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Nasuverse Servant AP/Durability is a bit weird at the moment.
The A Rank Problem
Currently all the scaling stems from Numeral Gawain being able to clash evenly with Arondight. However, this happens while the two of them are living. In fact, Gawain and Lancelot never even fight as servants.
It isn't as big of a deal because Artoria says with Rin as a master she has the same strength that she did when alive. This in turn scales to other Knights of the Round. However, I have an even better solution than what we currently have.
The A++ Rank Solution
The solution is quite simple and will keep everyone'seventual scaling to Gawain. In Fate/Extra, Gawain is treated as an absolutely unbeatable opponent when he is buffed by Numeral of the Saint. This is stated numerous times throughout the story. Something notable about this fight against Gawain is the Playable servant can be a certain No Name Archer. As the penultimate fight in Fate/Extra, Hakuno's Servants have access to their Noble Phantasms and all of their skills. Archer's Noble Phantasm is a E~A++ in Fate/Extra. Numeral Gawain can remain unscratched even against Archer going all out. Hakuno views the battle as unwinnable if they can't find a solution to Numeral of the Saint. Hakuno even goes so far as to say it is beyond the two of them to scratch Gawain's armor. Numeral Gawain should scale above A++ Noble Phantasms, which are currently above 2.9 Teratons. As such Base Gawain scales to 1/3rd of that at 962 Gigatons, in the upper limits of High 6-C+.
This means 6-C Servants get an upgrade to the same High 6-C+ value as Base Gawain.
The Broken A Rank Alternative
First thing's first. Archer's Caladbolg II and Hrunting are A Rank Broken Phantasms. This means they are equal to A+ Rank Noble Phantasms as that is how Broken Phantasms work. Archer's Projection ranks down a Noble Phantasm, and then to compensate he breaks the Noble Phantasm ranking it up. As such, all Emiya pages that have these weapons should be updated to use the A+ value as opposed to the A value for Hrunting and Caladbolg II.
There may be some issues with scaling to 1/3rd the A++ NP value, one of which being we don't know which NPs in UBW is A++ and as such it's unclear if that NP was even used against Gawain. As an alternative, we can scale Numeral Gawain as remaining unscratched against Archer's A Rank Broken Phantasms like Hrunting and Caladbolg, which we know Archer has and uses within Fate/Extra. This ends up with Numeral Gawain scaling to the 2.9 Teraton value above and Base Gawain scaling to the 962 Gigatons.
Conclusion
Now, here's why I think Gawain should be scaling to the A++ rank NPs instead of the A rank NPs. Gawain is treated as virtually invincible with Numeral active. Even without knowing the extent of UBW it still scales relative to Gate of Babylon. We have seen Archer use UBW in the same way as Gilgamesh in Fate/Stay Night and in Fate/Extella. Extella even shows that Archer is capable of replicating Excalibur (albeit an "image" of it) and Excalibur Galatine. In conclusion, I believe with; Extella's showings, the rank of UBW, and the comparability to GoB, Numeral Gawain should scale to Low 6-B with Base Gawain scaling to 1/3rd that at High 6-C+.
Furthermore, Noble Phantasms at C Rank are noted to be equal to A Rank attacks. Therefore any Noble Phantasm above C Rank is more powerful than an A Rank attack. As the difference is only 1.03x, I'd suggest scaling these Noble Phantasms to baseline Low 6-B.
tl;dr
Numeral Gawain is completely unbeatable against Hakuno's servants.
Numeral Gawain should scale to the A++ value through No Name's NP Unlimited Blade Works which is E~A++. Low 6-B (2.9 Teratons)
Archer's Hrunting and Caladbolg II should be upgraded to the A+ value of Low 6-B (2.9 Teratons)
Alternatively, Numeral Gawain should scale above A Rank Broken Phantasms value through No Name's Hrunting and Caladbolg. Low 6-B (2.9 Teratons)
Regular Gawain, and thus all other servants, should scale to 1/3rd the agreed value. High 6-C+ (962 Gigatons)
Noble Phantasms above C Rank should also upscale from the above value to baseline Low 6-B (1 Teraton)
Agree (A++) - @Marshadow29, @Paul_Frank, @RetroWeeeb, @Maxeez, @Artorimachi_Meteoraft, @Kisaragi_Megumi, @Violetcyanide, @Migue79, @Violatas
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The A Rank Problem
Currently all the scaling stems from Numeral Gawain being able to clash evenly with Arondight. However, this happens while the two of them are living. In fact, Gawain and Lancelot never even fight as servants.
It isn't as big of a deal because Artoria says with Rin as a master she has the same strength that she did when alive. This in turn scales to other Knights of the Round. However, I have an even better solution than what we currently have.
The A++ Rank Solution
The solution is quite simple and will keep everyone's
This means 6-C Servants get an upgrade to the same High 6-C+ value as Base Gawain.
The Broken A Rank Alternative
First thing's first. Archer's Caladbolg II and Hrunting are A Rank Broken Phantasms. This means they are equal to A+ Rank Noble Phantasms as that is how Broken Phantasms work. Archer's Projection ranks down a Noble Phantasm, and then to compensate he breaks the Noble Phantasm ranking it up. As such, all Emiya pages that have these weapons should be updated to use the A+ value as opposed to the A value for Hrunting and Caladbolg II.
There may be some issues with scaling to 1/3rd the A++ NP value, one of which being we don't know which NPs in UBW is A++ and as such it's unclear if that NP was even used against Gawain. As an alternative, we can scale Numeral Gawain as remaining unscratched against Archer's A Rank Broken Phantasms like Hrunting and Caladbolg, which we know Archer has and uses within Fate/Extra. This ends up with Numeral Gawain scaling to the 2.9 Teraton value above and Base Gawain scaling to the 962 Gigatons.
Conclusion
Now, here's why I think Gawain should be scaling to the A++ rank NPs instead of the A rank NPs. Gawain is treated as virtually invincible with Numeral active. Even without knowing the extent of UBW it still scales relative to Gate of Babylon. We have seen Archer use UBW in the same way as Gilgamesh in Fate/Stay Night and in Fate/Extella. Extella even shows that Archer is capable of replicating Excalibur (albeit an "image" of it) and Excalibur Galatine. In conclusion, I believe with; Extella's showings, the rank of UBW, and the comparability to GoB, Numeral Gawain should scale to Low 6-B with Base Gawain scaling to 1/3rd that at High 6-C+.
Furthermore, Noble Phantasms at C Rank are noted to be equal to A Rank attacks. Therefore any Noble Phantasm above C Rank is more powerful than an A Rank attack. As the difference is only 1.03x, I'd suggest scaling these Noble Phantasms to baseline Low 6-B.
tl;dr
Numeral Gawain is completely unbeatable against Hakuno's servants.
Numeral Gawain should scale to the A++ value through No Name's NP Unlimited Blade Works which is E~A++. Low 6-B (2.9 Teratons)
Archer's Hrunting and Caladbolg II should be upgraded to the A+ value of Low 6-B (2.9 Teratons)
Alternatively, Numeral Gawain should scale above A Rank Broken Phantasms value through No Name's Hrunting and Caladbolg. Low 6-B (2.9 Teratons)
Regular Gawain, and thus all other servants, should scale to 1/3rd the agreed value. High 6-C+ (962 Gigatons)
Noble Phantasms above C Rank should also upscale from the above value to baseline Low 6-B (1 Teraton)
Agree (A++) - @Marshadow29, @Paul_Frank, @RetroWeeeb, @Maxeez, @Artorimachi_Meteoraft, @Kisaragi_Megumi, @Violetcyanide, @Migue79, @Violatas
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