This just means he saw him as someone close. Unless Niffty <= FP Alastor?
I'm like 99% sure alastor was referring to influence on hell since this was his peak. Vox directly asked alastor to join him because vox was the brains and alastor was the brawns in his eyes, he says that himself
I doubt it, it is noted during that scene that the deal was that it'd be Vox's influence that'd be his bargaining chip there. So there'd be no reason for him to offer it to Alastor if there was such a gap that Alastor was only just considering he might reach his level.
We don't know why Alastor has an affinity to Nifty. Vox on the other hand is pretty clear that it was the potential aspect, all of Alastor's respect and tolerance went out the window the moment Vox asked for help. You can't exactly compare the two when Nifty hasn't been considered a legit powerhouse at all unlike Vox.
I dont know where this mentality is coming from. Theres nothing really pointing towards Vox being weaker than nerfed Alastor. Looking at the fight the most Al could do was toss Vox at a building with a suprise grab which didn't even do any noticeable damage to him. Vox is genuinely in the lead for most of the fight with the only times Alastor gets out of his hands being moments he's distracted (the shadow grab and backup showing up) outside of that Vox had the upper hand in the direct moments.
He doesn't even call him powerhouse. Also, we do know that Alastor hates anyone more powerful than him (see Lucifer), so he seemed to enjoy company rather than legimitely respect and fear Vox.
Ask Rosie.
He was losing on purpose, his plan was to ragebait, appear weaker and pretend that he lost to make the deal with Vox for whatever reason. It's like very damn obvious if you think about it.
Then why would vox ask for alastor to be the muscle in his grand scheme to take over hell then? Alastor saying this in reference to actual physical power is out of character for him considering the entire episode is him crashing out that he's relatively weak in the grand scheme of things.
Again, only seen the clips. Im aware Alastor is playing cards for some future benefit but wasn't aware of a statement from Rosie saying Vox is weaker. I was only operating from the actual fight itself
To be fair, weakened alastor prolly loses to current vox. He didn't realise how big of a blow he's gotten from adam considering he seems genuinely surprised that his magic is malfunctioning.
.........so why even argue it if you haven't watched the episode?
He did try to 1v1 Vox when Nifty and Husk showed up and when we cut back we see Alastor pinned to the wall by Vox, so probs.
She didn't say Vox is weaker, she just said that Alastor is still strongest Sinner.
Aye, same with me, I only watched first two episodes + fight (and also have seen leaks a year ago or so). I also thought that Vox >>>> weakened Alastor at first but then analyzed Alastor's behavior and came to conclusion that he did this on purpose (why would he even randomly, openly 1v3 Vees, at least try to sneak attack or 1v1 them?). Especially given Rosie's statement.
Just watch the epsiode, if you need a site just PM me
Ye but physically alastor was always going to lose to vox in his current state, he's got a massive chest wound that causes him to cough blood every time he gets staggered. I'm talking in reference to their full abilities. Vox seems to be more of an active physically while alastor uses magic to overwhelm his opponent
Because I saw relevant sections and the profiles aren't likely to be touched much until the season ends and all context is given. My argument wasn't "oh yeah Vox totally equal to peak Alastor" it was "yeah, that statement Alasor made in the bar is pretty good supporting evidence for downscaling".
Then why would vox ask for alastor to be the muscle in his grand scheme to take over hell then? Alastor saying this in reference to actual physical power is out of character for him considering the entire episode is him crashing out that he's relatively weak in the grand scheme of things.
Thanks for the offer, @Mythic381 already helped me out with this. I'm just watching in chronological order, I watched Episode 2 just today, will finish a bit later.
Even though the context just denies this in the episode
Alastor and vox have different realms of influence on hell. Alastor is an overlord by circumstance. He himself doesn't influence hell like the other overlords, carmilla runs a weapons dealership, rosie runs cannibal town and a larger portion of the city etc, his only business is the radio show which he broadcasts his crimes for sh*ts and giggles. Vox however is a cult leader.
Bro is trying to shift the suffering to another person...
Yeah of course, I only pull out the real threats when it come to Lupin revisions/j
To be fair I do want to get around to doing Vox, but I genuinely could not care for the other two vees.
This is to say if you want Velvette or Valentino or both, get reworking em
Dont go pushing the freaky Moth on me, the TV and Doll Witch I'm fine with but I draw the line there LOL.
to be fair both the TV and the Doll Witch would almost certainly be into that
lmao I'm pretty sure I saw someone say they want to make a profile for Vox's shark, a few days or week ago.
After Alastor knocked bro into the building, it took him a great time to come back to the point he fought and knocked away both Valentino and Velvette before Vox came back.
I love helping the poor!
That's just unnecessary as hell, like we already have profiles for most Hellborns who most of them do not need a profile (Verosika, Barbie Wire and Sallie May) and Loopty Goopty also has a profile which... why???????
I put that idiot in the profile deletion page a while ago, is it still not gone?
Nope:
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