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Iron Man Model 51 stats.

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Peter "Quicksilver" Maximoff said:
Feats from the Fin Fang Foom Buster:

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Armor 55:

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Armor 57

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Someone check this out please.
 
Well, I am personally tired of Marvel at this point, but you can ask the calc group if you have found useful feats.
 
It is likely regular extreme Marvel inconsistency at work though.
 
Yeah, even the likes of Captain America and Spiderman have harmed Hulk and Thor before, as well as Iron Man getting easily defeated by Captain America, but having them all be 4-B is absurd.

@Newendigo, I never said Iron Man was always an underdog in general, I merely said he's always been an underdog compared to Hulk and Thor. Still, Matt or Sandman's inputs are needed.
 
I feel that people is missing the point of the thread by overlapping it with outside stuff...

I'm not trying by any means upgrade all of IMs versions as a whole, I'm trying to improve the reasonings for Model Prime key as it very lacking, and potentially upgrade it, based on all of the previous things that I link in the OP.
 
Well, we likely need cooperation from Matthew and Sandman31 to get anywhere, and Matthew has been very sparse in his responses lately.
 
Vision defeating Jane Foster Thor and Nova was when they were trying to stop a bloodlusted Vision plus them not going all out to defeat him. A PIS prone situation

I dont think Vision comparable to SS

I think the only time Vision harmed Hulk is via phasing. Also, do you have any feats of those hulks that puts them at 4-B?

Though I think Vision could have a higher dura via density manip
 
I believe that Vision must scale to his own feats, but regardless not the main point of the thread.
 
Sandman31 said:
Vision defeating Jane Foster Thor and Nova was when they were trying to stop a bloodlusted Vision plus them not going all out to defeat him. A PIS prone situation

I dont think Vision comparable to SS

I think the only time Vision harmed Hulk is via phasing. Also, do you have any feats of those hulks that puts them at 4-B?

Though I think Vision could have a higher dura via density manip
Could you check out the feats i posted?
 
Well, it may be best if we stick to settling the Iron Man discussion first.
 
I am okay with "At least High 5-A" by scaling from his old armour. But I'm not a fan of indirect scaling from Thor, just because he fought someone who fought Thor, with that infamous "anyone can fight someone not on their level" stuff in Marvel. So 4-B by indirect scaling is a no from me.
 
Okay. It seems exaggerated to me as well.
 
I think At least High 5-A is ok

Also, with Marvel, we rate characters not based on a single feat but based on their own overall/usual power levels, which is hard to do here because the feats shown above came from different armors.
 
Yeah, Marvel and DC, especially Marvel are the grand champions of excessive inconsistencies and PIS. Anyway, At least High 5-A seems to be what was accepted now.
 
@Sandman31

Would you be willing to help out by updating the Iron Man profile?

It would be appreciated if you include links with evidence that you consider useful.
 
I trust Sandman31's sense of judgement regarding Marvel and DC scaling.
 
Sandman31 said:
I think At least High 5-A is ok
Also, with Marvel, we rate characters not based on a single feat but based on their own overall/usual power levels, which is hard to do here because the feats shown above came from different armors.
The thing is that Model 51 is a combination of all this armors, and due to being a much modern model it should be above all of those, it like a sort of self-scaling.
 
Yes, I'm aware of that. But we need still need to see if those armors are consistently at that power level or if it's just a one time thing. Just because it's a combination of all armors doesn't me mean we throw consistency out of the window. Combine that with how Marvel work's where anyone can fight anyone because of plot. I think At least High 5-A is best
 
What I showed is what the armors have shown to be consistent in their short lives, because some of them have not appeared in more than two issues.
 
Consistency requires many appearances when it comes to such an unbelievably inconsistent franchise as Marvel Comics.
 
Okay.

Can we now just add the "At Least High 5-A" with the additional links? I want this finished so I can bring my next CRT.
 
@Newendigo

I am waiting for a reply from Sandman31 regarding if he is willing to help out with updating the profile.
 
Matt has not even replied yet.

Int@ Why 4-C? At best would be Low 4-C due to the big chain scaling, but meh.
 
Newendigo said:
Matt has not even replied yet.

Int@ Why 4-C? At best would be Low 4-C due to the big chaim scaing, but meh.
Yeah, but looking at how some are torn apart between High 5-A and 4-B, I thought just 4-C would be reasonable.
 
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