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Cid Kagenou vs Naruto (Birth of the Ten-Tails’ Jinchūriki - Kurama Sage Mode)
Rules:

  • Speed is equalised.
  • Starting Distance: 10 meters
  • Location: Abandoned City
  • No one has prep time
  • Both have no prior knowledge
  • Cid's AP: 1.727 Gigatons, 2,15 Gigatons with damage boost, 141 Petatons with I AM ATOMIC (one shots btw)
  • Naruto's AP: 100 Teratons (one shots)
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Cid's advantages:
  • More Skilled
  • Better IQ
  • Better BIQ
  • One shots with I AM ATOMIC
  • Higher Range
  • Better mobility
  • Better techniques
  • Perception Speed
  • More versatile in the use of weapons
  • Luck
Shadow -
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Naruto's advantages:

  • One shots
  • Higher LS?
  • More experienced
  • More techniques
  • More haxed
  • Higher Stamina
Jinchūriki -
 
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I know little about Naruto but it's either Naruto manages to hit Cid or Cid stops playing around and IAAs Naruto to dust. Stamina has little to do in this fight, at a certain point (minutes at most) Cid will IAA, assuming they stalemate prior, so it goes down if Naruto can hit Cid before that.

Cid on his side has OP Info An which allows him to AnPr attacks just by watching the opponent standing in front of him, even attacks he had no prior knowledge about, and the more the fight goes on the less Naruto is likely to hit him given Cid will keep improving gaining more and more understanding of Naruto alongside refining his responses to Naruto's actions.

EDIT: Cid even has slow motion perception up to x1000 times his own speed, Naruto will likely appear frozen to Cid
 
Naruto should have superior analytic prediction since he can side step the sharingan and rinnegans future based precognition and has kurama negative emotions sensing and all the sage mode sensory abilities that allows him sense his opponents power level, chakra and prediction movement by sensing the disturbances in nature energy surrounding cid, as well as fluctuation in his life force

Naruto win cons are

1.Speed blitz with shunshin

2.passive Fear and Madness manipulation (type 2) aura since nards trying to kill him

3.Can wirelessly transfer kurama chakra onto cid without him noticing, since nards chakra is mixed with nature energy which is undetectable to normal folks. Kurama chakra is corrosive and poisonous to anyone that touches it. And since Kurama chakra is mixed with nature energy, cid turns into a frog and then into stone

4. Possession with Kurama chakra, nard can wireless transfer kurama chakra and then using that chakra kurama can take control of cid

5. Frog kata, when naruto gets close to do h2h, cid would not expect naruto to extend his attacks with nature energy and wouldn’t be able to sense it because he can’t sense nature energy. Naruto can also ignores durability with nature energy

6.Cellular durability negation with Rasenshuriken

All this and Naruto can spam clones that can do the same. I vote for Naruto
 
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I know little about Naruto but it's either Naruto manages to hit Cid or Cid stops playing around and IAAs Naruto to dust. Stamina has little to do in this fight, at a certain point (minutes at most) Cid will IAA, assuming they stalemate prior, so it goes down if Naruto can hit Cid before that.
I've seen a Video of IAA cast time. Can he do it faster than what's portrayed? Because that can be an issue for Cid.
Cid on his side has OP Info An which allows him to AnPr attacks just by watching the opponent standing in front of him, even attacks he had no prior knowledge about, and the more the fight goes on the less Naruto is likely to hit him given Cid will keep improving gaining more and more understanding of Naruto alongside refining his responses to Naruto's actions.
What does "AnPr" stand for? Is it some sort of Pre-Cog? Because Naruto here has 2 types of Pre-Cog. Negative Emotion/Intent Sensing which allows him to anticipate and react to attacks and has a lesser Danger Sense ability than Sage Mode, but also SM Sensory Capabilities, which act as Pseudo Spider-Sense when it comes to Danger Sensing and Attack Reaction (Databook States: "By turning into Sage Mode, the user reaches the point of being able to take in natural energy, and the power of perception is expanded. With it, you can sense the movements of the opponent to the point of releasing an intense counterattack that matches the enemy's attack" [And for Ref. This is the Manga Statement on Danger Sense [Also this is his Chakra Mode Sensory]]).

Also, a big Issue Cid has to deal with is Frog Kata. Naruto's h2h combat has expanded range, so even if he misses, his attacks will still land at melee range and with his Avatar, his range is further expanded.

And Chakra Roars are an issue here as well. Let me give you an example of his Chakra Roars: VoTE 1 / Tenchi-Bridge / Vs Orochimaru / Vs Biju. So as you can see, they have a Variable Range.
EDIT: Cid even has slow motion perception up to x1000 times his own speed, Naruto will likely appear frozen to Cid
Does that enhance his Combat or Travel speed though? I can see that being a good for Reaction and Analytical purposes, but outside of that, he will still be subject to Naruto's pre-cog.
 
Naruto should have superior analytic prediction since he can side step the sharingan and rinnegans future based precognition and has kurama negative emotions sensing and all the sage mode sensory abilities that allows him sense his opponents power level, chakra and prediction movement by sensing the disturbances in nature energy surrounding cid, as well as fluctuation in his life force

Naruto win cons are

1.Speed blitz with shunshin
Speed is meaningless against Cid, He can predict attacks even if they blitz him
2.passive Fear and Madness manipulation (type 2) aura since nards trying to kill him
He doesn't have this on his profile, so it's unusable
3.Can wirelessly transfer kurama chakra onto cid without him noticing, since nards chakra is mixed with nature energy which is undetectable to normal folks. Kurama chakra is corrosive and poisonous to anyone that touches it. And since Kurama chakra is mixed with nature energy, cid turns into a frog and then into stone
This works i think
4. Possession with Kurama chakra, nard can wireless transfer kurama chakra and then using that chakra kurama can take control of cid
Same here, but naruto doesnt start with this iirc, nor does he for the ability above?
5. Frog kata, when naruto gets close to do h2h, cid would not expect naruto to extend his attacks with nature energy and wouldn’t be able to sense it because he can’t sense nature energy. Naruto can also ignores durability with nature energy
Cid has Instinctive reaction for that
6.Cellular durability negation with Rasenshuriken
Easily dodgable with ANPR and perception hax
All this and Naruto can spam clones that can do the same. I vote for Naruto
Clones are meaningless too, since most of the time all of the clones just stand there waiting for their turn
 
I've seen a Video of IAA cast time. Can he do it faster than what's portrayed? Because that can be an issue for Cid.
He takes few seconds, and even then, Naruto hitting Cid is extremely unlikely due to Cid's ANPR
What does "AnPr" stand for? Is it some sort of Pre-Cog? Because Naruto here has 2 types of Pre-Cog. Negative Emotion/Intent Sensing which allows him to anticipate and react to attacks and has a lesser Danger Sense ability than Sage Mode, but also SM Sensory Capabilities, which act as Pseudo Spider-Sense when it comes to Danger Sensing and Attack Reaction (Databook States: "By turning into Sage Mode, the user reaches the point of being able to take in natural energy, and the power of perception is expanded. With it, you can sense the movements of the opponent to the point of releasing an intense counterattack that matches the enemy's attack" [And for Ref. This is the Manga Statement on Danger Sense [Also this is his Chakra Mode Sensory]]).
Emotion detecting is useless against Cid, considering Cid can attack with no bloodlust
Also, a big Issue Cid has to deal with is Frog Kata. Naruto's h2h combat has expanded range, so even if he misses, his attacks will still land at melee range and with his Avatar, his range is further expanded.
Cid has instinctive reaction
And Chakra Roars are an issue here as well. Let me give you an example of his Chakra Roars: VoTE 1 / Tenchi-Bridge / Vs Orochimaru / Vs Biju. So as you can see, they have a Variable Range.
Dodgable and predictable with ANPR and perception hax which is 1000x boost according to Zefra
Does that enhance his Combat or Travel speed though? I can see that being a good for Reaction and Analytical purposes, but outside of that, he will still be subject to Naruto's pre-cog.
Just perception iirc
 
I would like to mention that if Cid really pulls IAA, It's an insta win for him given the attack is Sub-Rel and can cover more than what Naruto can with speed equalized (but everyone prob already knows that)
 
Naruto should have superior analytic prediction since he can side step the sharingan and rinnegans future based precognition
I have no idea what it means to side step a future based precognition nor I see any form of precognition/AnPr on the linked profile.
and has kurama negative emotions sensing and all the sage mode sensory abilities that allows him sense his opponents power level, chakra and prediction movement by sensing the disturbances in nature energy surrounding cid.
Same here, I dont see info analysis on his profile. Even if, low tiers in The Eminence in Shadow can know the power level of people either by analysis,/intuition/sensing magic, Cid has resistance to all these forms.
1.Speed blitz with shunshin
Cid dealt with blitz worth attacks in several occasions, either when he wasn't using magic and yet he faced opponent who could use it or when he kept up with an entire danmaku of mach 1 attacks (343 m/s) while he was walking (1-2 m/s).
2.passive Fear and Madness manipulation (type 2) aura since nards trying to kill him
where is in the profile?
3.Can wirelessly transfer kurama chakra onto cid without him noticing, since nards chakra is mixed with nature energy which is undetectable to normal folks. Kurama chakra is corrosive and poisonous to anyone that touches it. And since Kurama chakra is mixed with nature energy, cid turns into a frog and then into stone
what do you mean by "normal folks", Cid can percieve magic easily even from distance
4. Possession with Kurama chakra, nard can wireless transfer kurama chakra and then using that chakra kurama can take control of cid

5. Frog kata, when naruto gets close to do h2h, cid would not expect naruto to extend his attacks with nature energy and wouldn’t be able to sense it because he can’t sense nature energy. Naruto can also ignores durability with nature energy
can I know where these hax are listen on the profile (or at least scans)? cause i have little knowledge about Naruto and it's hard for me to reply not precisely knowing what you are talking about.




I've seen a Video of IAA cast time. Can he do it faster than what's portrayed? Because that can be an issue for Cid.
He needs a bit of time to charge it up, yeah, but he can easily do it while fighting. Also sometimes he spends times making a cool speech before doing it, he doesn't really need to do it technically.
What does "AnPr" stand for?
analytical prediction, sorry
Is it some sort of Pre-Cog?
He is tremendously good at predicting attacks, it's not outright seeing into the future; it doesn't necessarily mean than any precognition is better than his analytical prediction, keep that in mind.
Because Naruto here has 2 types of Pre-Cog. Negative Emotion/Intent Sensing which allows him to anticipate and react to attacks and has a lesser Danger Sense ability than Sage Mode, but also SM Sensory Capabilities, which act as Pseudo Spider-Sense when it comes to Danger Sensing and Attack Reaction (Databook States: "By turning into Sage Mode, the user reaches the point of being able to take in natural energy, and the power of perception is expanded. With it, you can sense the movements of the opponent to the point of releasing an intense counterattack that matches the enemy's attack" [And for Ref. This is the Manga Statement on Danger Sense [Also this is his Chakra Mode Sensory]]).
So basically this spider sense helps him anticipating attacks. I don't think it's better than Cid though, he can outpredict an entire danmaku made by three different opponents (scans above), I think both have their own way to predict/react to attacks, Cid just applied it to tougher situations, unless naruto has better feats.

Also Cid can sense things like bloodlust as well, he can even erase him from his attacks to the point his attacks are described as natural and people can't pick them up regardless of analytical prediction or sensory abilities, honestly I believe Cid can bypass Naruto's sensory hax, you can check his resistances and tell me if I'm wrong.
Also, a big Issue Cid has to deal with is Frog Kata. Naruto's h2h combat has expanded range, so even if he misses, his attacks will still land at melee range and with his Avatar, his range is further expanded.
Does this mean Naruto has an "invisible" higher range? Also Cid should be able to info analyze his range, he did against Aurora, he just saw her standing there and realized the range of her magic, Cid didn't ever experienced or knew that magic prior that fight. But even if he can't properly evade those attacks he just needs to do what he did against Oliver, Oliver could both blitz and one shot him, Cid was able to keep up with her by avoiding suffering fatal damage despite suffering the attacks eventually winning.
And Chakra Roars are an issue here as well. Let me give you an example of his Chakra Roars: VoTE 1 / Tenchi-Bridge / Vs Orochimaru / Vs Biju. So as you can see, they have a Variable Range.
So AoE attacks? Yes, they are big issue for Cid, but does Naruto starts with them as first move? Also, Cid should be capable of reading those moves, still using his feat against Aurora I mentioned above. I believe he will realize how dangerous Naruto is and therefore he will pull out IAA as soon as he can if he thinks it's necessary.

I would say Naruto takes if he starts with any of this as first move, if he doesn't, Cid will likely charge up IAA to end the fight before Naruto can pull out any of these.
Does that enhance his Combat or Travel speed though? I can see that being a good for Reaction and Analytical purposes, but outside of that, he will still be subject to Naruto's pre-cog.
No, it just boost his reaction/predictions as you said. I argued it to enchant Cid's reaction capabilities.
 
He takes few seconds, and even then, Naruto hitting Cid is extremely unlikely due to Cid's ANPR
Naruto has routinely fought against Sharingan Pre-Cog, which does the same innately and also goes further than what his ANPR is capable of. It's unlikely Cid is not going to be tagged by Naruto based on that alone.
Emotion detecting is useless against Cid, considering Cid can attack with no bloodlust
Irrelevant. His Intent can still be clocked and that is only one aspect of his Pre-Cog and the lesser of the two at that. SM Sensory abilities as well as the "overall" Chakra Mode Sensory doesn't rely on Emotion Sensing, I just wanted to be up front about all aspects, but that's not the primary aspect.
Cid has instinctive reaction
That's fine, but you cannot in good faith argue he's going to engage in any h2h or melee confrontation and consistently evade Frog Kara. On top of that, seeing as Nature Energy is Unseeable or Sensible by Cid (Let me know if I'm mistaken on this), how do you square his Instinctive Reaction helping him against something he can't perceive at any level.

Is there any comparable feat in series? It's not really the same as say, a knife cutting through the air, attacking him from behind or his Blind spot. You know?
Dodgable and predictable with ANPR and perception hax which is 1000x boost according to Zefra

Just perception iirc
If it's just perception, has he shown Blitzing out of an AoE ability? iirc, I didn't see teleportation on his profile.

It seems like the argument is, can Naruto tag before IAA is used, because with the AP advantage, he can't really do much here, no?
 
Nard can do the same and side step instinct reactions, cuz kurama chakra instinctively protects it users but nard characters can still h2h him. Cid does not have any feats that show him out predicting future based precognition while Naruto can.
He doesn't have this on his profile, so it's unusable
His profile is outdated, all high level shinobi have this passive, even fodder characters like Zabuza has this ability and nard is unfathomly higher then him in strength. Kurama also has this ability.
This works i think

Same here, but naruto doesnt start with this iirc, nor does he for the ability above?
He starts with clones, but he does have these win cons for use
Cid has Instinctive reaction for that
Same thing mentioned above
Easily dodgable with ANPR and perception hax
Nard has better perception hax

Nard can fight characters that have future based precognition and side step his cloaks instinctive reaction.

All shinobi can sense bloodlust, even kid Sasuke who was not even in shinobi academy can sense itachi bloodlust, let alone experienced Shinobi. And kurama chakra can sense negative emotions, not just bloodlust but negative emotions like hostility, fear and such.

In sage mode nard can has passive danger sensing which allows him to sense danger from even his blind spot so he can’t be taken by surprise. He can sense chakra which allows him to predict what his opponents moves/attacks are gonna be. Take characters by surprise that have 360 degrees vision.
Clones are meaningless too, since most of the time all of the clones just stand there waiting for their turn
Not true. Where did you even get that idea? Nard literally uses his clones insync with all his move-sets and combo. This is demonstrated in all his battles.
 
I have no idea what it means to side step a future based precognition nor I see any form of precognition/AnPr on the linked profile.
Just means he can fight and predict characters movements that have future based precognition
Same here, I dont see info analysis on his profile. Even if, low tiers in The Eminence in Shadow can know the power level of people either by analysis,/intuition/sensing magic, Cid has resistance to all these forms.
Nard profile is extremely out dated
where is in the profile?
Outdated profile, all shinobi have this ability. It’s part of their physiology
what do you mean by "normal folks", Cid can percieve magic easily even from distance
By normal folks I mean normal shinobi, they can see and sense chakra like how haku and zabuza sensed kurama chakra. But these folks can’t sense nature energy and only a sage mode user can.
can I know where these hax are listen on the profile (or at least scans)? cause i have little knowledge about Naruto and it's hard for me to reply not precisely knowing what you are talking about.
Frog kata, frog kumitia extends range and Possession can be found on hagoromo’s profile since his one is the most up to date
 
Naruto has routinely fought against Sharingan Pre-Cog, which does the same innately and also goes further than what his ANPR is capable of. It's unlikely Cid is not going to be tagged by Naruto based on that alone.
Nard can do the same and side step instinct reactions, cuz kurama chakra instinctively protects it users but nard characters can still h2h him. Cid does not have any feats that show him out predicting future based precognition while Naruto can.
Firstly, just because it's precognition it doesn't mean it's better than Analytical Prediction in any scenario. For example, characters with precognition might see the next attack of the opponent while an Analytical Prediction user can predict your next 5 attacks, in this case if we talk about what is better then the analytical prediction user has an advantage.

Can I know the best feat of prediction for the sharingan and the best feat Naruto has to counter said prediction? I'm asking because people can counter precognition by blitzing the opponent and similar reasons, so if we are going to talk if Naruto can keep up against Cid's analytical prediction we mus know what he actually does to counter it.
Is there any comparable feat in series? It's not really the same as say, a knife cutting through the air, attacking him from behind or his Blind spot. You know?
Rex, fodder compared to Cid, could instinctively predict an attack from Cid (before you reply on that, yes, he is still dimensions below Cid, Cid in that scene was using the shittiest fighting style he could pull out) even though he couldn't see Cid at all (blitz) (scan), also Cid showed to adapt to his instinctive reaction and hit him on the second attack. Also Beatrix has statements of being able to react to attacks even though she can't perceive them by using her experience, which in the verse context is instinctive reaction.

Just means he can fight and predict characters movements that have future based precognition
See above
It’s part of their physiology
Is there a page for this? If yes I would appreciate if you could send it to me. Otherwise I don't think we can use feats that aren't on the profile.
By normal folks I mean normal shinobi, they can see and sense chakra like how haku and zabuza sensed kurama chakra. But these folks can’t sense nature energy and only a sage mode user can.
What's the reason they can't percieve it?
Frog kata, frog kumitia extends range and Possession can be found on hagoromo’s profile since his one is the most up to date
Oh, I see, for range I replied above
Does this mean Naruto has an "invisible" higher range? Also Cid should be able to info analyze his range, he did against Aurora, he just saw her standing there and realized the range of her magic, Cid didn't ever experienced or knew that magic prior that fight. But even if he can't properly evade those attacks he just needs to do what he did against Oliver, Oliver could both blitz and one shot him, Cid was able to keep up with her by avoiding suffering fatal damage despite suffering the attacks eventually winning.

For possession, did at least Naruto used it on time?
 
He needs a bit of time to charge it up, yeah, but he can easily do it while fighting. Also sometimes he spends times making a cool speech before doing it, he doesn't really need to do it technically.
If he can do it while fighting, that's a issue for Naruto for sure.
analytical prediction, sorry

He is tremendously good at predicting attacks, it's not outright seeing into the future; it doesn't necessarily mean than any precognition is better than his analytical prediction, keep that in mind.
Of course. It's actually very good from what I read.
So basically this spider sense helps him anticipating attacks. I don't think it's better than Cid though, he can outpredict an entire danmaku made by three different opponents (scans above), I think both have their own way to predict/react to attacks, Cid just applied it to tougher situations, unless naruto has better feats.
Well, the Sensory abilities in regard to Precog seem to be comparable to Sharingan Pre-Cog, which at lower levels (1 & 2 Tomoe) gives the analytical prediction and the mature 3 Tomoe and MS gives legit pre-cog, allowing the user to see the opponents' movements, several steps ahead before they made them (This imo is the best showcase of this, when Naruto jumps at him and Sasuke See's him attack from behind despite being in midair before he moves). Then unlike the Sharingan, SM also gives Danger Sensory Abilities (Ala, Spider-Sense) and the Nine-Tails Chgakra gives him Intent Sensing.
Also Cid can sense things like bloodlust as well, he can even erase him from his attacks to the point his attacks are described as natural and people can't pick them up regardless of analytical prediction or sensory abilities, honestly I believe Cid can bypass Naruto's sensory hax, you can check his resistances and tell me if I'm wrong.
Erasing his "presence" from his attacks doesn't really erase his intent or the danger. NTM, the sensory abilities of Naruto sense more than just emotions and such. And based on the text, it's reads more as a skill issue rather than a supernatural issue, thus the comparison she makes of experience in a sword fight. She's looking at through the lens of, "Well, being in previous battles, you learn to be able to anticipate strikes, timing, movements etc", which is a statement of skill / experience rather than literal supernatural sensory capability. I don't see any way he's bypassing Naruto's sensory capabilities here. If it was just standard ANPR /Experience, sure... but this isn't that.
Does this mean Naruto has an "invisible" higher range? Also Cid should be able to info analyze his range, he did against Aurora, he just saw her standing there and realized the range of her magic, Cid didn't ever experienced or knew that magic prior that fight. But even if he can't properly evade those attacks he just needs to do what he did against Oliver, Oliver could both blitz and one shot him, Cid was able to keep up with her by avoiding suffering fatal damage despite suffering the attacks eventually winning.
Yes, but it's not simply invisible either. Nature Energy is a special energy that cannot be sensed, even in verse without Sage Mode training or already have Six Paths Chakra, etc. This is the energy Naruto is using as an invisible higher range. It's not the same as Magical Power or Chakra. And given the stats, he isn't tanking it if hit.
So AoE attacks? Yes, they are big issue for Cid, but does Naruto starts with them as first move?
Not necessarily. I was just pointing out what he has in his arsenal for the purposes of the fight. But he also has TBB and FRS that can expanded to a pretty decent size at the drop of a dime.
Also, Cid should be capable of reading those moves, still using his feat against Aurora I mentioned above. I believe he will realize how dangerous Naruto is and therefore he will pull out IAA as soon as he can if he thinks it's necessary.
Does he start with IAA though? Because while he has good defensive abilities and utility based abilities that make it hard to get him, he doesn't really have anything that says he can actually do anything outside of IAA to hurt Naruto. If he has to briefly engage with Naruto before determining to use IAA, he'd likely get tagged before. And the issue with IAA for Naruto I would argue is the same for Cid with TBB, and Naruto can fire it off faster.
I would say Naruto takes if he starts with any of this as first move, if he doesn't, Cid will likely charge up IAA to end the fight before Naruto can pull out any of these.
Between Frog Kata, TBB, FRS and Chakra Roars, I don't see Cid getting off IAA before he's tagged. And I'd argue Naruto is more likely to fire off a TBB before Cid charges his IAA. That's not to say anything of his Clone usage.
 
Firstly, just because it's precognition it doesn't mean it's better than Analytical Prediction in any scenario. For example, characters with precognition might see the next attack of the opponent while an Analytical Prediction user can predict your next 5 attacks, in this case if we talk about what is better then the analytical prediction user has an advantage.

Can I know the best feat of prediction for the sharingan and the best feat Naruto has to counter said prediction? I'm asking because people can counter precognition by blitzing the opponent and similar reasons, so if we are going to talk if Naruto can keep up against Cid's analytical prediction we mus know what he actually does to counter it.
The sharingan even in lesser forms like the two tome has information analysis which allows it to be able to “discern the reality behind any ability” be it ninjutsu, genjutsu or Taijutsu. In addition to that it can see clear images of its opponents next moves, as well as see the chakra in the body and predict via fluctuations in the chakra what moves his opponent is gonna do next.

yet nard is able to side step all this even as a child and go h2h with a more powerful version of the sharingan, like the rinnegan.
 
If he can do it while fighting, that's a issue for Naruto for sure.
Yeah, he also has insane multitasking, so while he does it he can perfectly keep up with the fight.
Well, the Sensory abilities in regard to Precog seem to be comparable to Sharingan Pre-Cog, which at lower levels (1 & 2 Tomoe) gives the analytical prediction and the mature 3 Tomoe and MS gives legit pre-cog, allowing the user to see the opponents' movements, several steps ahead before they made them (This imo is the best showcase of this, when Naruto jumps at him and Sasuke See's him attack from behind despite being in midair before he moves). Then unlike the Sharingan, SM also gives Danger Sensory Abilities (Ala, Spider-Sense) and the Nine-Tails Chgakra gives him Intent Sensing.
I see, it's good but I don't think it stands chances against keeping up with an entire danmaku.

Cid for instances was also able to read invisible attacks (I send the manga because the explanation it's easier but here's the LN) from a dude with a millenium of experience. A technique Cid was analyzing mid-fight, never saw it prior.
Erasing his "presence" from his attacks doesn't really erase his intent or the danger. NTM, the sensory abilities of Naruto sense more than just emotions and such. And based on the text, it's reads more as a skill issue rather than a supernatural issue, thus the comparison she makes of experience in a sword fight. She's looking at through the lens of, "Well, being in previous battles, you learn to be able to anticipate strikes, timing, movements etc", which is a statement of skill / experience rather than literal supernatural sensory capability. I don't see any way he's bypassing Naruto's sensory capabilities here. If it was just standard ANPR /Experience, sure... but this isn't that.
Yeah, I think explained it badly then, I meant it as a skill matter but... eh, perceiving blood lust is basically portrayed to be supernatural in Eminence In Shadow.
Here 2 instances of Cid perceiving blood lust without even looking, one and two, especially the first one, Cid was turned on the other side, it's straight up impossible to tell someone is emitting hostility/bloodlust/whatever with your back turned, he couldn't use any of his 5 senses therefore in Eminence In Shadow people have ways to supernaturally perceive it, even Alexia, low tier, can sense bloodlust, which was emitted by Cid.

Conclusion is, people in EIS can sense bloodlust, up to a supernatural way and, at least Cid, can even emit it, or even erasing it while fighting.
Yes, but it's not simply invisible either. Nature Energy is a special energy that cannot be sensed, even in verse without Sage Mode training or already have Six Paths Chakra, etc. This is the energy Naruto is using as an invisible higher range. It's not the same as Magical Power or Chakra. And given the stats, he isn't tanking it if hit.
That's fair, the problem is that when Cid did read Aurora's attack the only clues he had was her standing in front of him, he didn't see the attack in any way or form so it's not a matter of perceiving that energy, it's a matter that Cid can figure it out and eventually respond to it.

Also I didn't mean he could tank it, but I'm saying is that Cid can keep fighting until it hits a vital, Cid specifically mentions how he can keep fighting as long as his vitals are ok, AoE attacks counter this but as long as it's not AoE Cid can work it out and live. For instance other characters can fight for days while being extremely injured, Cid upscales. Point is, even if he Cid loses one arm, one leg or whatever he will keep fighting, he even has healing to due healing the same characters in the scan.
Not necessarily. I was just pointing out what he has in his arsenal for the purposes of the fight. But he also has TBB and FRS that can expanded to a pretty decent size at the drop of a dime.
Wow, the fight is who eventually drops the first nuke, cool.
Does he start with IAA though? Because while he has good defensive abilities and utility based abilities that make it hard to get him, he doesn't really have anything that says he can actually do anything outside of IAA to hurt Naruto. If he has to briefly engage with Naruto before determining to use IAA, he'd likely get tagged before. And the issue with IAA for Naruto I would argue is the same for Cid with TBB, and Naruto can fire it off faster.
No, he'll basically never start with IAA because he has to make a cool fight first. You can check the Standard Tactic section to understand more what I mean. There are times Cid won't even use magic to fight, just because he'll rely on his skills, while other times he is forced to output his maximum magic, it depends on the opponent. imo, against Naruto, if Cid decides he might actually die if he doesn't end the fight fast he will pull out IAA earlier on, if you check his profile you'll see he tends to adapt to his opponents. If Cid can compete with Naruto only with skills, he won't even use magic, if he needs to use his maximum magic then he will, if Naruto is so menacing that Cid needs to close the fight quickly, he might actually pull out IAA fast. Most "wanked" scenario, Cid figure out Naruto can one shot him and his AoE attacks from the first glance and uses IAA as first move as soon as it is charged.

Same argument can be made for Naruto, if Naruto sees he can't hit Cid he might use an AoE fast, which is gg for Cid. I think this side of the debate is a speculative. All I'll say on Cid side is that he seems to have better info Analysis so he might come to said conclusion faster than Naruto, but that's still speculative.
Between Frog Kata, TBB, FRS and Chakra Roars, I don't see Cid getting off IAA before he's tagged. And I'd argue Naruto is more likely to fire off a TBB before Cid charges his IAA. That's not to say anything of his Clone usage.
See above.

For the clones arguments, I'll argue Cid can easily keep up with different information while fighting, the best feat is probably when faced Millia, she threw over thousand of tendrils at Cid when he managed to avoid any fatal damage, i.e, he kept up with a thousand of different trajectories. So even if more clones attack I don't think Cid'll get nuked, the problem is still if an AoE drops from one of them.
The sharingan even in lesser forms like the two tome has information analysis which allows it to be able to “discern the reality behind any ability” be it ninjutsu, genjutsu or Taijutsu. In addition to that it can see clear images of its opponents next moves, as well as see the chakra in the body and predict via fluctuations in the chakra what moves his opponent is gonna do next.

yet nard is able to side step all this even as a child and go h2h with a more powerful version of the sharingan, like the rinnegan.
The scans in the profile are broken, anyway I answered above about this.
 
Also, technically, now that I think about it, Cid can simply outrun AoE attacks, I was thinking they are the same as IAA for some reason, but IAA has another speed rating which would blitz Naruto, Naruto doesn't have higher speeds with those attacks.
 
I would like to mention that if Cid really pulls IAA, It's an insta win for him given the attack is Sub-Rel and can cover more than what Naruto can with speed equalized (but everyone prob already knows that)
That can't be his wincon. If his wincon relies on an attack that blitzes Naruto then nope
 
Oh, speed equalized rules... Fair enough but it can easily argued Cid can create a situation where the opponent can't dodge his IAA, so blitz or not he'll still hit it. Against Oliver he was able to create a situation where she was within his reach by purposely getting impaled by her sword, avoiding any fatal damage of course, after Cid threw her off balance making her fall and making her unable to react to his attacks even while she was several times faster than him; or even any times he is able to counter attack the opponent not even using magic while the opponent was. While IAA would blitz Naruto now, Cid doesn't need to rely on that factor to win but needs to rely on IAA anyway, sure, because of the Ap.
 
Oh, speed equalized rules... Fair enough but it can easily argued Cid can create a situation where the opponent can't dodge his IAA, so blitz or not he'll still hit it. Against Oliver he was able to create a situation where she was within his reach by purposely getting impaled by her sword, avoiding any fatal damage of course, after Cid threw her off balance making her fall and making her unable to react to his attacks even while she was several times faster than him; or even any times he is able to counter attack the opponent not even using magic while the opponent was. While IAA would blitz Naruto now, Cid doesn't need to rely on that factor to win but needs to rely on IAA anyway, sure, because of the Ap.
No that's not how the rule works. If speed was unequalised Naruto would blitz CID faster than he can win and think. Speed being equalised now prevents Naruto from dodge IAA and that's the problem. Even your example doesn't work, cid can't hurt Naruto normally so getting him impaled and what not isn't possible. Also Naruto is rel. Don't compare that speed difference to anything in the verse
 
Uuh I know, I just said Cid doesn't need to rely on that blitz to win. Also what has Cid not being able to hurt Naruto have to do with the feat I mentioned?!
 
  • The combat speed of that faster character is assumed to be equalized to the combat speed of the slower character. Every other speed the faster character has is reduced by the same multiplier. This includes the speed of any attacks, projectiles, reactions, perception, flight, etc.
    • Speed Amplification techniques are assumed to grant the same percentile of increase to a character's equalized speeds, as they would to their usual speeds.

So, IAA would decrease speed in percentage to whatever it is now (From what i understood)
 
  • The combat speed of that faster character is assumed to be equalized to the combat speed of the slower character. Every other speed the faster character has is reduced by the same multiplier. This includes the speed of any attacks, projectiles, reactions, perception, flight, etc.
    • Speed Amplification techniques are assumed to grant the same percentile of increase to a character's equalized speeds, as they would to their usual speeds.

So, IAA would decrease speed in percentage to whatever it is now (From what i understood)
  • The combat speed of that faster character is assumed to be equalized to the combat speed of the slower character. Every other speed the faster character has is reduced by the same multiplier. This includes the speed of any attacks, projectiles, reactions, perception, flight, etc.
    • Speed Amplification techniques are assumed to grant the same percentile of increase to a character's equalized speeds, as they would to their usual speeds.

So, IAA would decrease speed in percentage to whatever it is now (From what i understood)
Any speed equalized match, in which a major reason a character loses is due to having a disadvantage against some speed value they usually wouldn't have a disadvantage against, may not be added to profiles.
 
That's fair, the problem is that when Cid did read Aurora's attack the only clues he had was her standing in front of him, he didn't see the attack in any way or form so it's not a matter of perceiving that energy, it's a matter that Cid can figure it out and eventually respond to it.
I’ll like to add that nature energy is all around the planet. This makes it hard to sense as anyone using this energy for attacks are basically blending said attacks with the rest of the nature energy circulating around the planet. This is the same reason why the Ten Tails can’t be sensed by conventional means.

Also I would hold off any VS matches using nard as his profile is heavily outdated and a new profile with updated A&P are being worked on
 
I mean, if it's gonna get added, i don't see the point of this match then

Forget this ig
 
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