 

[MrTayman616]

Didn't you see his imgur album at all? Look at how his Kamehameha just went through the Pretty Black Hole. Why is that considered his SSJB form? Because he tried to stand on his base and resist the gravitational pull, he still felt the pressure, but then he transformed into SSJB.

SSJB is stronger than his normal form, so it's normal for him to move better against a higher gravitational force. (Like how Trunks moves better in Bulma's machine after using SSJ)

Initially, the Kamehameha was only affected by the Pretty Black Hole's gravitational force, just as Android 18's Ki Blast was shown to bend towards the point of gravitational pull. Even with the statement that light cannot escape it and Instant Transmission cannot escape it, Goku's Kamehameha ignored the effect even after Goku had penetrated the Pretty Black Hole long enough for the gravitational pull to no longer affect his Kamehameha.

Yes. Kamehameha was obviously getting affected, it was just capable of overpowering the "pretty black hole".

"Pretty black hole" doesn't create some rule or law that you cannot escape no matter what, just a very high gravitational force.

This doesn't mean "Pretty Black hole" cannot be overpowered by any attack inside. Kamehameha from SSJB Goku was stronger, and capable of overpowering it. It doesn't grant resistance or anything.

Then, did you read the argument that it's unfair that the Grand Priest only made them feel the same gravity without negating any adaptation or resistance?

Why this matters, like at all? Grand Priest can have a very good gravity manipulation.

Their current resistance to Gravity manipulation is simply based on the force of gravity they stand up against, this doesn't mean any layered resistance or negation.

For example, just because i can resist 10x gravity, doesn't mean someone changing my gravity gives them resistance negation. The abilities are different in nature and effect.

 

[MrTayman616]

And it's been accepted, I just proposed a change.

Which one? (I'm not saying you can't propose a change or anything :d)

 

[SwordLegendz01]

SSJB is stronger than his normal form, so it's normal for him to move better against a higher gravitational force. (Like how Trunks moves better in Bulma's machine after using SSJ)

Yes. Kamehameha was obviously getting affected, it was just capable of overpowering the "pretty black hole".

"Pretty black hole" doesn't create some rule or law that you cannot escape no matter what, just a very high gravitational force.

This doesn't mean "Pretty Black hole" cannot be overpowered by any attack inside. Kamehameha from SSJB Goku was stronger, and capable of overpowering it. It doesn't grant resistance or anything.

No one said he made the rules to escape. Look at how Instant Transmission, even an ability that doesn't require physical movement, couldn't escape from there. How do you explain that? Yes, you're right about Trunks transforming into SSJ, but that involves lifting his body, not something like him making a Kamehameha move straight up. And I won't dwell on this at length because it's already been accepted here.

Why this matters, like at all? Grand Priest can have a very good gravity manipulation.

Their current resistance to Gravity manipulation is simply based on the force of gravity they stand up against, this doesn't mean any layered resistance or negation.

For example, just because i can resist 10x gravity, doesn't mean someone changing my gravity gives them resistance negation. The abilities are different in nature and effect

I'll address this, okay, how did the Grand Priest just make them feel the gravity of their birth planet? That's unfair, without removing or negating any resistances or adaptation they have. Seeing how Android 17 remained affected by the Pretty Black Hole shows that the Grand Priest actually did something to their physical capabilities. Okay, this also touches on SSJ Trunks. We'll assume Exhausted Goku = Full Power Android 17? which should have been able to lift himself, not just Goku.

 

[Nonynho]

Goku should also get something here, either Resistance to Resistance Negation or Resistance to Gravity Manipulation <1 layer>, or whatever is most appropriate.

SSB* should get it, as Goku in base was no match for the ability
i'm more favorable of "Limited Resistance to Gravity Manip<1 layer>" as SSB was still getting difficulties, although slight, yeah...
but the possibility of the literal 8.000.000x buff to LS being a factor here is no joke

 

[Nullflowerblush]

It's literally the only factor.

 

[MrTayman616]

No one said he made the rules to escape. Look at how Instant Transmission, even an ability that doesn't require physical movement, couldn't escape from there. How do you explain that? Yes, you're right about Trunks transforming into SSJ, but that involves lifting his body, not something like him making a Kamehameha move straight up. And I won't dwell on this at length because it's already been accepted here.

Instant transmission not being able to get out has no explanation right now. Kamehameha just destroyed the "Pretty Black Hole".

How are these even comparable nor connect to each other in any way?

I'll address this, okay, how did the Grand Priest just make them feel the gravity of their birth planet? That's unfair, without removing or negating any resistances or adaptation they have. Seeing how Android 17 remained affected by the Pretty Black Hole shows that the Grand Priest actually did something to their physical capabilities. Okay, this also touches on SSJ Trunks. We'll assume Exhausted Goku = Full Power Android 17? which should have been able to lift himself, not just Goku.

No. This claim would only work if we were to regard all types of gravity manipulation as the same.

Why would android 17 being affected by the pretty black hole even matter at all?

 

[SwordLegendz01]

How are these even comparable nor connect to each other in any way?

"Even light can't escape" and Instant Transmission are just supporting evidence of how Pretty Black Holes work, back to the main topic, after all spending time on something that has already been discussed. The main topic is below

No. This claim would only work if we were to regard all types of gravity manipulation as the same.

Why would android 17 being affected by the pretty black hole even matter at all?

It states that each "feels the same gravity as their birth planet," not that they "feel the same gravity."

Why does that matter? How can you ignore Android 17's lifting power or whatever it is? He's even shown to be able to overcome the gravity of King Kai's planet without being affected at all, just like Goku. From this, we assume his lifting power is roughly the same.

So, why is this so important? Look at how an exhausted Goku lifts himself, compared to Android 17 at his current level, who has unlimited energy and can operate at full power indefinitely.

 

[MrTayman616]

"Even light can't escape" and Instant Transmission are just supporting evidence of how Pretty Black Holes work, back to the main topic, after all spending time on something that has already been discussed. The main topic is below

The first one, gravitational force.

Second one, unknown. This can support countless thing, from negating teleportation to law manipulation.

It states that each "feels the same gravity as their birth planet," not that they "feel the same gravity."

Why does that matter? How can you ignore Android 17's lifting power or whatever it is? He's even shown to be able to overcome the gravity of King Kai's planet without being affected at all, just like Goku. From this, we assume his lifting power is roughly the same.

So, why is this so important? Look at how an exhausted Goku lifts himself, compared to Android 17 at his current level, who has unlimited energy and can operate at full power indefinitely.

So what? That just means they can handle 10x gravity. They can handle 100x gravity as well, even more. This is like comparing two character who can destroy a wall, while both scale higher.

SSJB Goku there is just strong enough to stand there and use his attack.

 

[Nonynho]

ngl as i though about the scaling chain, it's becoming really hard not to think that Goku was able to use his kamehameha because of how many multipliers stack over base by becoming SSB

 

[SwordLegendz01]

SSJB Goku there is just strong enough to stand there and use his attack.

???

Did you just see SSJB just standing? Didn't you see Base Goku trying to stand before going SSJB? It's also worth noting that he was exhausted after defeating Kefla.

 

[Nonynho]

???

Did you just see SSJB just standing? Didn't you see Base Goku trying to stand before going SSJB? It's also worth noting that he was exhausted after defeating Kefla.

SSG is by our scaling chain is 160.000x base and SSB is 50x that, totaling 8.000.000x base
he was still having a bit of issue, but becoming eight million times stronger surely helps dealing against something heavy

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Why am I bringing this up? It wouldn’t be fair if, in the anime, the Grand Priest only made the characters feel the same gravity as their birth planet without nullifying their resistance or adaptation abilities, because those 4 characters already have adaptation to gravity far higher than their birth planet, with Goku and Vegeta (Earth & Planet Vegeta) being even higher than them, which would give them an advantage in battle.

The Grand Priest granted each fighter the gravity of their homeworld so as to ensure they weren't inherently disadvantaged by the environment of the World of Void, not so that they would be on a theoretical even playing field. If the goal was to even the playing field for every fighter, all of their stats would have been equalized, but everybody retained their unique abilities and varied level of strength and weaknesses. Like, Jiren is literally more powerful than a God of Destruction, and Botamo can nullify all damage by transferring it into a pocket dimension; the Grand Priest did not give a shit about whether or not one fighter had an advantage over another.

 

[SwordLegendz01]

SSG is by our scaling chain is 160.000x base and SSB is 50x that, totaling 8.000.000x base
he was still having a bit of issue, but becoming eight million times stronger surely helps dealing against something heavy

I don't just think from Goku's side, just look at Android 17. Considering he has "infinite energy" and with the scans that say Android 17 can use "his power at full power indefinitely", and he is also a human who is strengthened with his modified body, he has AD which makes him stronger even in a not too distant time he can match SSJB pre-TOP even though there are statements that say Goku uses SSJB to encourage the fighters, but look at the condition of "exhausted Goku"

 

[MrTayman616]

Did you just see SSJB just standing? Didn't you see Base Goku trying to stand before going SSJB? It's also worth noting that he was exhausted after defeating Kefla.

And? This neither gives Goku negation or layered resistance regardless.

At most, he can handle gravity better than Android 17.

 

[SwordLegendz01]

The Grand Priest granted each fighter the gravity of their homeworld so as to ensure they weren't inherently disadvantaged by the environment of the World of Void, not so that they would be on a theoretical even playing field. If the goal was to even the playing field for every fighter, all of their stats would have been equalized, but everybody retained their unique abilities and varied level of strength and weaknesses. Like, Jiren is literally more powerful than a God of Destruction, and Botamo can nullify all damage by transferring it into a pocket dimension; the Grand Priest did not give a shit about whether or not one fighter had an advantage over another.

"fairness"

 

[SwordLegendz01]

At most, he can handle gravity better than Android 17.

Weren't you the one who brought up the SSJ Trunks thing? We know he was able to overcome it with his transformation. So, if a Exhausted Base Goku was able to overcome the effects of gravity better than a full-powered Android 17, he would have a much better chance if he considered things like this instead of just saying "Goku is better."

 

[Nonynho]

I don't just think from Goku's side, just look at Android 17. Considering he has "infinite energy" and with the scans that say Android 17 can use "his power at full power indefinitely", and he is also a human who is strengthened with his modified body, he has AD which makes him stronger even in a not too distant time he can match SSJB pre-TOP even though there are statements that say Goku uses SSJB to encourage the fighters, but look at the condition of "exhausted Goku"

then it's an anti-feat for 17's LS, or either Brianne and those annoying mfs just can exert more LS than his full power with this attack
17's LS is not regarded as particularly impressive or something alike, nor is 18's and Goku was tired and at his base, then he turns into almost the most poweful transformation he can possibly attain and can deal with it. simple.

 

[SwordLegendz01]

then it's an anti-feat for 17's LS, or either Brianne and those annoying mfs just can exert more LS than his full power with this attack
17's LS is not regarded as particularly impressive or something alike, nor is 18's and Goku was tired and at his base, then he turns into almost the most poweful transformation he can possibly attain and can deal with it. simple.

Seeing how AD Android 17 is not something simple, after all Androids can grow stronger, here we are discussing DBS Anime even when fighting SSJB he doesn't feel pressured at all. After all Android 17 can operate at full power level indefinitely. He has more chances to try to stand up than Base Goku who is exhausted before going further with SSJB, and we have SSJB Goku vs Android 17 fight, although we should know in TOP Goku is growing rapidly

 

[Nullflowerblush]

"fairness"

Yes, that's what I said.

 

[SwordLegendz01]

Yes, that's what I said.

"Also, for fairness, each warrior will feel the same gravity as their birth planet"
It's not about other abilities, it's to make sure the fight is fair, like Vegeta and Pui Pui's condition.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

"Also, for fairness, each warrior will feel the same gravity as their birth planet"
It's not about other abilities, it's to make sure the fight is fair, like Vegeta and Pui Pui's condition.

Yes, again, by making sure no one fighter is disadvantaged by the natural conditions of the World of Void and the tournament stage. Why would "fairness" extend only to how much gravity each fighter felt and not include stats or technique if "fairness" really referred to how easy or difficult it was for one to defeat another?

Also, Babidi moved Pui Pui's battle to Planet Zoon because he assumed the increased gravity would place Vegeta at an inherent disadvantage when compared to Pui Pui. The Grand Priest stimulated the gravity of every fighter's homeworld so that they could move as naturally and uninhibited as they would in their natural environments, not so that they could fight everybody else on an equal level.

The goal was not equality, it was equity.

 

[SwordLegendz01]

Yes, again, by making sure no one fighter is disadvantaged by the natural conditions of the World of Void and the tournament stage. Why would "fairness" extend only to how much gravity each fighter felt and not include stats or technique if "fairness" really referred to how easy or difficult it was for one to defeat another?

Also, Babidi moved Pui Pui's battle to Planet Zoon because he assumed the increased gravity would place Vegeta at an inherent disadvantage when compared to Pui Pui. The Grand Priest stimulated the gravity of every fighter's homeworld so that they could move as naturally and uninhibited as they would in their natural environments, not so that they could fight everybody else on an equal level.

The goal was not equality, it was equity.

Yeah, after all, didn't I also talk about "fairness/equity" not "equality"? It's not fair that the Grand Priest didn't disappear due to higher resistance or adaptation due to "their birth planet's gravity"?

Yes, it's true that it's about moving freely but you're ignoring their physical capabilities/resistance/adaptability which allows them to move more freely than fighters who only feel "their birth planet's gravity" and we see a very stressed Android 17 compared to an exhausted Base Goku

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Yes, it's true that it's about moving freely but you're ignoring their physical capabilities/resistance/adaptability which allows them to move more freely than fighters who only feel "their birth planet's gravity"

And? Whether or not A can move around their native gravity more freely than B can is completely irrelevant because, again, the conditions of the tournament are not equal, they are equitable. Nobody is completely even with anybody else, especially not the MVPs or even top-ranking players of the tournament. Neither the Grand Priest or Zen-Oh cared about whether or not any of the Z-Fighters had grown strong enough to withstand 1,000G or whatever and how they compared to warriors who could only withstand their native 1G or 10G or 0.01G; the only factor that mattered was whether or not any fighter was disadvantaged by the battlefield itself, which simulating their native gravity solved.

Again, if the Grand Priest cared about that, I don't see why he'd allow Jiren to compete in the tournament freely.

and we see a very stressed Android 17 compared to an exhausted Base Goku

What are you even trying to argue exactly? Android 17 can withstand 10G, and Goku can withstand 10G, but they are inside a mass of gravity evidently several dozens of times stronger than 10G or even 300G for that matter. This is a nothing argument you're making.

 

[SwordLegendz01]

And? Whether or not A can move around their native gravity more freely than B can is completely irrelevant because, again, the conditions of the tournament are not equal, they are equitable. Nobody is completely even with anybody else, especially not the MVPs or even top-ranking players of the tournament. Neither the Grand Priest or Zen-Oh cared about whether or not any of the Z-Fighters had grown strong enough to withstand 1,000G or whatever and how they compared to warriors who could only withstand their native 1G or 10G or 0.01G; the only factor that mattered was whether or not any fighter was disadvantaged by the battlefield itself, which simulating their native gravity solved.

Again, if the Grand Priest cared about that, I don't see why he'd allow Jiren to compete in the tournament freely.

What do you mean? We see the Grand Priest cares about that. Look at how he removed the ability to fly, which makes them unable to move freely, including not only making them feel the same gravity as their home planet, but also how the Grand Priest cares about how the fighters can move more freely if they're used to it, even more so than other characters who also feel the same gravity as their home planet.

What are you even trying to argue exactly? Android 17 can withstand 10G, and Goku can withstand 10G, but they are inside a mass of gravity evidently several dozens of times stronger than 10G or even 300G for that matter. This is a nothing argument you're making.

What nothing argument? We know we've been discussing physical capabilities, about characters who can lift things by becoming stronger. We don't assume Android 17 has resistance or adaptation because he's not affected at all by 10x Earth's gravity, but because at his current level he should be able to. Furthermore, we know "Androids" can operate at full power indefinitely and don't experience fatigue unless their energy is completely depleted. The exception is Android 17, who has "infinite energy reactors." Android 17 should have a better chance of resisting Pretty Black Hole's gravity and should have no more difficulty standing than an exhausted Base Goku. Even though we know they're both developed, Android 17 isn't weaker than Base Goku, especially when exhausted.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Look at how he removed the ability to fly, which makes them unable to move freely

Flight techniques are nullified during the tournament because the only way to defeat an opponent is by ringing them out, Whis explains. If anybody could fly, then they could theoretically endlessly avoid a ring-out, which defeats the purpose of the ring-outs to begin with. Characters with wings are only allowed to fly because said flying abilities are natural and cannot be neutralized without directly nullifying their anatomy. However, they are allowed to perform superhuman acrobatics freely, and jump around as high as they possibly can, and even propel themselves using Ki Blasts (and Meditation, I guess); so they are allowed to maneuver completely freely, sans the singular mobility restriction required to enable the rules of the tournament itself.

We don't assume Android 17 has resistance or adaptation because he's not affected at all by 10x Earth's gravity, but because at his current level he should be able to.

Are you, by any chance, referring to Lifting Strength? Evidently, neither he, 18, or Goku possess a Resistance to Gravity Manipulation because they are completely susceptible to the effects of the Pretty Black Hole, which are Gravity Manipulation; if they can be affected by a mass of gravity and have their body weight increased, then they do not have a Resistance to Gravity Manipulation, even if they can function under said conditions. Withstanding increased gravity is not an Resistance, nor does such a feat require Adaptation; simply generating an upwards force great enough to counter said increased gravity is a feat of Lifting Strength.

Android 17 should have a better chance of resisting Pretty Black Hole's gravity and should have no more difficulty standing than an exhausted Base Goku.

Unless, say, Goku possessed greater Lifting Strength than 17? Even if 17 possesses power comparable to Super Saiyan Blue Goku from, like, thirty episodes prior, Goku can simply have more Lifting Strength, even in his base form—even completely disregarding how resilient Goku is, both due to his inherent superhuman strength and due to his indomitable willpower. Even ignoring how the argument itself is fundamentally flawed, in order to even begin justifying your claims, you have to first prove 17 has superior Lifting Strength to Goku. You cannot write a thread based purely off of baseless, circular reasoning.

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

Why am I bringing this up? It wouldn’t be fair if, in the anime, the Grand Priest only made the characters feel the same gravity as their birth planet

Uh... are we basing the entire argument of "Grand Priest should've done this, otherwise it wouldn't be fair"? I don't think this is solid nor warrants even a possibly.

without nullifying their resistance or adaptation abilities, because those 4 characters already have adaptation to gravity far higher than their birth planet, with Goku and Vegeta (Earth & Planet Vegeta) being even higher than them, which would give them an advantage in battle.

First of all, just a side note: Why is Goku's birth planet considered to be Earth, when he was born in Planet Vegeta but transferred to Earth?

From what I understand, Grand Priest most likely made each character to feel the same gravity they had in their Birth Planet so there are no disadvantages (for example, a character who is accustomated battling in a 1g enviroment, suddenly having to battle in a 10g enviroment and as such having their capabilities mermated).

And why would, anyway, being capable of withstanding greater gravities give them unfair advantages in battle? They trained to withstand greater gravities. Is there any statement to support that Grand Priest considers people having trained to support greater weights unfair?

And now that we're at it. Why would Grand Priest even know Saiyans have trained to withstand greater gravities than their home planet?

Once again, we see here that Android 17 is completely unaffected by the 10x Earth gravity effect of King Kai's Planet which should be due to his physical capabilities, which should be at that level he has the same capabilities as Goku who is also unaffected.

Furthermore, Android 17 is shown being burdened by the Pretty Black Hole, which indicates that the Grand Priest truly negated the physical capabilities they possessed with the current level.

How does Android 17 being burdened by Pretty Black Hole show that Grand Priest has some kind of negation ability, instead of showing that Pretty Black Hole, as a Black Hole, has a greater gravity than merely 10x Earth's gravity (specially given they are inside it)?

Resistance is not immunity. And with things such as temperature, gravity or similar, you can indeed bypass it without necessarily layering. Such as how we don't asume a character that can resist your average fire manipulation can immediately resist the heat of the Sun, we do not asume a character who can resist 10x Earth's gravity can resist a Black Hole's gravity. Because situations aren't comparable at all.

Exhausted Goku is also shown gaining a new feat here; Resistance to the gravity of the Pretty Black Hole, which shows that Goku should also have an impressive feat from this situation. When compared here to Exhausted Goku, Android 17 should be able to operate at his full power indefinitely especially since he has an infinite energy reactor.

This seems just evidence that Goku Blue's Lifting Strength (and/or resistance to gravity manipulation, given we list that as an ability for some reason) is greater than Android 17's full power (not necessarily layered, as I've addressed before).

All in all, I'm seeing that the entire thread is based in 2 errors:

• Thinking Grand Priest should have done a certain thing because otherwise it'd be unfair. Without any support of Grand Priest actually doing it, instead of just claiming he should have (him saying he'd make every participant to have the same gravity they had in their home planet does not imply all claims you're making that Grand Priest supposedly did)
• Thinking that just because a character could resist a certain level of gravity, and couldn't resist other, way greater level of gravity (when has not shown any comparable level of resistance to said level on the first place, btw), then an external character "must've done something".

So, I disagree.

 

[ArcaneAbyss]

I don't agree with this, this seems like a huge reach, simulating the gravity of each person's hole doesn't stop people with gravimetric abilities from working

Anime GP power nulled their flight and made them each feel their home gravity, that's it

 

[Vietthai96]

Closing due to OP request