Magolor vs Android 21

[Eficiente]

I just saw the story mode. It's so much better than marvel vs capcom infinite...

Magolor Soul: 4 (The real cal howard, Cropfist, EMagoIorSouI, Random1201)

Android 21: 3 (Errorsaness, Theglassman12, Sceptilespy)

Inconclusive: 1(?) (DMB 1)


Outlier


Android 21

 

[DMB_1]

I don't know for now. Either the Magolor uses Mind Control or time travel, or 21 uses "T H E W A V E S".

Also, does Magolor have resistance to transmutation, like Kirby?

 

[Akreious]

The new meme: Android 21 via WAVES

 

[Kirby71]

In our old times we used to say: janemba via speed and hax.

 

[Eficiente]

Considering what happened in Kirby vs 21 I'm not sure if she can use that. In any case Magolor's time travel isn't combat applicable and he hasn't resistance to transmutation.

 

[Akreious]

There was literally only 2-3 people that said Kirby would win against many. I don't want to call anyone out, but those people vastly underestimate the effectiveness and 21's willingness to use her waves.

 

[Errorsaness]

I Vote android 21 because Regenerationn

 

[Errorsaness]

See the final fight of idk vs 21 she regenerated

 

[Eficiente]

@Akreious The thread was closed beyond my power, and I'm pretty sure that it will remain that way, sorry. You can make a thread to talk about the waves if you want.

@Errorsaness Ok, but please elaborate.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Waves are useless here. Magolor is already a sealed consciousness possessed by another at this point.

 

[Akreious]

And soul sealing as well as sleep inducement? (Goku was unconscious until the player's soul woke him) what about stat weakening Cal?

 

[Schnee_One]

<No resistance to memory Manipulation

Android 21 throws her waves

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Sleep manipulation is literally an aspect of the soul sealing. You might as well give anyone who can mess with souls sleep manipulation then.

 

[Assaltwaffle]

If what Cal is saying is true and Magolor does indeed resist the waves, he wins easy. If not, then 21 probably takes this.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

<No resistance to memory Manipulation
Android 21 throws her waves

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0a5WyAjL1MM

 

[Schnee_One]

Sleep and Soul he resists.

Memory Manipulation....Not so much.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Isnt the memory mnip a byproduct of soul manip tho?

 

[Akreious]

No. There's literally no indication of that. As far as the game is treated and concerned, it's all seperate abilities. If the Soul Manipulation was the same as the memory manipulation that was put on krillin, his soul would be sealed away. Which it isn't.

 

[Theglassman12]

21 should take this for the reasons stated above.

 

[Eficiente]

Okey, but this is how this thread went so far:

>I don't know for now. Either Magolor uses Mind Control or time travel, or 21 uses "T H E W A V E S".

>No time travel, the waves are debatable

>21 because Regenerationn

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Explain the memory hax better, because I seriously doubt it's how it's being described. From what I see, it's no different than anything else where a person is incapacitated and they're in a blur.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Regardless, good luck having memory hax affect a Crown.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

T H E W A V E S I S T H E N E W J A N E M B A S P E E D H A X

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

My vote is that Magolor leaves a gaping hole in space where 21 used to be.

 

[Schnee_One]

21 uses the Waves

The Waves erase memories.

And it being a crown means nothing.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

The non-sentient thing with no memories to be erased is done in by low tier memory hax at best that makes recent events a blur.

 

[Schnee_One]

<Non-Sentient

Where?

And what memories? The ones that it needs to think? And to act?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Krillin was still a perfectly capable being after getting "mind haxxed"

Bottom line is I don't believe in the slightest that this memory hax is useful, especially because one, it only apparently affected Krillin when literally everyone else was exposed to the waves, two, Krillin needed to be rescued from the waves and still got sleep'd, and three, Krillin didn't need to regain memories.

 

[Schnee_One]

Okay, what do you mean by the first sentence, because to my knowledge, you being a capable being afterwards does not in any way entrail how good Mind Hax is, unless you want to say Luke's Mind Hax is bad because the people are still capable after wards.

That would give the rest resistance, like with literally 95% of hax ever.

<Needed to be rescued from the waves and still got sleep'd

That kinda helps support waves being useful. But of course, sleep is meaningless

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I'll respond after I play the game instead of watch cutscenes.

 

[Akreious]

On another note, pretty good Dragon Ball fighting game. Dare I say one of the best as of recent times

 

[Kirby71]

I Vote android 21 because Regenerationn

Regenerationn doesnt work here.

In this battle, is hax or be haxed.

 

[Kirby71]

Also,manipulating a crown with the waves doesnt seems to work.

 

[Sceptilespy]

Android 21 via Power Null, Transmutation, Power mimicry, and overall being able to outhax Magolor. Also, Her Regenerationn basically beats Magolor alone since Magolor has nothing to stop it.

 

[Cropfist]

Magolor for reasons above.

 

[Kirby71]

Android 21 via Power Null, Transmutation, Power mimicry, and overall being able to outhax Magolor. Also, Her Regenerationn basically beats Magolor alone since Magolor has nothing to stop it.

>Magolor has nothing to stop it.

Have you ever read comments from above?

Also >Her Regenerationn beats magolor alone.

Wut???????? Hax exists.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Magolor has the same regen...

 

[Sceptilespy]

Android 21 via Power Null, Transmutation, Power mimicry, and overall being able to outhax Magolor. Also, Her Regenerationn basically beats Magolor alone since Magolor has nothing to stop it.

>Magolor has nothing to stop it.

Have you ever read comments from above?

Also >Her Regenerationn beats magolor alone.

Wut???????? Hax exists.

Name Magolor's counter hax to Regenerationn.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

spatial manipulation, BFR, mind control, reality warping, black hole creation...

 

[Sceptilespy]

spatial manipulation, BFR, mind control, reality warping, black hole creation...

Power Nulled. She also becomes stronger in the middle of combat.