Lord Garmadon vs Shinnok

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Holy shit this is possible. I'll put them at a shouting distance.

Base Garmadon vs (Restricted) Current Timeline Shinnok.

Lord Garmado:

Shinnok: 1

Inconclusive:



Implied to have played Raiden like a fiddle in MK9, not like that would be too surprising

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

bump

 

[DMUA]

Yobo is out so

Not gonna get nearly the knowledge out of me. DMB maybe though

 

[ExodusNexus]

Is there a range?

 

[DMUA]

4 KM by default since Base Garmadon can send shadows of himself to attack people from an entire universe away

 

[ExodusNexus]

Powers and Abilities: Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Expert Martial Artist, Dark Magic, Master Scythe Wielder, Summoning, Shapeshifting, Soul Manipulation, Telepathy, Telekinesis, Teleportation, Cross-Dimensional Traveling, Portal Creation, BFR, Forcefield Creation, Immortality (Types 1 and 2), Possesses all of Quan Chi's powers, including: Life Absorption, Mind Control, Necromancy, Magnetism Manipulation, Illusion Creation and Duplication | All previous abilities, Astral Projection, Corruption (Type 3), Power Mimicry, Projectile Nullification, Sealing, Bone Manipulation, Weapon Creation, Absorption

Is this Sinnok's power list?

 

[DMUA]

I dunnno is that what his profile says

 

[ExodusNexus]

Yes. I'm asking if that's the right key.

 

[ExodusNexus]

What does Shinnok use first?

 

[DMUA]

Lolseal is the usual meta, but that's for 5-B and I dunno if he has his amulet normally in this key. And I also dunno if it works across 4 KM as he's being pelted by Shadow Clones, each of which being stronger then him

 

[ExodusNexus]

What can he use at that range?

 

[DMUA]

and now my knowledge goes dark

teleports behind the shadows

 

[ExodusNexus]

It looks like Garmadon has the advantage in power and range, so I'll vote for him for now based on that.

 

[ExodusNexus]

This is a good match too.

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

The clones are easy to deal with, he can seal multiple beings into his amulet, and it has a pretty good range for sniping with energy blasts.

He can attack with portals as well.

 

[ExodusNexus]

Has he ever sealed a shadow?

 

[ExodusNexus]

Also, what does he do with portals?

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

He can redirect his attacks into a portal leading to his enemy, usually behind them.

 

[ExodusNexus]

Hmm....

Is that his main move or first move?

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Not really his first move in character, but since they're far he'd go for that first since he can't seal him with that distance.

 

[ExodusNexus]

Has he ever done portals from that distance?

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

It's interdimensional, he uses it travel between dimensions, so the range should easily reach from afar.

 

[ExodusNexus]

Has he ever sealed a shadow?

This is still a issue

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Can I see what this shadow can do?

 

[ExodusNexus]

What do you mean?

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

It's non-corporeal, is it?

 

[ExodusNexus]

Yes. It's the person's shadow

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

He can disappear temporarily to remove it, then reappear towards his opponent at instant sealing range.

 

[ExodusNexus]

What?

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

He disappears from the battlefield, removing his shadow.

 

[ExodusNexus]

Their shadow is detached from them though

 

[DMUA]

It's not made of Shinnok's shadow from my memory. It's just a shadow clone made by Garmadon.

Then again, I'm super rusty.

 

[ExodusNexus]

It's his shadow made into a clone of him and duplicated

 

[DMB_1]

I'd like to know how Shunnok's Soul Manipulation, Corruption and Absorption work.

Also, the Shadows that Garadon summons aren't connected to their owner anymore.

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Shinnok's soul manip is just your classic soul rip. His corruption comes from him corrupting the Jinsei, Earthrealm's lifeforce. And he can absorb energy from the Jinsei as well, making him more powerful.

 

[DMB_1]

Ok:

Soul Rip can get rid of Garmadon, but it depends how likely he is to use it, and to what range. Unless I'm wrong, life-force absorption shouldn't work on an Undead guy, and I don't know about corruption, but Garmadon is already Evil AF.

BFRing Garmadon won't really achieve anything since he can just manifest as a Shadow in the main universe and throw shadow clones at you, so I assume that Shinnok would realize this and proceed chase Garmadon into the dimension he previously BFR'd him in.

A thing to note is that Garmadon doesn't use EE in character unless Shinnok decided to throw at him some sort of projectile, in which case Garmadon could erase that thing, or try to throw it back with SPinjitzu.

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

His lifeforce absorption works on undead, scaling to Quan Chi since he gave him all of his powers.

Here, Quan Chi saps the undead Drahmin of his life.

And out of all the hax he uses, he consistently starts with sealing. He could use portals offensively by sticking his hand into a portal that appears behind his enemy and attack accordingly.

 

[DMB_1]

WHere does SHinnkow seal you?

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

You mean where does he take you?

 

[DMB_1]

Yes.