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IDW Transformers upgrades again

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Profile revamps:

So starting off, I've got two new profiles. First is a redo of Soundwave's profile and a new profile for Rom.

Soundwave new profile (Full redo. Better P&A, justifications and a better looking profile overall)

Rom new profile

Attack Potency upgrades:

Now with the upgrades, as listed in his profile, Rom at his base level, alongside two other knights are capable of destroying a planet, which would place him at Low 5-B. This is important several characters within High 6-A such as Starscream and the coneheads (Who are basically fodder among the Decepticon ranks) are capable of fighting against Rom and the other knights, as shown in Rom vs. Transformers: Shining Armor #3 and 4. Several characters like Soundwave upscale from Starscream above and others like Rodimus and Prowl scale to Thundercracker and Skywarp, who should be equal to Starscream by them being made of the same body. That and we also do characters like Arcee being able to harm base Rom.

TL;DR all High 6-As becomes Low 5-B.

Now for High 5-A. Contextually speaking, Rom doesn't regularly really reach this level of power because doing so drains his energy faster, and Rom primarily does so when he's seeking to annihilate a planet, which as stated in Rom's AP section is a pretty consistent thing for knights to do as a last resort. While this means the aforementioned High 6-A characters wouldn't scale to this, the 5-B do and it's because of Baron Karza.

Baron Karza's whole gimmick is that he essentially absorbs the powers of others, combining it with his own. In Wrath of Karza issue 1 and 3, Karza absorbs the power of Micronus Prime and sees it as enough for him to conquer all of Earth's forces, Karza makes it a point that this new power is "godlike" and it begins to have profound effects on his mental state, something Karza never notes in comparison to other characters he's absorbed like a Dire Wraith or Rom, as seen in Rom and the Micronauts and especially issue 5, where Baron controls the entirety of Rom's body, so he should be very familiar with how far Rom goes in power. Adding on to this was Karza's uncertainty on how absorbing Micronus would go when he had no such problem with Rom. All this goes to show that Micronus Prime would be superior to Rom at his peak. This is important because Optimus is capable of holding his own against a Micronus amped Karza in Wrath of Karza issue 5, with him being the only one to do anything substantial to him. While Karza does defeat Optimus in issue 1, Optimus was caught off guard in that first fight, and while still weaker, Optimus being able to hold his own and even stop a fist should means he would downscale from karza anyway.

TL;DR all 5-Bs become High 5-A

Lifting Strength upgrade

This calc of Thundercracker holding up the Capitol Records building has been accepted and pretty much anyone scaling off of Class K becomes Class M.
 
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New profiles look good, my only complaint is the same one I had when you showed the sandbox on Discord: Soundwave’s ‘likely higher’ rating should be an ‘at most’ rating if he can harm Galvatron, especially now that Galvatron is getting upgraded all the way to High 5-A.

Also, with the Strika justification, I don’t see why Devastator is assumed to be casual here?
 
Soundwave’s ‘likely higher’ rating should be an ‘at most’ rating if he can harm Galvatron, especially now that Galvatron is getting upgraded all the way to High 5-A.
Galvatron is taken by surprise here and the blast doesn't do all that much damage, with Galvatron even stating he "almost felt it". It's iffy to also scale him to that level when other characters of that calibre like Optimus can outright one shot Soundwave or even Shockwave being able to straight up tank attacks from an enraged Soundwave.

Also, with the Strika justification, I don’t see why Devastator is assumed to be casual here?
Mainly with how cocky he's acting and him not taking her seriously.
 
Wouldn't be more cleaner if the cybertrons just had their own phys page?
 
Wouldn't be more cleaner if the cybertrons just had their own phys page?
I feel that would overcomplicate things as that would have to be covering for the bajillion TF continuities, with differing rules and stuff. Not only that, it's not that they have that much going for in terms of physiology that couldn't be covered by just placing it in a tabber, in comparison to other physiology pages at least.
 
I feel that would overcomplicate things as that would have to be covering for the bajillion TF continuities, with differing rules and stuff. Not only that, it's not that they have that much going for in terms of physiology that couldn't be covered by just placing it in a tabber, in comparison to other physiology pages at least.
This is only idw, you don't have to account for the other continuities unless you want.
And there's no quantum manip anymore so its red for Soundwave
 
This is only idw, you don't have to account for the other continuities unless you want.
Yeah but like I said, it's not like their physiology is so complicated that an entire page needs to be dedicated to it.

Also I'll remove it.
 
Galvatron is taken by surprise here and the blast doesn't do all that much damage, with Galvatron even stating he "almost felt it". It's iffy to also scale him to that level when other characters of that calibre like Optimus can outright one shot Soundwave or even Shockwave being able to straight up tank attacks from an enraged Soundwave.
Considering that Galvatron screams in pain when the blast hits him, I think it’s pretty clear that his claim of “almost [feeling] it” is just grandstanding. And taken by surprise or not, he’s still in the middle of combat, so I don’t think that particularly works as an explanation for why Soundwave can harm him with an AP stat literally 8 million times weaker than his durability.

And just to be clear, I’m not saying Soundwave should fully scale, I think he should be ‘At least Low 5-B, at most High 5-A’.
Mainly with how cocky he's acting and him not taking her seriously.
Eh… he doesn’t seem that casual to me once he actually attacks Strika, but I suppose it’s open to interpretation.
 
Considering that Galvatron screams in pain when the blast hits him, I think it’s pretty clear that his claim of “almost [feeling] it” is just grandstanding. And taken by surprise or not, he’s still in the middle of combat, so I don’t think that particularly works as an explanation for why Soundwave can harm him with an AP stat literally 8 million times weaker than his durability.

And just to be clear, I’m not saying Soundwave should fully scale, I think he should be ‘At least Low 5-B, at most High 5-A’.
At most High 5-A is fine ig, but it's just weird having two different stat vlues like that.
 
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