Is boundary manipulation conceptual manipulation?

[Corin211]

If a character can push the boundaries between two things making them the exact same thing, this would qualify as conceptual manipulation right?

 

[ROZAN-TIMSINA0]

nope
I think you should read the conceptual manipulation page

 

[Rutæhh]

this needs elaboration what is it the character is pushing the boundaries of anyway

 

[Greatsage13th]

Isn't Boundary Manipulation essentially specialized conceptual manipulation? Look at Yukari Yakumo.

 

[ROZAN-TIMSINA0]

Isn't Boundary Manipulation essentially specialized conceptual manipulation? Look at Yukari Yakumo.

if a verse shows it as concept then yes
by default no
as you have said, what yukari manipulating is the fundamental boundaries between concept with her boundary manipulation , it's application of her boundary manip but that doesn't mean every boundary manip in fiction would be same

like if a character can affect concept with water manipulation doesn't mean all water manipulation in fiction will be able to affect concept

 

[Corin211]

if a verse shows it as concept then yes
by default no
as you have said, what yukari manipulating is the fundamental boundaries between concept with her boundary manipulation , it's application of her boundary manip but that doesn't mean every boundary manip in fiction would be same

like if a character can affect concept with water manipulation doesn't mean all water manipulation in fiction will be able to affect concept

What if a character/objects is manipulating the boundaries between separate alternate universes which are described as a state of mind, a conception of something?

 

[Corin211]

nope
I think you should read the conceptual manipulation page

I already did. But I could find any explanation on why some characters like Yukari Yakumo have conceptual manipulation because of their boundary manipulation, while others don’t (as Greatsage even pointed it).

 

[ROZAN-TIMSINA0]

What if a character/objects is manipulating the boundaries between separate alternate universes which are described as a state of mind, a conception of something?

need more info on this
"state of mind " thing may suggest it being mental concept , which doesn't qualify as any concept types
but the conception of something can be type 3 , or maybe even type 2 and 1 if it's nature is elaborated upon

 

[Corin211]

need more info on this
"state of mind " thing may suggest it being mental concept , which doesn't qualify as any concept types
but the conception of something can be type 3 , or maybe even type 2 and 1 if it's nature is elaborated upon

Thank you.