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Li Qiye Revisions Again

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Summary of whats being added:​

  • Added new key (Three Immortals World) with corresponding P&A.
  • Added new tabber for his equipment corresponding to his new key.
  • Added new tabber for his NA&T section corresponding to his new key.
  • Added Limited black hole creation, morality manip, and fate manip for his first key.
  • Added resistances to: morality manip, law manip, corruption, space-time manip, and purification; for his first key.
  • Added resistance to power nullification for his third key.

Cultivation Layers​

The Chaotic Forest is a forest that assaults the mind the deeper you pass through its levels. Li Qiye could easily get through all 14 levels of the Chaotic Forest, whereas even people with the most fortified willpower could not. For reference, a cultivator (Xu Hui) at the Heaven's Mandate level (basically the 6th cultivation level from the Nine Worlds), could only cross 6 levels of the Forest, stopping at the 7th one. When Xu Hui was at a lower cultivation level, he could only cross 5 (this scan also implies that the higher your cultivation, the stronger your mind will be for you to cross through more levels of the Forest). And again here, where it's stated you need to be of a higher cultivation than Nine Saint to resists his illusions. Further on, the "abilities and methods" from those with a lower cultivation are "ineffective" against those with a higher cultivation, with the latter not even needing to use anything but physical strikes.

At the imperial realm, the levels in-between are very strict as well. An emperor with less fate palaces cant defeat an emperor with more fate palaces. The difference between fate palaces is absolute. A 5-palace emperor would find impossible to kill a 6-palace emperor. Even the difference between one cultivation realm (Emperors to Progenitors) is an unsurpassable gap, no matter how powerful the Emperor is. The gap between a True Saint and True God is "immense like the difference between heaven and earth". A True God sees all realms lower than it as mortals, regardless of which realm it is, even if it is just one cultivation realm below, they are all equally powerless (mortals) compared to a True God. A True God, in turn, is merely an ant compared to an Emperor, following the same logic, and so on.

So basically: Li Qiye > Dark Existences > Progenitors > Emperors (this in itself is divided in twelve levels due to fate palaces) > True Gods > True Saints > True King > True Champion > True Hero > True Mortal > True Warrior > True Apprentice

Since Li Qiye has not only 13 palaces but is even above dark existences and progenitors, this would give him 20 layers for his P&A from his Immortal Emperor/Arrogance key, and 22 layers for his Three Immortals World key. Other keys will have corresponding layers based on his cultivation at the time of the arc.

His dao heart in specific is already supreme since the beginning of the novel, so it would be the same for all keys.

For those wondering, with this update his profile will cover 3/7 of the novel's current content.
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Staff votes:​


Agree: @Zaratthustra, @Reiner04, @Dereck03, @DarkDragonMedeus

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I suggest making a separate profile. The amount of keys by the end is too much. Also, in chapter 4710, Li Qiye got infinitely exiled through infinite dimensions. This happened in the Eight Desolates, which is formerly the Nine Worlds.
 
****** up how you're making me read through all of this Li Qiye stuff again oblivion
So going through the profile again, I am kinda just begging here for you to like, fix the equipment section, please only include directly new stuff (and say what stuff he lost) because otherwise it is hell to parse, esp with how small the scrollbox is
Greater Life Manipulation & Death Manipulation (Has mastered life and death through his control over the heaven and earth. With the evolved Death Scripture, Li Qiye can become the embodiment of death and directly harvest a person's life just by looking at them]
This is also high-godly ress, though I'm unsure how combat applicable it would be, considering I'm not sure if he can actually use it on himself after he gets erased to whatever degree
the second scan is also extra support for AE1
Greater Power Mimicry (With the evolved Thought Scripture, Li Qiye can utilize aspects of himself or his enemies. By reading their mind and knowing what they consider to be a "supreme" ability or power, Li Qiye can replicate said ability)
I would also think this is subjective reality as they are manifesting what said person thinks is "supreme"
Greater Pressure Points (With ultimate accuracy and precision, Li Qiye's apogee can destabilize techniques and abilities with the simplest of movements, having full control over the little details and imperfections from the techniques. Li Qiye's power control with these moves are perfect to an incalculable level, stopping Dracoform Martial God's entire body just by blocking the latter's fist with a smooth palm grab. Even the slightest touch can instantly take control of the person's body and even implode it[267][268])
This is also power mod/power null, body control and mind manip, the latter two because he is just directly controlling Dracoform's body and mind through this
Abstract Existence (Type 1; Concept Type 1. Fused his own existence with his Grand Dao. Henceforth, he was the grand dao and the grand dao was he, with no distinction between the two[272])
This seems like it should be limited or ae2 as he only fuses his true will with the Grand Dao, and thus his body remains """physical""", he should also give him some form of omnipresence seeing as how he is becoming all of heaven and earth + the stuff from his HDE scans, also his true fate should get BDE
Greater Law Manipulation & Conceptual Manipulation (Type 1. Li Qiye's grand dao is the most peerless grand dao with the greatest profundity, where all other daos and laws are derived from in accordance with Li Qiye's rules, which encompass the whole of creation. All possible laws in existence, including those that dictate all possible daos, are below him and prostrate to him, with Li Qiye having supreme authority over everything. The myriad daos are the fundamental essences that make up reality and all existences)
Honestly with this stuff + the stuff from other scans, you could very well argue 1-A for his grand dao in specific, or hell, 1-A for all grand daos, but I honestly don't know if there are any antifeats or what have you, so if you want to, be my guest
Plot Manipulation (All possible daos are his servants, being able to use any progenitorial ability, which includes Orchid Sage's Immortal Chapter, which allows him to see the entire world as a canvas and people as merely drawings on a piece of paper, which he can freely erase with his brush)
This would include a lot more than just the plot manip no?, I would go like, "All daos are his servants, allowing him to use the abilities of progenitors, including Plot Manipiulation (Justification goes here), Other Haxes you can remember off the top of your head, likely many more." to show the fact that it isn't just Plot manip he can use, and set up for adding any easy things you want to
Crystal: An almost invisible sword, with a blade as thin as universally possible. It's capable of flawlessly cutting any target. This blade is the very affinity of sharpness.
This is dura neg, though I question what affinities are (mostly to give a mechanic for said dura neg)
Flame: A fire sword with the hottest temperature. Even the world itself would instantly burn to a crisp upon touching this sword. It is hot enough to make the sun look cold and even burn space itself. People struck by this power are burned into complete nothingness, not even ashes are left behind.
Would very much include this as enhanced fire manip for this key
Water: A water lake that can defend against and absorb any attack, turning the accumulation of power into countless water swords that are thrown back at the enemy, slashing through time and space.
Attack reflection/energy absorption
Primordial Light: The ultimate weapon, capable of destroying everything in the world. It is the first light of the world and also the last, the light of creation and destruction. Just by looking at it causes someone to be absolutely suppressed, including their cultivation, body, and dao heart. Its detonation was powerful enough to destroy multiple dark overlods and the World of Death, a boundless void that lacks the affinities/concepts of space and time, and grand dao, simply having nothing that made up reality.
NEP Type 1 Aspect 1, 2, 3 and 5 NPI and also EE (seemingly, but correct me if I'm wrong) that can erase/destroy it, I also wonder about how he survived this, if he did it through dura/resists then that's hax resistance to the previous, but if its regen/ress or one of his things like the coffin or death scripture then that would be even better high godly
Finality: This Scripture encompasses and surpasses all sword dao, allowing Li Qiye to create invincible sword with a single thought. The name meant that everything would end with the sword, whether it be merit laws or any other affinities. The moment this sword came out, all would stop. Despite being the origin of sword dao, Finality had no techniques, variations, or dao of the sword. It had everything yet nothing of the sword dao, only existing in the heart and mind. However, everyone had unique thoughts, so its shape would vary as well. For Li Qiye, his assimilation allowed him to have a formless sword, or that he himself was the sword.
That's interesting, though a question, since this is directly derived from the physique scripture, would this not then give him all the resulting powers of the other physiques he didn't select, either through creating a sword with the physique's power or something else?
tbqh i was expecting more, but I am happy there wasn't more, considering how long my post on the last thread was
 
This seems like it should be limited or ae2 as he only fuses his true will with the Grand Dao, and thus his body remains """physical""", he should also give him some form of omnipresence seeing as how he is becoming all of heaven and earth + the stuff from his HDE scans, also his true fate should get BDE
Limited AE1 makes sense to me. Whats your reason for BDE1?
Honestly with this stuff + the stuff from other scans, you could very well argue 1-A for his grand dao in specific, or hell, 1-A for all grand daos, but I honestly don't know if there are any antifeats or what have you, so if you want to, be my guest
Yeah uh, I'd rather not touch that yet.
This would include a lot more than just the plot manip no?
Yes. However, that would be a shit ton of more work + the abilities that he has right now are already better than 99% of whatever daos the other people have, except Orchid Sage's (from what I can remember).
This is dura neg, though I question what affinities are (mostly to give a mechanic for said dura neg)
Affinities are concepts (and opposing concepts).
NEP Type 1 Aspect 1, 2, 3 and 5 NPI
Btw, wouldn't the World of Death qualify for BDE1 as well?
I also wonder about how he survived this, if he did it through dura/resists then that's hax resistance to the previous, but if its regen/ress or one of his things like the coffin or death scripture then that would be even better high godly
He resurrected from it.
That's interesting, though a question, since this is directly derived from the physique scripture, would this not then give him all the resulting powers of the other physiques he didn't select, either through creating a sword with the physique's power or something else?
He never used any physique power with the Finality Sword, so it's unclear. However, he can already use the powers from all 12 physiques through his Twelve Gods and Devils.
I am kinda just begging here for you to like, fix the equipment section, please only include directly new stuff (and say what stuff he lost)
Alright, I'll try, at least for his last 3 keys for now.
 
Agree with the sandbox and what Deonment mentioned above. I think it can fit BDE 1 as the World of Death lacks space-time, no grand dao or mysteries - the concepts that makes such things to exist in reality.

3k out of 7k chapters...just another 4k chapters Oblivion, you can do it
 
Limited AE1 makes sense to me. Whats your reason for BDE1?
His Grand Dao is the source of (and is independent of) Space and Time, and thus could very easily qualify for it in my mind, just tack it onto the AE1 stuff
Yes. However, that would be a shit ton of more work + the abilities that he has right now are already better than 99% of whatever daos the other people have, except Orchid Sage's (from what I can remember).
Aight
Yeah then that's dura neg through concept manip, and all of the powers from Finality would also be conceptual in nature
Btw, wouldn't the World of Death qualify for BDE1 as well?
Yeah, it would, just forgot
He resurrected from it.
Yeah, so that would be better high godly res than what he had in earlier keys, esp if the light also destroyed the world's concept of death
He never used any physique power with the Finality Sword, so it's unclear. However, he can already use the powers from all 12 physiques through his Twelve Gods and Devils.
kk
Alright, I'll try, at least for his last 3 keys for now.
Thanks
 
Agree. The Layers work even on the sub levels. Meng Zhentian was able to negate all the other Paragons with his presence. The True Gods and their equivalent should have that elevated to a conceptual standard as they are able to negate entire origins which contains the Dao and history of the person.

Edit: His Emperors key should just have Low 1C and probably combined. There isn't much difference in actual levels aside from him gaining a new scripture in between and just him sandbagging.
 
Since this has enough staff votes and more than 48 hours have passed, I'll close and apply the changes.
 
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