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Jesuschrist fights against an Angel, Bruh momento numero 6

Aslan has type 9 immortality, reality warping, matter manipulation, and sleep inducement.

GP has the AP but he can't bypass that type 9. GP's best bet is BFR.
 
Zamasu Chan said:
Aslan has type 9 immortality, reality warping, matter manipulation, and sleep inducement.
GP has the AP but he can't bypass that type 9. GP's best bet is BFR.
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Aslan is only omnipresent on a low 2-C scale, GP has 2-C range, also GP also share those hax except sleep inducement.

Also how does type 9 work with characters who can travel dimensions and BFR ? can't GP just go where Aslan CAN be killed ?
 
Dragomer said:
Aslan is only omnipresent on a low 2-C scale, GP has 2-C range, also GP also share those hax except sleep inducement.

Also how does type 9 work with characters who can travel dimensions and BFR ? can't GP just go where Aslan CAN be killed ?
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...Do you realize that Aslan is omnipresent on a 2-A or even 1-C scale?

He exists within the Mortal Multiverse and Narnia, and it's implied that he exists in all creation, including the Wood, and all are infinite multiverses, and the Wood it's just a shadow of Aslan's country, where everything is more real and more eternal, and which is said to encompass endless worlds within worlds. What does GP can do against this?

And exactly how he can travel to Aslan's country? Does he have prior knowledge about it? Does he have omniscience to knew about it?

This thread it's a stomp for Aslan, it needs to get closed for someone, since GP cannot do nothing against the Lion and he just needs to warp GP to defeat him.
 
Alchemist Edo said:
Dragomer said:
Aslan is only omnipresent on a low 2-C scale, GP has 2-C range, also GP also share those hax except sleep inducement.

Also how does type 9 work with characters who can travel dimensions and BFR ? can't GP just go where Aslan CAN be killed ?
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...Do you realize that Aslan is omnipresent on a 2-A or even 1-C scale?
He exists within the Mortal Multiverse and Narnia, and it's implied that he exists in all creation, including the Wood, and all are infinite multiverses, and the Wood it's just a shadow of Aslan's country, where everything is more real and more eternal, and which is said to encompass endless worlds within worlds. What does GP can do against this?

And exactly how he can travel to Aslan's country? Does he have prior knowledge about it? Does he have omniscience to knew about it?

This thread it's a stomp for Aslan, it needs to get closed for someone, since GP cannot do nothing against the Lion and he just needs to warp GP to defeat him.
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If it was true, his AP and durability would also be on his level, it isn't so he isn't, nothing says otherwise on his page.

This a VS battle so it's neutral so there is only two place : where they fight and Aslan's country, doesn't take a genius to get it right when there is only 2 choice and one is wrong by default.

GP has reality warping too so no, it's not a stomp and it isn't a win condition for Aslan, Hell, outside of the immortality, litteraly anything GP does one shot Aslan.
 
Dragomer said:
If it was true, his AP and durability would also be on his level, it isn't so he isn't, nothing says otherwise on his page.

This a VS battle so it's neutral so there is only two place : where they fight and Aslan's country, doesn't take a genius to get it right when there is only 2 choice and one is wrong by default.

GP has reality warping too so no, it's not a stomp and it isn't a win condition for Aslan, Hell, outside of the immortality, litteraly anything GP does one shot Aslan.
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That's a false assumption. You don't need to have some 2-A AP to be omnipresent on a 2-A scale, both are such different concepts.

I don't understand to what you want to go with you "two place". But you're clearly mistaken it. Look the thread again:

"'Battle takes place in the World of Void".

The rule was established, you cannot change it. So again, how does GP would know about Aslan's Country?

Yeah, but how this would affect to someone who is omnipresent on a major scale than anything in DBS? If you're omnipresent then you would always be the first shot, unless you're from a higher dimension or something like it.

Again, this is a stomp, the thread needs to get closed because of it, since Aslan would defeat GP with a single move.
 
Alchemist Edo said:
Dragomer said:
If it was true, his AP and durability would also be on his level, it isn't so he isn't, nothing says otherwise on his page.

This a VS battle so it's neutral so there is only two place : where they fight and Aslan's country, doesn't take a genius to get it right when there is only 2 choice and one is wrong by default.

GP has reality warping too so no, it's not a stomp and it isn't a win condition for Aslan, Hell, outside of the immortality, litteraly anything GP does one shot Aslan.
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That's a false assumption. You don't need to have some 2-A AP to be omnipresent on a 2-A scale, both are such different concepts.
I don't understand to what you want to go with you "two place". But you're clearly mistaken it. Look the thread again:

"'Battle takes place in the World of Void".

The rule was established, you cannot change it. So again, how does GP would know about Aslan's Country?

Yeah, but how this would affect to someone who is omnipresent on a major scale than anything in DBS? If you're omnipresent then you would always be the first shot, unless you're from a higher dimension or something like it.

Again, this is a stomp, the thread needs to get closed because of it, since Aslan would defeat GP with a single move.
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If you're omnipresent on a 2-A scale, that mean you're basicaly a 2-A being by default, a 2-A being has 2-A durability at the very least and it isn't the case here.

That's how Aslan's immortality works, there is the place where they fight and there is the place Aslan's true self is which make him immortal as long as the true self is fine, if we use your interpretation of the rules, Aslan's immortality is negated since his true self would be right here since there would be nowhere else.

Being omnipresent on a low 2-C scale or even 2-C scale is dealt the same way everything is in DB, you blow the whole thing up, that's how Zamasu was dealt with and he was omnipresent on a low 2-C scale and Aslan doesn't have the AP nor the hax to put down GP, they pretty much share the same combat applicable hax after all.

Again, this is not a stomp and Aslan has no such move.
 
Dragomer said:
If you're omnipresent on a 2-A scale, that mean you're basicaly a 2-A being by default, a 2-A being has 2-A durability at the very least and it isn't the case here.

That's how Aslan's immortality works, there is the place where they fight and there is the place Aslan's true self is which make him immortal as long as the true self is fine, if we use your interpretation of the rules, Aslan's immortality is negated since his true self would be right here since there would be nowhere else.

Being omnipresent on a low 2-C scale or even 2-C scale is dealt the same way everything is in DB, you blow the whole thing up, that's how Zamasu was dealt with and he was omnipresent on a low 2-C scale and Aslan doesn't have the AP nor the hax to put down GP, they pretty much share the same combat applicable hax after all.

Again, this is not a stomp and Aslan has no such move.
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Again, you are not understanding how it works. The Omnipresence is totally separated of the other stats such AP or Durability, here are characters that doesn't have the same AP as they omnipresence in this wiki, like her, or even characters with no established AP that are omnipresent, like her. So, being Low 2-C in AP would not affect that the omnipresence is far higher. Even Aslan's profile states this:

"Range: Multiversal+ (Is present in many universes in many forms, including our own)"

As I see, you don't know how Immortality Type 9 works, so I'm assuming that you are new in this medium and so you cannot understand how such complex concepts like Omnipresence and Immortality works. So, I will recommend to you to see their respective pages so you can learn more about this. In this case, Aslan's immortality is not negated, since the rules of the thread never established this (Again, read it and read all the thread), and so, it would not matter if we assume that GP would kill Aslan's self in the WoV, he would return from his Country and it would not change anything the course of battle.

And again, it does not care since Aslan is not just omnipresent on a Low 2-C scale, but a 2-A scale, so GP has nothing to do with this.

The thread is literally a stomp. GP does not has nothing to do against Aslan's Immortality or Omnipresence, and the only thing that Aslan needs to do is warp GP to defeat him, or use another abilities that he have, such Sleep Manipulation or Empathic Manipulation.
 
"Again, you are not understanding how it works. The Omnipresence is totally separated of the other stats such AP or Durability, here are characters that doesn't have the same AP as they omnipresence in this wiki"

What? No?
 
Alchemist Edo said:
Dragomer said:
If you're omnipresent on a 2-A scale, that mean you're basicaly a 2-A being by default, a 2-A being has 2-A durability at the very least and it isn't the case here.

That's how Aslan's immortality works, there is the place where they fight and there is the place Aslan's true self is which make him immortal as long as the true self is fine, if we use your interpretation of the rules, Aslan's immortality is negated since his true self would be right here since there would be nowhere else.

Being omnipresent on a low 2-C scale or even 2-C scale is dealt the same way everything is in DB, you blow the whole thing up, that's how Zamasu was dealt with and he was omnipresent on a low 2-C scale and Aslan doesn't have the AP nor the hax to put down GP, they pretty much share the same combat applicable hax after all.

Again, this is not a stomp and Aslan has no such move.
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Again, you are not understanding how it works. The Omnipresence is totally separated of the other stats such AP or Durability, here are characters that doesn't have the same AP as they omnipresence in this wiki, like her, or even characters with no established AP that are omnipresent, like her. So, being Low 2-C in AP would not affect that the omnipresence is far higher. Even Aslan's profile states this:
"Range: Multiversal+ (Is present in many universes in many forms, including our own)"

As I see, you don't know how Immortality Type 9 works, so I'm assuming that you are new in this medium and so you cannot understand how such complex concepts like Omnipresence and Immortality works. So, I will recommend to you to see their respective pages so you can learn more about this. In this case, Aslan's immortality is not negated, since the rules of the thread never established this (Again, read it and read all the thread), and so, it would not matter if we assume that GP would kill Aslan's self in the WoV, he would return from his Country and it would not change anything the course of battle.

And again, it does not care since Aslan is not just omnipresent on a Low 2-C scale, but a 2-A scale, so GP has nothing to do with this.

The thread is literally a stomp. GP does not has nothing to do against Aslan's Immortality or Omnipresence, and the only thing that Aslan needs to do is warp GP to defeat him, or use another abilities that he have, such Sleep Manipulation or Empathic Manipulation.
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No, it isn't, that's even the whole reasoning behind infinit Zamasu so you're factualy wrong here, Omnipresence on any scale give you at least that scale of durability

is present =/= is omnipresent in all of those

You're the guy who doesn't understand how type 9 immortality work (and you've just demonstrated your lack of knowledge about omnipresence), how would Aslan return in his country if it doesn't exist here because it's a VS match ? either both the WOV and Aslan's country exist and GP can go there through dimension travel and teleportation or the Country isn't there and only the WOV is there so Aslan can't go anywhere and his immortality is null.

And again no, otherwise Aslan would have 2-A durability and he doesn't.

No, it isn't a stomp, GP is 2-C, litteraly snapping his finger a little hard would annihilate Aslan, that's how far apart their stats are and Aslan isn't warping shit since GP also has reality warping, GP has resistance against empathic manipulation and Sleep manipulation isn't going to do much against someone with UI, Also GP has his own hax, like spatial manipulation, matter manipulation, time manipulation and time travel.
 
Dragomer said:
No, it isn't, that's even the whole reasoning behind infinit Zamasu so you're factualy wrong here, Omnipresence on any scale give you at least that scale of durability

is present =/= is omnipresent in all of those

You're the guy who doesn't understand how type 9 immortality work (and you've just demonstrated your lack of knowledge about omnipresence), how would Aslan return in his country if it doesn't exist here because it's a VS match ? either both the WOV and Aslan's country exist and GP can go there through dimension travel and teleportation or the Country isn't there and only the WOV is there so Aslan can't go anywhere and his immortality is null.

And again no, otherwise Aslan would have 2-A durability and he doesn't.

No, it isn't a stomp, GP is 2-C, litteraly snapping his finger a little hard would annihilate Aslan, that's how far apart their stats are and Aslan isn't warping shit since GP also has reality warping, GP has resistance against empathic manipulation and Sleep manipulation isn't going to do much against someone with UI, Also GP has his own hax, like spatial manipulation, matter manipulation, time manipulation and time travel.
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I don't know if you know are just ignoring for convenience or not, but I already put you the proofs that someone omnipresent is not always at the same level of your Durability or AP. Yes, of course there are cases in which someone who is omnipresent scales to the level at the character is such the already mentioned Zamasu or Giygas, but this is not all the cases. You're already doing Ad Nauseam on something that I already explained.

You need more reading comprehension, the reason of why he is present in all those universes is because his Omnipresence, your exclamation doesn't works here. Even the same range give me the reason in which he's omnipresent on a 2-A scale. If you disagree, then make a CRT to discuss it.

You know what are the Standard Battle Assumptions? There is something called Verse equalizatio, which establish that the specific aspects of a verse will be assumed to work on different verses, in this case, the Immortality Type 9 of Aslan is still worknig because of this rule.

Verse equalization: Similar supernatural aspects of verses get equalized in a reasonable fashion. So a supernatural energy that almost everyone in a Verse has, which is necessary to fight the characters of said Verse, will be assumed to be the equivalent energy that the opponents use in their techniques so that a proper fight can happen.

Furthermore, attacks that require a special type of energy to be effective, like anti-magic requiring magic, will be assumed to work against the energies of different Verses, as long as they are somehow similar and the mechanics are somehow compatible with the known mechanics behind the energies from different Verses. For example, mind control resistance by being a capable mind user would also work against other Verses, but mind control resistance through a strong will would not necessarily work against mind control from other Verses. It is also important to note that characters won't lose or gain any abilities or resistances which they do or do not inherently possess. However, if an ability has a weakness, condition, caveat, or limitation, stated by at least a valid and uncontradicted statement, then it should be applicable after the equalization.

And again, what are you saying is not gonna happens since GP doesn't know about Aslan's country, because the thread never established that both have prior knowledge.

Already explained above.

I saw GP's profile. He doesn't have resistance to Sleep Manipulation, so it would work against GP. If you want to argue some resistance to the ability then make a CRT. Also, Aslan have Illusion Creation, something that GP wouldn't resist since he has no resistance to it, so that's something more that Aslan can do against GP.

And one more thing, relax. It seems like you're taking this thread seriously, I just consider it as a hobby or something like it, so, just stay relaxed, since doesn't have reason in something is not like it is the end of the world.
 
You didn't provide any proof, you just linked a profile that has nothing to do with the discussion and has 'likely highter' to the rating anyway (and it's an 'appear wherever they want' type omnipresence, not the 'is everywhere at once' omnipresence').

Those aren't just 'cases', that's litteraly how we treat omnipresence, you can't basicaly be a multivers and have wall durability, that's not how it works.

Trying to use fancy words won't make you right especialy when all your comments are just 'no, he is omnipresent' and 'muh sleep manipulation'.

Nope, it isn't, read the actual rational behind the character's profile before talking and you're the one who make a CRT, the actual profile doesn't in any way agree with 2-A Aslan.

Yes, i know what that is and how it works, clearly better than you, buddy, because it has basicaly nothing to do with what we are talking about right now.

GP redmist Aslan, see it doesn't kill him, sense him in his country since it's the only other place in this context, teleport or dimension travel and redmist again, pretty simple.

First, Angels don't sleep at all as a species to begin with and it would be redundant with their self sustenance and even if it worked, Ultra Instinct doesn't use input from the brain and all angels are in UI mode constantly and if it did put him to sleep, that won't help given that Aslan still can't scratch him.

Don't need to do a CRT when everything i'v said was discussed and accepted before.

Illusion creation is stalling at best, not a winning move, unlike matter manipulation and spatial manipulation, which Aslan doesn't resist.

I'm perfectly calm, making a point clear is different from being angry and don't derail the thread with your personal life or intention.
 
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