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so we already had a CRT about it but due to complications with tier 3 feats it died so while it isn't revived, i will do it my own way.
1. Kirby's High 6-A should be replaced with 5-A. Why? Two reasons.
Calc 1: Zero's KE which scales to Zero and thus scales to Kirby and anyone who scales directly to him
Calc 2: Nova's movement
Now this brings us into our next part...
2. Kirby Super star Ultra timeline placement and scaling
There are a few things accepted at the moment...that being the fact that the events in KSSU regarding Marx Soul happens after Kirby Canvas Curse as the game came out after that...which is bullcrap for several reasons. Now KSSU is a remake of KSS which is happened before dream land 3 and Crystal Shards. KSSU was made way later but it doesn't mean that the events of the marx soul battle are suddenly ages later. Here are my reasons:
1. Marx is defeated but then absorbs the power of the nova and becomes marx soul. Here's the deal. If Marx was there flying around surrounded by debris, why would he, after floating seemingly dead for ages, suddenly decide that he would just absorb the energy? Saying that it happened naturally wouldn't make sense either as he transforms very fast
2. A game remake having extra content doesn't mean that the content had to have happened after the games that came after the original game. There's no reason to.
What does this mean?
Here's the deal.
Marx absorbed the energy of Nova and should scale to it. Considering he no longer scales to post-canvas curse Kirby he will stop being 4-A and will drop down to 5-A as he would scale to Nova. Kirby and Marx and anyone who scales to them should also have their LS upgraded to Class Z as Marx Soul would scale directly to Nova who can push against the sun and moon who can have a pushing contest with Nova, being capable of moving it's weight. The same thing happens to Nova. This would all scale onto Zero and Zero-Two and basically anyone who isn't Nightmare and is at High 6-A.
3. Nightmare tier
Nightmare needs a tier since he came before the feats above. How do we scale him? Kirby tanked Nightmare's explosion and they can both fight each other so naturally he'd be 5-C+ right? Well here's the deal. The moon in Kirby isn't the same as the earth's moon, in fact we have the earth's moon in the game already. The question is, should we keep at it with the normal moon or should we pixel scale the moon in comparison to Popstar? If we do that it'll be bigger and boost the feat into 5-B territories. The question is, Should it be done in the first place?
The calc exists and the moon scaling is bigger so we should use that.
4. Helper to hero
There's a mode in kirby super star ultra where enemies turned helpers go through a boss rush and beat high end bosses. In the game they can also appear and help Kirby fight bosses in the main story. This means that they should have a separate "helper" key where they are 5-A
this includes almost everyone in the helper tab in the kirby verse page.
5. Dedede and Meta Knight new keys
Simply put, both should have their 5-A keys and also a key with their waning and waxing masks.
1. Kirby's High 6-A should be replaced with 5-A. Why? Two reasons.
Calc 1: Zero's KE which scales to Zero and thus scales to Kirby and anyone who scales directly to him
Calc 2: Nova's movement
Now this brings us into our next part...
2. Kirby Super star Ultra timeline placement and scaling
There are a few things accepted at the moment...that being the fact that the events in KSSU regarding Marx Soul happens after Kirby Canvas Curse as the game came out after that...which is bullcrap for several reasons. Now KSSU is a remake of KSS which is happened before dream land 3 and Crystal Shards. KSSU was made way later but it doesn't mean that the events of the marx soul battle are suddenly ages later. Here are my reasons:
1. Marx is defeated but then absorbs the power of the nova and becomes marx soul. Here's the deal. If Marx was there flying around surrounded by debris, why would he, after floating seemingly dead for ages, suddenly decide that he would just absorb the energy? Saying that it happened naturally wouldn't make sense either as he transforms very fast
2. A game remake having extra content doesn't mean that the content had to have happened after the games that came after the original game. There's no reason to.
What does this mean?
Here's the deal.
Marx absorbed the energy of Nova and should scale to it. Considering he no longer scales to post-canvas curse Kirby he will stop being 4-A and will drop down to 5-A as he would scale to Nova. Kirby and Marx and anyone who scales to them should also have their LS upgraded to Class Z as Marx Soul would scale directly to Nova who can push against the sun and moon who can have a pushing contest with Nova, being capable of moving it's weight. The same thing happens to Nova. This would all scale onto Zero and Zero-Two and basically anyone who isn't Nightmare and is at High 6-A.
3. Nightmare tier
The calc exists and the moon scaling is bigger so we should use that.
4. Helper to hero
There's a mode in kirby super star ultra where enemies turned helpers go through a boss rush and beat high end bosses. In the game they can also appear and help Kirby fight bosses in the main story. This means that they should have a separate "helper" key where they are 5-A
this includes almost everyone in the helper tab in the kirby verse page.
5. Dedede and Meta Knight new keys
Simply put, both should have their 5-A keys and also a key with their waning and waxing masks.
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