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Currently on Makima's page, her Damage Transferal & Limited Resurrection (or in short, her regeneration) is listed as "At least High-Mid, possibly Mid-High". It seems really off to me, so I'll propose it to be changed to "At least Mid-High", possibly adding a possibly "High" rating, or at the least change "possibly" to "likely" for the reasoning below:
REASONING
Firstly as most of you already knows, Makima's death was caused only by bypassing her contract, Denji ate her without having any hostilities against her successfully killed her, even Kishibe was surprised by this.
Kishibe said that attacks don't work against Makima as that's what he's heard from her (and probably has already aware of that fact before), and she's "Untouchable". Even the method Denji used loosely relied on either pure chance, or as a matter of perception, not even ONCE did Kishibe thought that Makima couldn't regenerate back anymore, because "Attacks don't work against Makima", that's what's the plot was giving us always, Makima's regen doesn't seem to have a limit to what she could regenerate from from a narrative standpoint, at least conventionally.
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The only reason why Denji's method works is because it wasn't counted as an attack at all, Denji ate makima with pure love.
Burning Makima is a completely viable choice, any normal person would think that's a viable way to try and kill her, but of course they wouldn't, because "attacks don't work against Makima". That's the only term of the contract, it transfer any and all damage into proper illnesses and accidents among Japanese citizens, that's what it should do at all cost, AT LEAST against attacks that can reduce Makima to vapor and ashes, as being burnt alive in a fire accident and reduced to mere ashes is apparently really common, the contract shouldn't have any problems working against attacks that requires Mid-High regen to function.
I want to also fix this once and for all: Makima's ability is not about regeneration, but "transfering damage", regeneration is only how it does the job, that is why on her profile the ability is listed as "Limited Resurrection and Damage Transferal", there shouldn't be any conventional limit to her ability to regenerate at least up to Mid-High or even High is plausible.
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But against all that, Kishibe instead relied on a method that could've cost Denji his life and void all chances against Makima, the method that he himself doesn't even believe in to begin with
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Not even once did the narrative gave Makima's regeneration capability any weakness other than it's ability to regenerate against outside forces going against it, or in other word, "an issue of regeneration speed".
In a narrative standpoint, Makima having the level of resurrection so high that conventional attacks won't even kill her is needed for the crazy plot at the end to happen. And one of the argument that could debunk this point here, would be resolved in the section below:
Debunking possible counterpoints
After Denji has completely neutralized Makima, and taken in the fact that Makima is weak to even mere bullets, the first thing they thought of was not "burn her" but to rely on Denji's messed up plan that again, loosely relies on "pure chance" as Kishibe put it. Furthermore, outhealing being incinerated by thousand degree heat while having her regen nerfed heavily by power, where her regen speed wasn't even that impressive before to begin with (she never shown to even regenerate instantly from a severe High-Mid damage either, obviously not Low-High).
Remember, Makima's regeneration was weakened to the point that she could be finely chopped up into small boxes and it'd still be fine
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If Makima has the level of regen speed that can outheal being incinerated in an incinerator while chopped up in small pieces (or worse, by thermite reaction which is extremely common and easy to access back in the 90s, which reaches temp near to to even hotter than what Pochita endured) then her regen speed would need to reach or surpass even Pochita, and plot-wise that isn't gonna ever be a thing.
Is an absolutely invalid interpretation of the event. Now imagine Power's blood acting as something like Nanomachines that's stopping Makima's existing cells to regenerate, she not being able to instantly regenerate against a force actively stopping that from happening doesn't make her not being able to regen being reduced to vapor, that is not how it works. Imagine this:
Makima being reduced to nothingness, there's nothing for her to regen from so she spawns new cells out of thin air to come back.
Then we have:
Makima being completely butchered and frozen in ice, with a force actively stopping her existing body from regenerating. This is a matter of regeneration speed and Makima's ability to deal with forces that can actively stop her from regenerating, in fiction stuff like this is when an immortal character got sealed and unable to do anything. Makima's body is still there, she can't regen simply because those part of the body is still there and is actively being stopped from doing so, she can't just spawn new parts of her body out of thin air and starts from there, her regeneration isn't controllable like that.
So of course, again, being stopped by Power's blood does not make Makima's regen being capped anywhere at all, it's just an issue of her regeneration speed .
CONCLUSION
I can conclude that saying Makima's regeneration is limited to biological regeneration is hugely downplaying and misintepreting the plot itself, the plot did not give such limitation to Makima as a weakness for the protagonist to defeat her, but instead the protagonist had to go through a hugely unconventional way to even kill Makima. That's all I have to say.
Low-High end
Scan (the Extreme Juice is the relevant one here)
Makima was reduced to mere juice with a blender, yet there would still be a possibility of her coming back even with this (this is the same as the argument for Mid-High, but instead with actual evidence supporting it). Burning might be quite unconventional to have here (it's not, but just for the sake of the argument), but turning Makima into a puddle of blood is what Denji could easily do thanks to Power, but blending Makima is not narratively considered a solution, so this can either get a:
Likely end, if Likely Mid-High is still rejected anyways. This is to get some more solid end for Makima's regeneration, rather than a vague "possibly" on her profile.
or straight up upgrading to Low-High FRA.
Agree (0:0):
Disagree (0:0): @Razor @AbaddonTheDisappointment
Neutral (0:0):
Likely-end
Agree (0:0):
Disagree (0:0): @Razor @AbaddonTheDisappointment
Neutral (0:0):
Low-High end:
Agree (0:0):
Disagree (0:0): @Razor
Neutral (0:0):
Likely Low-High end:
Agree (0:0): @AbaddonTheDisappointment @FinePoint
Disagree (0:0):
Neutral (0:0):
Currently on Makima's page, her Damage Transferal & Limited Resurrection (or in short, her regeneration) is listed as "At least High-Mid, possibly Mid-High". It seems really off to me, so I'll propose it to be changed to "At least Mid-High", possibly adding a possibly "High" rating, or at the least change "possibly" to "likely" for the reasoning below:
REASONING
Firstly as most of you already knows, Makima's death was caused only by bypassing her contract, Denji ate her without having any hostilities against her successfully killed her, even Kishibe was surprised by this.
Kishibe said that attacks don't work against Makima as that's what he's heard from her (and probably has already aware of that fact before), and she's "Untouchable". Even the method Denji used loosely relied on either pure chance, or as a matter of perception, not even ONCE did Kishibe thought that Makima couldn't regenerate back anymore, because "Attacks don't work against Makima", that's what's the plot was giving us always, Makima's regen doesn't seem to have a limit to what she could regenerate from from a narrative standpoint, at least conventionally.
Scans
The only reason why Denji's method works is because it wasn't counted as an attack at all, Denji ate makima with pure love.
Burning Makima is a completely viable choice, any normal person would think that's a viable way to try and kill her, but of course they wouldn't, because "attacks don't work against Makima". That's the only term of the contract, it transfer any and all damage into proper illnesses and accidents among Japanese citizens, that's what it should do at all cost, AT LEAST against attacks that can reduce Makima to vapor and ashes, as being burnt alive in a fire accident and reduced to mere ashes is apparently really common, the contract shouldn't have any problems working against attacks that requires Mid-High regen to function.
I want to also fix this once and for all: Makima's ability is not about regeneration, but "transfering damage", regeneration is only how it does the job, that is why on her profile the ability is listed as "Limited Resurrection and Damage Transferal", there shouldn't be any conventional limit to her ability to regenerate at least up to Mid-High or even High is plausible.
Scans
But against all that, Kishibe instead relied on a method that could've cost Denji his life and void all chances against Makima, the method that he himself doesn't even believe in to begin with
Scans
Not even once did the narrative gave Makima's regeneration capability any weakness other than it's ability to regenerate against outside forces going against it, or in other word, "an issue of regeneration speed".
In a narrative standpoint, Makima having the level of resurrection so high that conventional attacks won't even kill her is needed for the crazy plot at the end to happen. And one of the argument that could debunk this point here, would be resolved in the section below:
Debunking possible counterpoints
- "Makima is untouchable because she's so strong, that's why they can't even burn her to begin with, she'll outheal it":
After Denji has completely neutralized Makima, and taken in the fact that Makima is weak to even mere bullets, the first thing they thought of was not "burn her" but to rely on Denji's messed up plan that again, loosely relies on "pure chance" as Kishibe put it. Furthermore, outhealing being incinerated by thousand degree heat while having her regen nerfed heavily by power, where her regen speed wasn't even that impressive before to begin with (she never shown to even regenerate instantly from a severe High-Mid damage either, obviously not Low-High).
Remember, Makima's regeneration was weakened to the point that she could be finely chopped up into small boxes and it'd still be fine
Scans
If Makima has the level of regen speed that can outheal being incinerated in an incinerator while chopped up in small pieces (or worse, by thermite reaction which is extremely common and easy to access back in the 90s, which reaches temp near to to even hotter than what Pochita endured) then her regen speed would need to reach or surpass even Pochita, and plot-wise that isn't gonna ever be a thing.
- "But Makima's regen is limited to biological regeneration because Power's blood stopped her from regenerating":
Is an absolutely invalid interpretation of the event. Now imagine Power's blood acting as something like Nanomachines that's stopping Makima's existing cells to regenerate, she not being able to instantly regenerate against a force actively stopping that from happening doesn't make her not being able to regen being reduced to vapor, that is not how it works. Imagine this:
Makima being reduced to nothingness, there's nothing for her to regen from so she spawns new cells out of thin air to come back.
Then we have:
Makima being completely butchered and frozen in ice, with a force actively stopping her existing body from regenerating. This is a matter of regeneration speed and Makima's ability to deal with forces that can actively stop her from regenerating, in fiction stuff like this is when an immortal character got sealed and unable to do anything. Makima's body is still there, she can't regen simply because those part of the body is still there and is actively being stopped from doing so, she can't just spawn new parts of her body out of thin air and starts from there, her regeneration isn't controllable like that.
So of course, again, being stopped by Power's blood does not make Makima's regen being capped anywhere at all, it's just an issue of her regeneration speed .
CONCLUSION
I can conclude that saying Makima's regeneration is limited to biological regeneration is hugely downplaying and misintepreting the plot itself, the plot did not give such limitation to Makima as a weakness for the protagonist to defeat her, but instead the protagonist had to go through a hugely unconventional way to even kill Makima. That's all I have to say.
Low-High end
Scan (the Extreme Juice is the relevant one here)
Makima was reduced to mere juice with a blender, yet there would still be a possibility of her coming back even with this (this is the same as the argument for Mid-High, but instead with actual evidence supporting it). Burning might be quite unconventional to have here (it's not, but just for the sake of the argument), but turning Makima into a puddle of blood is what Denji could easily do thanks to Power, but blending Makima is not narratively considered a solution, so this can either get a:
Likely end, if Likely Mid-High is still rejected anyways. This is to get some more solid end for Makima's regeneration, rather than a vague "possibly" on her profile.
or straight up upgrading to Low-High FRA.
Agree (0:0):
Disagree (0:0): @Razor @AbaddonTheDisappointment
Neutral (0:0):
Likely-end
Agree (0:0):
Disagree (0:0): @Razor @AbaddonTheDisappointment
Neutral (0:0):
Low-High end:
Agree (0:0):
Disagree (0:0): @Razor
Neutral (0:0):
Likely Low-High end:
Agree (0:0): @AbaddonTheDisappointment @FinePoint
Disagree (0:0):
Neutral (0:0):
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