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Ground Rules:
  • Psykos will have her Fused With Orochi key, while Deku will have his Final War Arc key.​
  • Fight will take place in a random mountain range in Japan.​
  • Neither have prior knowledge on the other.​
  • Equalized speed, so Deku will be at 0.6227c while Psykos is left at Mach 7277.

Deku's AP - 2.54 Exatons with 100% Full Cowling, 12.71 Exatons through Quintuple Recharge.
(Arguably higher since Deku seems to be able to charge Fa Jin further, but I doubt that would be acceptable here.)
Psykos's AP - 5.68988 Exatons physically, 18.28267 Exatons with psychic abilities.

Regarding the validity of this post as I admittedly dropped the OPM manga before Psykos appeared, I will leave the ability to vote here. However, if there's no win-con for one of the characters that makes this an unfair matchup (you tell me, cause I have a history of doing this), this will simply be a post for the sake of fun.

Deku wins:
Psykos wins:

Voting cancelled since the fight is mismatched.
 
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you are only supposed to bump like every 12 hours or once a day.


charge Fa Jin further, but I doubt that would be acceptable here.)
I think we consider fa jin to be higher then the ap value you listed. I am not sure the exact amount. I am sure some supporter will tell us

I think deku has a chance his analytical prediciton is really good and he is insanely smart he will be able to figure out his win con is gearshift till he is stronger with fa jin. My only concern is the gravity manuip. how far is its range?
 
you are only supposed to bump like every 12 hours or once a day.
Yeah my bad. I was checking to see if the post popped up on Deku's tag but I couldn't see it. So I replied under the post to see if that'd fix it.
I think we consider fa jin to be higher then the ap value you listed. I am not sure the exact amount. I am sure some supporter will tell us
Quintuple Recharge and Fa Jin are considered to be the same thing on Deku's profile, even though the former was done without a Fa Jin attack at all from my memory, and was specifically used to charge one up so he could create a hole in Shiggy's body.

Quintuple Recharge on its own is considered to be a 5x multiplier (as the name suggests), so it's used to buff Deku's base 100% AP to 12.71 exatons.

Another thing, but the main reason I even mentioned how Deku's AP could potentially get higher is because he's stated to be capable of vaporizing Shigaraki's entire body through Fa Jin. I was thinking, "Maybe Deku can do the same thing with Psykos???"
I think deku has a chance his analytical prediciton is really good and he is insanely smart he will be able to figure out his win con is gearshift till he is stronger with fa jin. My only concern is the gravity manuip. how far is its range?
Tbh, Deku doesn't need Gearshift to massively outspeed here. He's at least 74x faster than Psykos here without Gearshift (Gearshift Deku > 100% Deku > Stars and Stripes), especially since her esper attacks are specifically where she gets her Mach 7277 attack speed from. I dunno anything about the gravity manipulation range though, as I already mentioned I dropped OPM earlier.

Regardless, Deku is 97x stronger than Psykos in terms of LS without buffs, so maybe that can help negate the gravity manip?
 
He's at least 74x faster
oh ill vote deku then. off basically just that. she will be be moving in slowmo to deku. and he is definitely smart enough and with his analytical prediction he will figure out exactly what her abilities are and just fa jin her to death. equalize speed probaly?
 
oh ill vote deku then. off basically just that. she will be be moving in slowmo to deku. and he is definitely smart enough and with his analytical prediction he will figure out exactly what her abilities are and just fa jin her to death. equalize speed probaly?
The thing about Psykos is that she appears to have pretty insane regeneration. The fact her AP is relative to Deku means there's a chance that he  might not be able to land lasting damage unless he potentiall charges Fa Jin or uses soul damage.

But I really couldn't say for sure atp. It's another Boros (pre-nerf) vs. Deku situation. I am open to changing the conditions but I'll wait for more people to give their takes.

Nvm, after consideration it probably would be more fair to equalize speed so Deku isn't significantly advantaged here.
 
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she is moving beyound slow mo to him and his LS advangte is so high she is basically not going to be able to move at all. I think gearshift overdrive + fa jin should be enough and he is going to be able to fire off so many of these before she has a small chance to react at all or even register what is going on.
 
she is moving beyound slow mo to him and his LS advangte is so high she is basically not going to be able to move at all. I think gearshift overdrive + fa jin should be enough and he is going to be able to fire off so many of these before she has a small chance to react at all or even register what is going on.
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he can still amp himself to be faster then her but it wont be to the point where he just blitzes her. so I guess the question as is with every single deku thread... will gearshift overdrive fa jin be enough.. id like MHA supporters though as I am not knowledge about the verse
 
he can still amp himself to be faster then her but it wont be to the point where he just blitzes her. so I guess the question as is with every single deku thread... will gearshift overdrive fa jin be enough.. id like MHA supporters though as I am not knowledge about the verse
100% Deku was relative to Apex Shigaraki in speed. After activating Gearshift he then practically statue blitzed Shiggy to the point that his attacks couldn't even be perceived, so the buff he receives is actually significant enough to blitz a character relative to him for 5 minutes.

Deku also has access to Fa Jin speed amps + Danger Sense. So he still has some advantages here, albeit at the cost of his stamina.
 
The thing about Psykos is that she appears to have pretty insane regeneration. The fact her AP is relative to Deku means there's a chance that he  might not be able to land lasting damage unless he potentiall charges Fa Jin or uses soul damage.

But I really couldn't say for sure atp. It's another Boros (pre-nerf) vs. Deku situation. I am open to changing the conditions but I'll wait for more people to give their takes.

Nvm, after consideration it probably would be more fair to equalize speed so Deku isn't significantly advantaged here.
Regarding the regeneration. Deku does have soul manipulation listed in his profile. He can damage the soul by transferring his quirk in a violently manner. The vestiges of OFA are also shown continuing on fighting the soul of their victims even after the transfer (although I do not know the limit to this).

Limited Soul Manipulation (Can transfer One For All in such a violent way that it can hurt the very spirit of the receiver,[12] which is then reflected onto their physical body, breaking both soul and body into nothing.[37] The vestiges within Deku can battle and repel intruders who enter his soul,[38] and they can even destroy other souls[39])
 
he can still amp himself to be faster then her but it wont be to the point where he just blitzes her. so I guess the question as is with every single deku thread... will gearshift overdrive fa jin be enough.. id like MHA supporters though as I am not knowledge about the verse
Gear shift and fa Jin are massive amps. Completed Shigaraki and 100% Deku are equal but he’s managed to blitz Shigaraki with gear shift and even faster with fa Jin for overdrive. Although Deku might only be able to bypass her regeneration with his soul manipulation.
 
I’m absolutely voting for Psykos here.

To begin with, Psykos holds a significant advantage in raw power. Her AP is alarmingly close to the threshold of one-shotting Deku — specifically, she's operating at a 1.1x gap from reaching that level. That alone places Deku at extreme risk, as any meaningful exchange of blows tilts the tides heavily in her favor. Additionally, Psykos' psychic energy acts as a form of very potent durability negation, causing severe internal damage to opponents on her level and stronger. Just a few moments of exposure is enough to bring them to the brink of death, and she's capable of keeping him in an enclosed space filled with it for however long she pleases.

Now, consider her AoE and sheer scale. Psykos’ omnidirectional danmaku, which directly parallels the complexity of the human brain’s neural network at minimum, can grow to planetary sizes over a relatively short period of time. This makes Deku’s analytical predictions mostly useless on their own meaning that he'd have to rely on his speed amps. This won't work on her either for several reasons:

First, Psykos is constantly protected by a barrier so durable that even Tatsumaki herself took note of its toughness. Deku’s strongest attacks wouldn’t even make it past this defense. Second, even if he somehow manages to bypass the barrier, unless he resorts to exclusively long-range attacks like shockwaves or something similar he’s as good as finished. Any physical contact would result in him being absorbed on the spot. And to make matters worse, Psykos’s regeneration is simply too overwhelming for Deku to do any real or lasting harm — even attacks that damage the soul aren’t enough, as she’s tanked soul damage from Orochi without issue.

But let’s play devil’s advocate. Even if Deku somehow bypasses her durability, her regeneration, and her barriers, her AP, and her danmaku (among others), he'd still be faced with an near-impossible task: he’d need to figure out how to separate Psykos from her roots before she completes her planetary fusion. If she fuses, the fight is over — Deku’s win condition vanishes entirely. And even then, as if that weren’t enough: Psykos also has Type 2 immortality, which Deku has absolutely no reliable counter to.

All in all, Psykos just has way too many win conditions and layers of overwhelming advantage for Deku to handle. It’s a clear victory for her.
 
Deku FRA due to reasons listed
What reasons?

You didn't read this post?

This fight is a clear stomp. Her TK, which is so close to a one shot that it might as well be, doesn't even have travel time.

The very second the fight begins, she rips him apart with her over 7x AP advantage. Izuku has no way of countering that. Even ignoring anything beside her physical abilities, Psykos scales so far above 5.68 Exatons that she believed she could defeat someone who'd effortlessly one shotted Orochi.

Adding on her regeneration, there's no way for Izuku to kill her in a reasonable manner. There's nothing anyone can say that gives Izuku any chance of winning here.
 
What reasons?


You didn't read this post?

This fight is a clear stomp. Her TK, which is so close to a one shot that it might as well be, doesn't even have travel time.

The very second the fight begins, she rips him apart with her over 7x AP advantage. Izuku has no way of countering that. Even ignoring anything beside her physical abilities, Psykos scales so far above 5.68 Exatons that she believed she could defeat someone who'd effortlessly one shotted Orochi.

Adding on her regeneration, there's no way for Izuku to kill her in a reasonable manner. There's nothing anyone can say that gives Izuku any chance of winning here.
Interesting. So I'll assume there's no point in counting votes, right?

Even if I were to switch back to unequalized speed, doesn't seem Deku's advantage there really helps.
 
Interesting. So I'll assume there's no point in counting votes, right?

Even if I were to switch back to unequalized speed, doesn't seem Deku's advantage there really helps.
Deku would land thousands of hits before psy could move a finger
 
Interesting. So I'll assume there's no point in counting votes, right?

Even if I were to switch back to unequalized speed, doesn't seem Deku's advantage there really helps.
I think Izuku still loses even if speed isn't equalized. SBA starts them at 4 km away, and that distance is enough for Psykos to react.

She can put up a barrier for herself and rip Izuku apart with TK. (Ignoring the fact physical contact means absorption as well, so punching her is just a bad idea)

Izuku has no way of putting down someone far more powerful than himself, and has regeneration way beyond Tomura's. High-Mid is some serious regen for a physical fighter like Izuku. It also doesn't help that he's vastly inferior to her as well. Even his strongest possible attack isn't capable of overwhelming that regeneration.

This is a clear stomp.
 
I think Izuku still loses even if speed isn't equalized. SBA starts them at 4 km away, and that distance is enough for Psykos to react.

She can put up a barrier for herself and rip Izuku apart with TK. (Ignoring the fact physical contact means absorption as well, so punching her is just a bad idea)

Izuku has no way of putting down someone far more powerful than himself, and has regeneration way beyond Tomura's. High-Mid is some serious regen for a physical fighter like Izuku. It also doesn't help that he's vastly inferior to her as well. Even his strongest possible attack isn't capable of overwhelming that regeneration.

This is a clear stomp.
Gotcha, thanks for your input then.

I'll stop the voting then.
 
Interesting. So I'll assume there's no point in counting votes, right?
Votes with no valid arguments are not counted as per the rules of the wiki, with the exception of FRA which is used when a person agree with another person's valid arguments.
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