Madness Combat: High 8-C Upgrade

[Comiphorous]

This was originally going to be apart of SoL speed upgrade and Sanford and Deimos profile update, but that's taking a bit more time than i thought so I'm just going to apply this fairly straight forward thing. This calc was accepted, so it's just applying it. This scales to every current 8-C in the verse due to Hank being able to take down Mag Bandit on his own, (And Sanford/Deimos later would kill Mag-Bandit) and every 8-C in the verse scales to him. This doesn't change their likely 8-A rating.


new justification would be;

Large Building level (Comparable to Hank J. Wimbleton, who could fight and defeat Mag-Bandit who did this)



Agree: Mr. Bambu (signs off on it, but wants to discuss the consistency of the rating)

Disagree:

 

[Mephistus]

N is for no survivors

 

[Keeweed]

This feat adds alot of consistency too so I am glad to see this.

 

[Comiphorous]

This feat adds alot of consistency too so I am glad to see this.

It was a matter of time. Large Building level is where i estimated they'd be after i was done overhauling everyone. High 8-C is pretty comfortably where they should be.

 

[Employe]

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[CitRusReality64]

please try to get the building being thrown feat tricky did with the Drive re calculated and accepted

 

[Mr. Bambu]

My impression of this verse is that it's probably not consistently High 8-C- or, at least, that many characters are not consistently on this level (not to speak of 8-A). I would be curious to see things like anti-feats- times where they struggled to do feats of a lower caliber. It's been some time since I consumed it and thus my memories are a bit lacking. Still.

For now, this is above board and I'll sign off on it, pending some further prodding at the ratings.

 

[Comiphorous]

My impression of this verse is that it's probably not consistently High 8-C- or, at least, that many characters are not consistently on this level (not to speak of 8-A). I would be curious to see things like anti-feats- times where they struggled to do feats of a lower caliber. It's been some time since I consumed it and thus my memories are a bit lacking. Still.

For actually struggling to to do feats, they don't really ever struggle to pull of what they do (Tricky, Jesus, and Mag-Bandit's feats are almost always done very casually and without issue. Hank Sanford and Deimos never really struggle to do any feats besides Hank pre-MC 5 who is depicted A LOT weaker than his infamous self)

The only real big anti-feats that come off the top of my head are a couple durability issues, such as these.

Hank is heavily injured by this train crash

Deimos is incapacitated by this car crash

There's probably more, but these are the ones i immediately could recall that are damning to where they currently stand.

 

[AyOgUyS]

agree

 

[CitRusReality64]

I Agree by the way

 

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[Delusionaltx2]

Since I finished the main madness combat series (up to the part where deismos and sandford becomes the new MCs) I think I agree on the calc itself at least

Regarding the inconsistencies though I'd like to ask if the incidents are cannon? If so there might be a bit more there to look out for (I do remember things like a mag bandit being able to mid diff post apotheosis hank and base tricky killing MAG hank)

 

[Comiphorous]

Regarding the inconsistencies though I'd like to ask if the incidents are cannon? If so there might be a bit more there to look out for (I do remember things like a mag bandit being able to mid diff post apotheosis hank and base tricky killing MAG hank)

Incidents are very much not canon, they're just fun random episodes that don't have any relevance to the actual series.

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Incidents are very much not canon, they're just fun random episodes that don't have any relevance to the actual series.

Alright then, you have my vote if nothing else

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Oh yeah I'd like to ask regarding the justifications wouldn't it be easier if we worded it like this on hanks profile

Hank: "Defeated a MAG bandit"

For people to find the feat they should just go to the MAG bandits profile and find the feat listed there especially since the MAG bandit is what preforms the feat here while Hank kinda just scales

 

[Comiphorous]

Oh yeah I'd like to ask regarding the justifications wouldn't it be easier if we worded it like this on hanks profile

Hank: "Defeated a MAG bandit"

For people to find the feat they should just go to the MAG bandits profile and find the feat listed there especially since the MAG bandit is what preforms the feat here while Hank kinda just scales

Yeah, obviously for hank it'd just say he defeated mag bandit. characters like deimos and sanford who later fought mag bandit also would just say they fought and defeated him too. The justification in OP is specifically for characters who hadn't interacted with Mag Bandit and simply scale to Hank one way or another.

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Yeah, obviously for hank it'd just say he defeated mag bandit. characters like deimos and sanford who later fought mag bandit also would just say they fought and defeated him too. The justification in OP is specifically for characters who hadn't interacted with Mag Bandit and simply scale to Hank one way or another.

In that case to avoid the unnecessary wording I feel like just saying their comparable and putting either a link or a reference like what's been done with the rest of the cast should be fine

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Oh yeah while we're at it shouldn't PA hank gain a resistance to electricity for tanking electricity from Jesus only to get up moments later?

 

[Comiphorous]

In that case to avoid the unnecessary wording I feel like just saying their comparable and putting either a link or a reference like whats been done with the rest of the cast should be fine

most will get that. pages are just outdated. having both doesn't hurt though.

Oh yeah while we're at it shouldn't PA hank gain a resistance to electricity for tanking electricity from Jesus only to get up moments later?

I want to handle Hank's profile at another time, since next time i'm touching his profile i'm probably adding some tier 1 stuff to it.

 

[Comiphorous]

Also, just like to quickly address High 8-C consistency;

Besides several durability issues when it comes to bullets and vehicle crashes, (but what verse doesn't have these issues?) they're generally consistently in that tier 8 range. Mag Bandit himself already has an 8-C feat he pulled off after being beaten half to death by Hank, and then later pulls off the High 8-C feat after recovering from his fight with Hank.

Other characters such as Tricky and Hoffnar are consistently in the tier 8 range as well. although the calc hasn't been accepted, Tricky simply burrowing through the ground has been calced to be around 8-C as well. (I myself have made a similar calc for tricky's burrowing here and got similar 8-C values, no blog post though. might go back and redo it to put it in a blog post just to have it on record)

8-C to High 8-C is also just obviously a single tier jump, and with the amount casual/weakened 8-C feats it should be fine to use.

 

[Employe]

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[Employe]

Also, adding to what already has been said, characters here really don't have any palpable anti-feats to suggest that they are only wall level (for example) and not tier 8 in terms of pure raw strength. Furthermore, all feats were performed relatively casually, so, unless you have issues with reliability of said feats in the first question, then I don't see why they can't be used for scaling.

 

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