Lancer vs Lancer?!?!?!?!

[Xmark12]

Being a Lancer is suffering...

Canon!Cu

vs

Proto!Cu

Rules:

• Summoned in Europe Canon!Cu vs ...just Proto!Cu.

• Both are at peak condition and trying their hardest to win.

• In-character.

• Win by death.

Music:

Battle Theme 1

Battle Theme 2

Score:

Canon!Cu: 2

Proto!Cu: 0

Inconclusive: 2


u wot


nani

 

[LordGinSama]

Cu wins

 

[Xmark12]

Either way...

Lancer dies.

 

[Schnee_One]

It pretty much depends on who throws Gae Bolg first.

Inconclusive

 

[Apocrypha_Inducement]

Who ever kills themselves faster.


^ Inconclusive.

 

[Xmark12]

0 - 0 - 2. =V

 

[Ramesses_the_Sun_King]

Is this Prototype Cu with Misaya as master?

 

[Xmark12]

Mhm. Dunno who Canon Cu's master would be here tho. Maybe Bazett?

 

[Ramesses_the_Sun_King]

If Proto Cu gets Misaya as a master then Older Cu wins because his Gae Bolg isn't sealed if not then the match is decided by who uses Gae Bolg first. So I vote inconclusive if it's not Misaya, but if it is her then I vote Older Cu.

 

[Xmark12]

Oh, then Proto Cu doens't have Misaya as a Master. Both are at peak condition with no holding back.

0 - 0 - 3.

 

[Ramesses_the_Sun_King]

Peak Condition Proto Cu with Misaya as a master does have Gae Bolg so yeah this is inconclusive. Older Cu should actually win with his castle noble phantasm and chariot but since we don't know what they do that's not valid for this match :/

 

[NotEvenHuman]

Gae Bolg is a non-factor here. Both of them know what it does, and will just jump out of range if the other tries to activate it, or just counter with their own in case the other tries to throw it.

FSN Cu is literally just an older, more experienced Proto Cu, so he wins via being a straight upgrade of his opponent. He also has Battle Continuation and Disengage, which i'm fairly sure Proto Cu doesn't have.

 

[Schnee_One]

How do they jump out of range when Gae Bolg is 40 km in range?

 

[Reppuzan]

@Gargoyle

They're talking about the Anti-Unit version, not the Anti-Army version (which might get a range upgrade since Shirou said he wouldn't be surprised if said NP could hit the other end of the Earth).

@NEH

FSN Lancer has a lower Strength rating though.

 

[Schnee_One]

Also proto Cu has 7B durability

 

[NotEvenHuman]

The strength difference is compensated by BC and more experience. He's also going to know all of Proto Cu's moves.

 

[Ramesses_the_Sun_King]

This is Ireland Cu so he is actually not only more experienced he is also stronger than Proto Cu. Proto Cu is faster so they should still roughly equal in CQC with slight advantage to Older Cu because of more experience. Older Cu's strength advantage is kind of a non factor because both can rune boost themselves.

Thrown Gae Bolg means the other can rune boost his and overpower it for the kill assuming both don't rune boost, which is unlikely given that Proto Cu has also mastered runes. If we ignore the Castle and Chariot for Older Cu they are equal in the NP department. Heartstab Gae Bolg is kind of useless here considering they know everything about it and can just retreat out of its range.

They will have to duke it out in melee, and that's where battle continuation and superior experience will give Older Cu the win.

 

[Xmark12]

1 - 0 - 2 then.

 

[NotEvenHuman]

This is Ireland Cu so he is actually not only more experienced he is also stronger than Proto Cu. Proto Cu is faster so they should still roughly equal in CQC with slight advantage to Older Cu because of more experience.

Not really. Proto Cu is still Cu Chullain, even if he's a younger version, so he would probably also get a fame boost. And his profile says that his AGI is higher because he has a more youthful mentality rather than actually being faster. So FSN Cu has some pretty clear advantages in CQC.

@Xmark 2 - 0 - 2 actually. I also voted for FSN Cu.

 

[Ramesses_the_Sun_King]

Isn't this just Cu with Ireland fame boost vs Proto Cu without Ireland fame boost? So being younger in mentality gives you a + modifier in agility... Sasuga Nasu. In which case then yeah Cu has a major advantage in CQC.

 

[NotEvenHuman]

Isn't this just Cu with Ireland fame boost vs Proto Cu without Ireland fame boost?

Oh, yeah, you're right. I thought the fight was actually happening in Ireland, sorry.

 

[Ramesses_the_Sun_King]

No problem, I was just a bit confused.

 

[Xmark12]

If it makes it more fair, then the match may take place in Ireland and both have the fame boost, but mkay.

2 - 0 - 2.