Lupin III Discussion Thread (2)

[jigendaisuke2014]

I'm sure no one is going to answer this question, but... is there a reason why there hasn't been a Pachinko that has Part VI's or the IIIRD's character designs? They've been reusing the same designs in the 2000's specials and a combination of Parts IV and V.

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

I'm sure no one is going to answer this question, but... is there a reason why there hasn't been a Pachinko that has Part VI's or the IIIRD's character designs? They've been reusing the same designs in the 2000's specials and a combination of Parts IV and V.

Money

 

[jigendaisuke2014]

Money

Well, I guess they are pretty broke or greedy, but it's one of the big reasons why Lupin is profitable for TMS lol. Maybe they actually plan to use Part VI's designs for the 55th anniversary, given that they finally used Part V's designs for the first time in 2022 for the 50th anniversary. But despite that they can make new animations for The First Pachinko which surprised me that they're still not using the recent designs.

(Idk what sicko in the world would be talking about Lupin III Pachinko machines, but hey, I'm here. And I'm a real sicko.)

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

In addition to the Part 5 designs being the more iconic versions (blue jacket has basically become the new default for modern stuff), Part 6 Lupin also kinda isnt that good, i dont know how it was received in Japan but from my circles it is kinda the weakest part.

Plus, the part 6 designs aren't particularly unique. As across the board they are all pretty standard for the cast, with the only unique factors being Lupin's  specific color combo and Fujiko's catsuit. And even then Fujiko has been using those types of catsuits for a loooong time now so thats not really a factor either

 

[jigendaisuke2014]

In addition to the Part 5 designs being the more iconic versions (blue jacket has basically become the new default for modern stuff), Part 6 Lupin also kinda isnt that good, i dont know how it was received in Japan but from my circles it is kinda the weakest part.

Plus, the part 6 designs aren't particularly unique. As across the board they are all pretty standard for the cast, with the only unique factors being Lupin's  specific color combo and Fujiko's catsuit. And even then Fujiko has been using those types of catsuits for a loooong time now so thats not really a factor either

I actually mess with the skin tones in Part VI, given Part V made them all pale as a ghost (despite Part V being my favourite part). But yeah, that's probably the only thing good about Part VI's designs. I think TMS made the right call in making Part V's designs the default of the modern era (although I think they use a combination of Part IV and V for Fujiko and a combination of Part V and Part VI for Zenigata).

It would fit so well if Heiwa ends up making a Koike-inspired Panchiko machine, as Koike's designs are way better, high-octane and more fitting as a whole to the manga as evil and gambling go together .

Also I'm really hoping the Immortal Bloodline releases tomorrow because that "Release date coming soon" icon is still there when I go over to Prime and it concerns me. I really can't wait to watch this movie again.

 

[jigendaisuke2014]

I actually mess with the skin tones in Part VI, given Part V made them all pale as a ghost (despite Part V being my favourite part). But yeah, that's probably the only thing good about Part VI's designs. I think TMS made the right call in making Part V's designs the default of the modern era (although I think they use a combination of Part IV and V for Fujiko and a combination of Part V and Part VI for Zenigata).

It would fit so well if Heiwa ends up making a Koike-inspired Panchiko machine, as Koike's designs are way better, high-octane and more fitting as a whole to the manga as evil and gambling go together .

Also I'm really hoping the Immortal Bloodline releases tomorrow because that "Release date coming soon" icon is still there when I go over to Prime and it concerns me. I really can't wait to watch this movie again.

The Immortal Bloodline WILL release tomorrow! Finally!

 

[Gonzalo]

I finally got to see Immortal Bloodline is genuinely peak, I wonder when it will be indexed in profiles

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

When I get to it, I'm the only one who does these and the Immortal Bloodline comes with new profiles alongside all the other movie updates

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

Immortal Bloodline finally came out so now I can actually progress with Lupin profiles.

If you want an idea of what I've been hyping up for the past half a year or so...... well here you go. Lupin III somehow survived.... WHATEVER THE HELL THAT WAS!

 

[Stefano4444]

Immortal Bloodline finally came out so now I can actually progress with Lupin profiles.

If you want an idea of what I've been hyping up for the past half a year or so...... well here you go. Lupin III somehow survived.... WHATEVER THE HELL THAT WAS!

What kind of ****** up nuclear explosion its that?! Its looks like the time when Gogeta and Broly broken dimensions with their punches.

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

What kind of ****** up nuclear explosion its that?! Its looks like the time when Gogeta and Broly broken dimensions with their punches.

So, all that we know for a fact from this is that it's "Dr. Mullherts new theory" and that it's "a 4-D Drive Engine".

And, I'm going to be honest here, I found NO INFO ON EITHER OF THESE THINGS. So I am physically incapable of categorizing any of this beyond the pure visuals of it.

Which is to say.... yeah its time to kill the "At most" rating for the verse. We literally just saw an island with Lupin on it get erased from existence and he lived, the 3rd 'black hole' is more than enough to justify the ratings. (Btw, for added context, Lupin at this point was damn near blind, deaf, and had all of his other senses dulled to hell. So there's no shot he ran out of that blast radius for the like 30 or so minutes of leeway he'd get at best)

 

[jigendaisuke2014]

So, all that we know for a fact from this is that it's "Dr. Mullherts new theory" and that it's "a 4-D Drive Engine".

And, I'm going to be honest here, I found NO INFO ON EITHER OF THESE THINGS. So I am physically incapable of categorizing any of this beyond the pure visuals of it.

Which is to say.... yeah its time to kill the "At most" rating for the verse. We literally just saw an island with Lupin on it get erased from existence and he lived, the 3rd 'black hole' is more than enough to justify the ratings. (Btw, for added context, Lupin at this point was damn near blind, deaf, and had all of his other senses dulled to hell. So there's no shot he ran out of that blast radius for the like 30 or so minutes of leeway he'd get at best)

Yeah, I agree with getting rid of the "At most" island level, along with the fact that Muom is practically made of the island itself, as Lupin and the others can take multiple hits from him and live.

Also, I think Jigen's range increased when he nearly nailed Yael from across the ritual (by the smoke in the 5th picture) from his position across the way, even without using a scope. The question is how far? (Tens of Kilometers at most I'd say)

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

Also, I think Jigen's range increased when he nearly nailed Yael from across the ritual (the smoke) from his position across the way, even without using a scope. The question is how far? (Tens of Kilometers at most I'd say)

While Jigen and co's range has increased because of Yael, without calculations we cannot give it tens of kilometers.

Most impressive thing off rip is Yael sniping the plane out of the air and Jigen knowing that only he would've been able to snipe a plane like that from the island. The specific plane type has a max height of 5.88 kilometers, definite improvement from Zora's one kilometer status but nothing yet for a new category

 

[Stefano4444]

So, all that we know for a fact from this is that it's "Dr. Mullherts new theory" and that it's "a 4-D Drive Engine".

So Universal+ Lupin III, nice.

 

[Gonzalo]

Why Lupin has a crossover with Evangelion

 

[jigendaisuke2014]

Why Lupin has a crossover with Evangelion

Lmao, that's my post. And it's technically not a crossover, it's used as an ad for separate Pachinko machines. But I still find it unreal to see the two of them together for a media piece.

 

[Gonzalo]

Lmao, that's my post. And it's technically not a crossover, it's used as an ad for separate Pachinko machines. But I still find it unreal to see the two of them together for a media piece.

It amazing

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

Lmao, that's my post. And it's technically not a crossover, it's used as an ad for separate Pachinko machines. But I still find it unreal to see the two of them together for a media piece.

Wouldn't be the first time I've seen evangelion and Lupin in the same room

 

[jigendaisuke2014]

RIP Yuji Ohno

 

[jigendaisuke2014]

Conan and Precure have a surprising crossover soon... and apparently one of the protags gets hit by Conan's tranquillizer dart. And it worked?!?! Idk what the scaling is for Precure, but Zenigata can walk off Conan's dart... (the crossover didn't release yet, so maybe they do walk off the dart. But if it worked effectively... then maybe increase Zenigata's endurance? )

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

I did a thing

 

[Fireld]

My reaction to that!

Didn't misrepresent his rep AND made a reference to that LMFAO!

Forgot to say this last time, those voice performances were so spot on!

 

[Antonio_Lovato]

Guys, i have seen some pages and i think that lupin scaling should be divided by the different franchise entries atleast for one off characters, yael having ftl reactions is insane when he proceeds to barely dodge a bullet thrown by jigen from a huge distance in inmortal bloodline and we know he is only able to match jigen's quickdraw speed it being 0,3 seconds canonically

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

Guys, i have seen some pages and i think that lupin scaling should be divided by the different franchise entries atleast for one off characters, yael having ftl reactions is insane when he proceeds to barely dodge a bullet thrown by jigen from a huge distance in inmortal bloodline and we know he is only able to match jigen's quickdraw speed it being 0,3 seconds canonically

It's physically impossible to do so as the series connects itself in contradictory ways. Hell your own example can't work since Yael is tied to the Mamo events of the franchise, which famously has Lupin doing a laser feat meaning he'd be FAR above any calc you'd find reasonable. The cast is just consistently inconsistent, with them going from one scene to another treating small building level attacks as unbeatable to just comically tanking a much bigger one.

The only way to divide them is to have clear cut off points that's recognized by the franchise, however that doesn't exist. And trying to split it by chronological years is also impossible and redundant since The First is, unironically, one of the earliest points in the series resulting in every possible version having a black hole and FTL feat plus the fact that most of the series is in non-descript times. With Lupin Zero, the earliest version of the character also having a FTL feat which further makes it impossible to separate the stats in any meaningful way.

TLDR: Trying to separate versions of the characters goes against the spirit of the franchise and ultimately doesn't change nearly enough of things to warrant such a forceful change.

 

[Antonio_Lovato]

I mean i think there are pretty clear cut off points we can accept like the koike movies being there own canon which do connect to mamo as you mentioned, the manga is also its own thing, most anime series are also seemingly not connected, cagliostro also seems unrelated to the rest of the franchise since its implied to be an older lupin's last adventure, twcfm is probably a prequel to part 1.

Its just kind of ridiculous to want to put all of these characters in one bag like ofcourse theres bound to be some inconsistencies but were forcing all lupin feats into all scaling which causes more inconsistencies than the series by themselves do. Like again in inmortal bloodline jigen gets his bones broken by falling multiple meters off a ship i dont think its fair to say that jigen is as island level as the one from the tv specials

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

I mean i think there are pretty clear cut off points we can accept like the koike movies being there own canon which do connect to mamo as you mentioned, the manga is also its own thing, most anime series are also seemingly not connected, cagliostro also seems unrelated to the rest of the franchise since its implied to be an older lupin's last adventure, twcfm is probably a prequel to part 1.

The koike movies lead directly to Mystery of Mamo, which is directly seen and referenced in Part 5

The manga is seperate however that's due to a bunch of factors including a large chunk of it just being remade into TMS format

Most anime series is just implied to be connected with no distinct cut off points, with countless movies, TV Specials, manga, TV Parts, hell even pachinko machines having at least some amount of evidence where there are some direct reference to a thing or two in that section.

Cagliostro is also directly referenced and seen in Part 5, alongside being seen in other pieces of media like Green vs Red in other manners.

TWCFM is a prequel to part 1 and is likely also connected to the Koike films

The franchise treats everything as applicable, the only cut off points that exist are fan made and aren't used for canon reasons. It's widely accepted that the franchise doesn't follow any typical canon, and if we followed that line of logic to a T and separate everything then we'd have 500 different Lupins running around. The profiles act as a composite of the characters since that's how the companies/copyright holders treat them, which acts as the most straightforward way of treating the cast without just copying and pasting profiles over and over again since most 'versions' of the cast have no real differences with each other.

Hell, even with just Koike films things don't change much since we have the Mamo laser feat and Lupin surviving the black hole at the end of Immortal Bloodline. It's basically just trying to separate things only to keep them separate because someone else directed the films. (Which would also create 500 different Lupins since the franchise has been made by so many different people)

 

[Stefano4444]

Guys, i have seen some pages and i think that lupin scaling should be divided by the different franchise entries atleast for one off characters

Lupin III its one of those series where there you can't trully have a distinct canon version due of the very episodic nature of the franchise more akin to Tom & Jerry.

Everything from Part 1 to Part 6 its canon considering how many events and characters are constantly mentioned over the years and the same can be apply to the majority of Movies, Specials and OVAs as they are also be mention in the Anime series, and because there its no direct contradiction. Even stuff like The Woman Called Fujiko Mine and Koike Movies despite the more serious tone are connected due of the presence of Mamo, not a different version but exactly the same.

If anything the Pachinko Machines are the only section where its canonicity its questionable, while the OG Manga its just far too different even in term of personalities of the characters.