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Hot headed! Natsu vs Saber of Red
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I see, well I will leave it on inconclusive than for same reasons from before and also because Natsu can as well somewhat deal with her AP boost through rage power that gives him some boost and in a fight where his fire attacks are weaker than they should he will just get angrier.
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Do we even know what exactly FT DS magic does to dragons? like is it a straight ap boost vs dragons; do FT verse dragons have a passive ability like Seig's armour of Fafnir which reduces the damage they take and DS magic just nullifies it so DS's don't do bonus damage, they just don't get their damage reduced; or something similar.
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@Bepo
Dragons in Fairy Tail are resistant to all magic aside from their own, as Dragon Slaying magic is literally just teaching humans how to use a Dragon's abilities. Thus, while all other magic in the series basically bounces off, Dragon Slaying Magic can actually do damage.
However, this ability only goes so far, as none of the Dragon Slayers were able to lay a scratch on the dragons during Future Rogue's rampage.
Dragons in Fairy Tail are resistant to all magic aside from their own, as Dragon Slaying magic is literally just teaching humans how to use a Dragon's abilities. Thus, while all other magic in the series basically bounces off, Dragon Slaying Magic can actually do damage.
However, this ability only goes so far, as none of the Dragon Slayers were able to lay a scratch on the dragons during Future Rogue's rampage.
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Natsu also ate a huge amount of atlas flame's fire before attacking motherglare. A dragon literally made out of fire.Blanked said:
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Natsu also ate a huge amount of atlas flame's firebefore sttacking motherglare. A dragon literally made out of fire.
Natsu hurt mother glare before that. When he absorbed his flames he literraly one shotted her even thou atlas couldn't make a scratch.
And before he ate atlus's fire, MG was alright after that attack since she went on to make more babies. And I'm pretty sure Natsu has a full fight with future rogue before he tried to one shot MG.
Natsu hurt mother glare before that. When he absorbed his flames he literraly one shotted her even thou atlas couldn't make a scratch.
And before he ate atlus's fire, MG was alright after that attack since she went on to make more babies. And I'm pretty sure Natsu has a full fight with future rogue before he tried to one shot MG.
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Also where does it states that Mordred is part dragon? I don't see "part dragon" as part of her classification.
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yeah, I know about that, but it's easier to refer as "She" to create less confusion.Delta3000 said:
Also, Igneel was much weaker in that form and he was beaten by a held back Acnologia plus it's not the first time where a dragon can't hurt another dragon. Atlas flame vs Mother glare is a perfect example.
@Repp give me a little time for that.
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Delta3000 said:
Wait what?
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It does have effect it's just that his powers is thousand times greater so it doesn't matter the boost they get.
So a magic attack is effective against a being that can eat magic, and doesn't get affected by magic attacks at all.... Seems legit.
So a magic attack is effective against a being that can eat magic, and doesn't get affected by magic attacks at all.... Seems legit.
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@Reppuzan but wouldn't that make her like a 2nd generation dragon slayer if the only thing she has that's dragon like is the core, like sting and rogue with their lacrimas?
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No. It isn't mere implantation of Lacrima. Mordred was designed to share her father's attributes, and thus has the blood of a dragon and a core that allows her to use intense amounts of magical energy beyond what any normal human in the Nasuverse can achieve.
No. It isn't mere implantation of Lacrima. Mordred was designed to share her father's attributes, and thus has the blood of a dragon and a core that allows her to use intense amounts of magical energy beyond what any normal human in the Nasuverse can achieve.
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@Glass man he gets affected by DS magic.
@Reppuzan here Natsu hits Mother glare indirectly and she starts collapsing
here motherlgare falls on some buildings the diffrence in chapters is big because in between we have Makarov trying to fight atlas flame but can't even scratch him.
here Natsu punches mother glare and he screams out of pain so yeah DS magic is very effective.
@Reppuzan here Natsu hits Mother glare indirectly and she starts collapsing
here motherlgare falls on some buildings the diffrence in chapters is big because in between we have Makarov trying to fight atlas flame but can't even scratch him.
here Natsu punches mother glare and he screams out of pain so yeah DS magic is very effective.
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I see, it's been a while so I guess I simply forgot those parts since 6/7 Dragon Slayers (including freaking Laxus) didn't do crud.
I still can't see Natsu bypassing Mordred's Magic Resistance completely, but he should be able to do significant damage then.
I'm still leaning towards Mordred, since she isn't one to simply sit around and take hits. She's definitely going to be in Natsu's face and trying to slice or bite hands and feet off.
Also, I should mention that while her swordsmanship is poor, she is still a brutal and pragmatic enough fighter to take on Siegfried, whose swordsmanship surpassed what should be possible for mankind and allowed him to hold off Karna, on relatively even ground.
I see, it's been a while so I guess I simply forgot those parts since 6/7 Dragon Slayers (including freaking Laxus) didn't do crud.
I still can't see Natsu bypassing Mordred's Magic Resistance completely, but he should be able to do significant damage then.
I'm still leaning towards Mordred, since she isn't one to simply sit around and take hits. She's definitely going to be in Natsu's face and trying to slice or bite hands and feet off.
Also, I should mention that while her swordsmanship is poor, she is still a brutal and pragmatic enough fighter to take on Siegfried, whose swordsmanship surpassed what should be possible for mankind and allowed him to hold off Karna, on relatively even ground.
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Well, Natsu was shown as more tactical than before like how he raised the ground beneath him and than breath attacked on Blue note.
Later during the war he actually stopped himself and start saying how he can't beat all those people on his own, so he start thinking about a strategy so i think if morderd gets him in close combat and starts overpowering him than he will find a way to escape out of that limited range with his flames and try a more careful approach with range attacks and similar when getting into close range rather than just attacking recklessly.
Later during the war he actually stopped himself and start saying how he can't beat all those people on his own, so he start thinking about a strategy so i think if morderd gets him in close combat and starts overpowering him than he will find a way to escape out of that limited range with his flames and try a more careful approach with range attacks and similar when getting into close range rather than just attacking recklessly.
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From other dragon slayers the only stronger one than Natsu is Laxus and he was in a terrible physical state after his fight with Jura so it's not weird he couldn't do a lot.
Also, since Natsu was on top of motherlgare he kind had free time to hit him (when not fighting Rougue directly) while other dragon slayers had to deal with dragons personally.
Also, since Natsu was on top of motherlgare he kind had free time to hit him (when not fighting Rougue directly) while other dragon slayers had to deal with dragons personally.
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You mean the guy that threw around 7 dragon slayers with little to no effort?Blanked said:
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He did it against Blue note thou that was pretty short.Reppuzan said:
He didn't try to fight the soldiers head on but instead just push them away with range attacks in two occasions.
He fought against Zeref half time on range in their first battle and well in his second he couldn't since they were in the guild.
Also, when he one shot Jacob he hit him before getting close to him and he wouldn't even bother getting close, but he was pushed by Makarov or else the side effect of his attack would of destroyed the guild as said by others, so somewhat range when he can have some use of it will be used. He still obviously prefers h2h, but if necessary he will try some range attacks from time to time.
I mean there is also to judge that he didn't fight someone with a weapon so it's hard to tell would he force h2h against a similar opponent.
He fought Erza back in the day, but apparently he simply got one shot over and over again and their only battle on screen was a friendly brawl of 1 minute that got interrupted.
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Her precog and magic resistance should help her closing the gap. In addition her armor is also strong enough to somewhat deflect Chiron's arrow and would let her potentially survive his noble phantasm, so I don't really see her getting picked off from range unless Natsu spams his strongest ranged attacks.
If she closes the gap her sword strikes would be pretty devastating to Natsu considering Apocrypha materials state that she can one shot most servants with Mana Burst and a swing with Clarent. In terms of skill I would say that she has the advantage because she held the upper hand against Budget Siegfried.
Her missing trump card would make this difficult, but considering Natsu wouldn't really take advantage of his range I'm voting for Mordred.
If she closes the gap her sword strikes would be pretty devastating to Natsu considering Apocrypha materials state that she can one shot most servants with Mana Burst and a swing with Clarent. In terms of skill I would say that she has the advantage because she held the upper hand against Budget Siegfried.
Her missing trump card would make this difficult, but considering Natsu wouldn't really take advantage of his range I'm voting for Mordred.
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@Blanked He stated that magic doesn't affect him.
http://m.*************/manga/fairy_tail/v38/c542/8.html
http://m.*************/manga/fairy_tail/v38/c542/8.html
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If it's just bragging, then it wouldn't have been on his profile now would it?
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What? The fact he wasn't affected by anything used against him so far? Well, there is the fact no one in his verse can use something on his lvl in the first place. Also, his profile says resistance not immunity. That said lets not derail from this thread that's already long enough.Theglassman12 said:
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