Is Goku really 5D?

[D4yN4m0N]

Does anyone have a rebuttal for this here ? I asked once here but I didn't come to a conclusion. They're saying that Goku is 5D for that.

 

[Planck69]

The dimensions that grant higher tiers are spatiotemporal axes, not just other spaces. It very clearly just means that Other World is another universal expanse (it even calls it such), which isn't enough for Low 1-C or "5-D" at all.

 

[D4yN4m0N]

Okay, but what about this? The same thing?

 

[Planck69]

Okay, but what about this? The same thing?

Yes, because it's abundantly clear that the Kaioshin don't reside in some higher plane of existence above the universe.

The topic of higher dimensions has been exhausted to death in Dragon Ball so unless it's new material, you're not going to get anything changed.

 

[D4yN4m0N]

Yes, because it's abundantly clear that the Kaioshin don't reside in some higher plane of existence above the universe.

The topic of higher dimensions has been exhausted to death in Dragon Ball so unless it's new material, you're not going to get anything changed.

my goal is just to know a rebuttal for images. I don't want to change anything. Has anyone used this image in any other thread? if yes, could you give me the link?

 

[D4yN4m0N]

Yes, because it's abundantly clear that the Kaioshin don't reside in some higher plane of existence above the universe.

The topic of higher dimensions has been exhausted to death in Dragon Ball so unless it's new material, you're not going to get anything changed.

your answer to the second image was vague. In the second image it says that other world transcends other dimensions do you have a better answer about that?

 

[SuperStar]

There is a good reason that none of these statements are ever in primary canon

 

[QuasiYuri]

Am I the only one to find the text awfully unnatural?

 

[Planck69]

your answer to the second image was vague. In the second image it says that other world transcends other dimensions do you have a better answer about that?

.....It very clearly does not exist on some ontologically higher plane that views the regular universe as nothing. Putting it simply, it's clear from just observation that it isn't 5-D.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

For the unaware, which seems to be a lot of people, that "another level of reality" statement posted in the OP is completely invalid, because its origin is a manual for a pen and paper RPG — Dragon Ball Z: The Anime Adventure Game.

As for that Daizenshuu statement, nothing suggests that Other World qualitatively transcends the Living Universe, as though its makeup were fifth-dimensional. No, that excerpt is simply referencing the fact that the deities of the Other World are tasked with watching over the mortal realm.

 

[QuasiYuri]

For the unaware, which seems to be a lot of people, that "another level of reality" statement posted in the OP is completely invalid, because its origin is a manual for a pen and paper RPG — Dragon Ball Z: The Anime Adventure Game.

So that's why the text felt so weird. Thanks.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Strangely enough, the manual seems to use Ocean dub terminology (i.e., "Next Dimension"), further weakening its credibility.

Also, there is a section that states that Krillin could beat Clark Kent with his pinkie.

 

[Vietthai96]

By all mean, no.
Also for more informations Daizenshuu only stated Heaven transcended the Mortal Universe and can be comprehended by mortal being. However transcended here mean sitting above geometrically, not transcended in term of superiority