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Itachi Uchiha vs Zeref Dragneel (19-10-0)

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Now even if Itachi puts Zeref in genjutsu, could Zeref's manipulation of death affect Itachi?
if it's itachi while 'alive' then it will(idk much abt fairy tail) but if it's edo tensei itachi then it probably wouldn't since he has immortality type 7 and zeref death manip only works on living things(according to his profile)
 
Pretty sure Zeref thinks and the Death Manip kicks in.

There's a reason Zeref is the 8th strongest non-smurf 5-A on the wiki.
 
if this is Edo Itachi, then he should be fine dealing with Zeref's Death Manip by being a type 7 immortal

all characters with type 7 immortality have innate resistance to death manip because technically they're not alive to begin with, so the death manip user needs type 7 immortality negation to kill undeads with their hax
 
Counter Hax ignores the massive AP and Hax majority in between. By the way, since Itachi certainly has tremendous intelligence, he will just keep Zeref in genjutsu. According to SBA rules, leaving the opponent immobile for 1 hour is a victory condition. In addition, Itachi does not have stamina problems in this form, which means that he will move much more easily than when he is alive.
Itachi fra.
 
Counter Hax ignores the massive AP and Hax majority in between. By the way, since Itachi certainly has tremendous intelligence, he will just keep Zeref in genjutsu. According to SBA rules, leaving the opponent immobile for 1 hour is a victory condition. In addition, Itachi does not have stamina problems in this form, which means that he will move much more easily than when he is alive.
Itachi fra.
Itachi fra
 
Bro, what even is this fra train

sba said strongest versions so FH zeref passivly rewinds the genjutsu. Also itachi doesn't resist Zeref's death hax as it can kill people like Mavis who have resistance + mid godly Regen + soul manip that rips your soul from your body.
 
Bro, what even is this fra train

sba said strongest versions so FH zeref passivly rewinds the genjutsu.
zeref is not passively rewinding the genjutsu because genjutsu is not destroying his body or anything
Also itachi doesn't resist Zeref's death hax as it can kill people like Mavis who have resistance + mid godly Regen + soul manip that rips your soul from your body.
if this is Edo Itachi, then he should be fine dealing with Zeref's Death Manip by being a type 7 immortal

all characters with type 7 immortality have innate resistance to death manip because technically they're not alive to begin with, so the death manip user needs type 7 immortality negation to kill undeads with their hax
 
zeref is not passively rewinding the genjutsu because genjutsu is not destroying his body or anything
Yeah no, been through this plenty of times, that ain't how it's Stated in the profile nor the story itself, it's complete control over spacetime not some form of regen, Zeref himself calls it the pinnacle of all magic and he knows about plenty of mind hax abilities in FT.

Even if by some chance the genjutsu could take hold, zeref has a very particular mental setup that if even slightly disturbed would cause a death wave to consume a very large area anyways, the effects of his death manip aren't just death hax, it also rips the target's soul from their body, which edo Itachi dies to since that's basically what you do when releasing the IWR jutsu.
 
Yeah no, been through this plenty of times, that ain't how it's Stated in the profile nor the story itself, it's complete control over spacetime not some form of regen, Zeref himself calls it the pinnacle of all magic and he knows about plenty of mind hax abilities in FT.

Even if by some chance the genjutsu could take hold, zeref has a very particular mental setup that if even slightly disturbed would cause a death wave to consume a very large area anyways, the effects of his death manip aren't just death hax, it also rips the target's soul from their body, which edo Itachi dies to since that's basically what you do when releasing the IWR jutsu.
Itachi's mind manipulation has 3 layers, and I didn't see in the profile that Zeref has resistance to mind manipulation.
 
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