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Now that this calc has finally been accepted, we can get some actual values to justify Majo Taisen profiles rating.
Elizabeth Bathory gathers all of her torture weapons into a large steel spike: 98703561.84 joules (9-A Small Building Level)
- The calc is also registered as a Class K Lifting feat, though the mass has been changed so it should be essentially half of the value, which looks to be around 95710.5kg (Class 100)
Tomoe Gozen's Calamity Severing Skybow blows a large crater in the Walpurgis arena walling: 77.7628796845 Tons (8-B+ City Block level+)
Edit: Another calc since has been made and accepted too here
Catherine the Great breaks Marie Antoinettes Hammer in a single blow: 19214887551 joules (High 8-C Large Building level)
-Marie Antoinette is also calced at Class K for being able to swing the hammer.She regards it as heavy, and is made out tonot be as phsyically strong in her lfietime so i'm confident in being able to scale every other witch so far to a Class K in lifting strength, or add possibly's to those who arent as strong.
Scaling
While I would certainly believe at this level of the tournament, all of the witches' power are around the same ranges of power in their own right, the scaling is tricky to account for when different witches instead rely on Hax or other counter-based factors to compete with eachother.
The 9-A feat calculated was Elizabeth's last ditch effort, using her last magic reserves in order to try and win, so it is to say that this is likely not the strongest output she could produce if she still had her magic. At the same time, Tomoe Gozen is a witch whose magic in itself is 'being strong', which should realistically put her at a bigger AP gap that the other witches, so 8-B+ right now should be the higher tiers of power.
While Elizabeth did 'survive' getting shot by this 8-B impact, it also just blew off her entire arm and right side of her upper torso, meaning it didn't directly hit and even then she couldn't stop it.
There are other feats however, that the pages currently use, to baseline the witches at a higher minimum power than 9-A (Marie Antoinette creating a replica of the tower castle she was locked in, based obviously off the Temple as a real life example, and then Catherine the Great's Cavalry mode destroying the castle in a single blow), making them High 8-C. I believe this should be retained for now, and i will be looking to get this feat calculated as well soon, as this is obviously a large building feat at least. It should also be noted that Marie survives a direct punch from Cavalry mode Catherine albeit she got ragdolled.
The feat for Catherine breaking the King's Hammer is undoutedly less so than this castle, which yielded High 8-C on its own. Catherine was using her Cavalry mode, which boosts her strength considerably, but
Elizabeth has been portrayed as one of the weaker witches we've seen so far in terms of her power, being canonically placed below Tomoe, Wu and Jeanne by a reputtable source (Kisikil), so she should definitely be the lower basis in general, however she still doesn't seem completely beneath these witches either and had been able to fight and deal actual damage to Tomoe despite her weaker AP.
With all this being said, i'll categorise each Witch we've seen so far (with a page) in how i think they would scale
Proposal
At least High 8-C up to 8-B+ with 'X' magic (Has showings and merit to be comparable to Tomoe): Tomoe Gozen, Wu Zetian, Jeanne D'Arc (higher form), Catherine the Great, Marie Antoinette
At least High 8-C, possibly higher: (More hax-based characters or portrayed as physically weaker than it): Elizabeth Bathory, Mary Read, Huang Yueying Cleopatra, Himiko, Mata Hari, Marie Curie
Everyone gets likely Class K Lifting Strength from scaling to Antoinette, except the obvious 'At least Class K' characters like Antoinette (Lifted the calc'ed hammer), Catherine (Physically superior and broke the hammer), Tomoe Gozen (Physically strongest Witch), Mary Read (Portrayed as one of the most physically superior witches lifting anchors and entire ships).
If there is anyone else out there that knows the series well, then im open to discussion ofc, im going to take more of a while to think this over and edit the thread before I come to my own decision
Elizabeth Bathory gathers all of her torture weapons into a large steel spike: 98703561.84 joules (9-A Small Building Level)
- The calc is also registered as a Class K Lifting feat, though the mass has been changed so it should be essentially half of the value, which looks to be around 95710.5kg (Class 100)
Tomoe Gozen's Calamity Severing Skybow blows a large crater in the Walpurgis arena walling: 77.7628796845 Tons (8-B+ City Block level+)
Edit: Another calc since has been made and accepted too here
Catherine the Great breaks Marie Antoinettes Hammer in a single blow: 19214887551 joules (High 8-C Large Building level)
-Marie Antoinette is also calced at Class K for being able to swing the hammer.She regards it as heavy, and is made out tonot be as phsyically strong in her lfietime so i'm confident in being able to scale every other witch so far to a Class K in lifting strength, or add possibly's to those who arent as strong.
Scaling
While I would certainly believe at this level of the tournament, all of the witches' power are around the same ranges of power in their own right, the scaling is tricky to account for when different witches instead rely on Hax or other counter-based factors to compete with eachother.
The 9-A feat calculated was Elizabeth's last ditch effort, using her last magic reserves in order to try and win, so it is to say that this is likely not the strongest output she could produce if she still had her magic. At the same time, Tomoe Gozen is a witch whose magic in itself is 'being strong', which should realistically put her at a bigger AP gap that the other witches, so 8-B+ right now should be the higher tiers of power.
While Elizabeth did 'survive' getting shot by this 8-B impact, it also just blew off her entire arm and right side of her upper torso, meaning it didn't directly hit and even then she couldn't stop it.
There are other feats however, that the pages currently use, to baseline the witches at a higher minimum power than 9-A (Marie Antoinette creating a replica of the tower castle she was locked in, based obviously off the Temple as a real life example, and then Catherine the Great's Cavalry mode destroying the castle in a single blow), making them High 8-C. I believe this should be retained for now, and i will be looking to get this feat calculated as well soon, as this is obviously a large building feat at least. It should also be noted that Marie survives a direct punch from Cavalry mode Catherine albeit she got ragdolled.
The feat for Catherine breaking the King's Hammer is undoutedly less so than this castle, which yielded High 8-C on its own. Catherine was using her Cavalry mode, which boosts her strength considerably, but
Elizabeth has been portrayed as one of the weaker witches we've seen so far in terms of her power, being canonically placed below Tomoe, Wu and Jeanne by a reputtable source (Kisikil), so she should definitely be the lower basis in general, however she still doesn't seem completely beneath these witches either and had been able to fight and deal actual damage to Tomoe despite her weaker AP.
With all this being said, i'll categorise each Witch we've seen so far (with a page) in how i think they would scale
Proposal
At least High 8-C up to 8-B+ with 'X' magic (Has showings and merit to be comparable to Tomoe): Tomoe Gozen, Wu Zetian, Jeanne D'Arc (higher form), Catherine the Great, Marie Antoinette
At least High 8-C, possibly higher: (More hax-based characters or portrayed as physically weaker than it): Elizabeth Bathory, Mary Read, Huang Yueying Cleopatra, Himiko, Mata Hari, Marie Curie
Everyone gets likely Class K Lifting Strength from scaling to Antoinette, except the obvious 'At least Class K' characters like Antoinette (Lifted the calc'ed hammer), Catherine (Physically superior and broke the hammer), Tomoe Gozen (Physically strongest Witch), Mary Read (Portrayed as one of the most physically superior witches lifting anchors and entire ships).
If there is anyone else out there that knows the series well, then im open to discussion ofc, im going to take more of a while to think this over and edit the thread before I come to my own decision
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