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I have been procrastinating on this thread for a while since I was reading up on all relevant storylines 'till I could find a solid, consistent basis for this upgrade, so let's dive right in.
Introductio
Currently, Marvel Comics's most powerful abstract entities are rated as High 1-B. This is mainly due to the fact that Eternity's multiversal incarnation embodies all existence and encompasses all planes and levels of reality, with him then scaling to the rest of the Cosmic Order, Multiversal Abstracts and the many other entities on this level.
However, the Tiering System has recently gone through a revision and added another tier inbetween High 1-B and 1-A, for characters that completely transcend infinite-layered hierarchies, but are not quite completely external to all extensions of space and time: Low 1-A (Low Outerverse level), and I believe Eternity and many other abstracts in the hierarchy qualify for such a rating, and will attempt to prove it below.
Without further ado:
Ultimates 2 & the Eighth Omniverse
Canon Diagram
To start off with the thread, I'll explain the cosmology shown more prominently in Al Ewing's very relevant Ultimates 1 & 2 runs, which concern the Eighth Omniverse - which contains many existential layers, some of which are extremely impressive, but the most relevant iterations described in the storyline happen to be Deep Space, the Superflow and the Neutral Zone. Later storylines by Al-Ewing go more in-depth, but for now, let's focus on those three.
This is more relevant to the Eighth Omniverse's cosmology than the Seventh Omniverse's, but it obviously still counts.
Deep Space
"Deep Space" describes any realm or universe contained within the "mainstream" Multiverse, before the more abstract domains proper. While this is technically the entirety of the normal 2-A multiverse and beyond, the most relevant realm of this layer for our purposes is the Negative Zone, a zone of reality that was shown to encompass the Subspace, which in itself is composed of infinite higher dimensions (High 1-B):
"I've done it!! I'm drifting into a world of limitless dimensions!! It's the crossroads of infinity - the junction to Everywhere!
As stated by the Celestials, the Subspace is just one of the many locations that Eternity encompasses:
"Beyond the edge of the Subspace to the cusp of Eternity."
The Negative Zone in itself is but a negative counterpart to the normal multiverse (described in the Infinity Finale as the "PosiVerse" by multiple sources), which strongly suggests that the mainstream multiverse also contains an infinite amount of higher dimensions within its breadth. This is just to show right away that even the lowest layer of the Multiversal Eternity is High 1-B in complexity.
The Superflow and the Neutral Zone
The Superflow is the next layer of Eternity beyond deep space. It is described as the highest level of abstract reality, the space where dreams and reality converge, and where the true forms of the Multiversal Abstracts reside and living concepts make war, and a completely conceptual space where combat itself is reduced to a mere metaphor, so it obviously transcends the previously-showcased segments of space and time that contained High 1-B constructs. This is where the Low 1-A sections begin, and this obviously scales to all Multiversal Abstracts.
But the Neutral Zone is even further beyond it - the Neutral Zone is the true uttermost limit of the Eighth Omniverse. It is described as the white space surrounding all reality - the blank Unspace from which even the most eldritch and incomprehensible of abstract forms came from and reside. In fact, the Neutral Zone's abstracts are so powerful that the Guardian of the Neutral Zone is capable of easily disposing of The Beyonders themselves. The Exo-Space is located at the very edge of the outerversal, conceptless Outside - the last outpost of the Omniverse proper in the Ultimates storyline, the last realm that can be said to be embodied by the Omniversal Eternity. This particular level of Low 1-A scales to none of the normal Multi-Abstracts except Eternity itself and those who scale to its full level, such as the Molecule Man, The First Firmament, the Ultimate Ultimates amped by OOA and perhaps a few others that don't come to my mind right now.
Conclusion
While this thread might seem smaller than it should be, that's because I decided to leave out a large chunk of the more controversial and debatable portions (which I will elaborate on later), since they'd probably derail the thread and cause too much controversy.
All-in-all, this upgrade scales to all Multiversal Abstracts and those who scale to that level, such as, non-comprehensibly:
Peace.
Introductio
Currently, Marvel Comics's most powerful abstract entities are rated as High 1-B. This is mainly due to the fact that Eternity's multiversal incarnation embodies all existence and encompasses all planes and levels of reality, with him then scaling to the rest of the Cosmic Order, Multiversal Abstracts and the many other entities on this level.
However, the Tiering System has recently gone through a revision and added another tier inbetween High 1-B and 1-A, for characters that completely transcend infinite-layered hierarchies, but are not quite completely external to all extensions of space and time: Low 1-A (Low Outerverse level), and I believe Eternity and many other abstracts in the hierarchy qualify for such a rating, and will attempt to prove it below.
Without further ado:
Ultimates 2 & the Eighth Omniverse
Canon Diagram
To start off with the thread, I'll explain the cosmology shown more prominently in Al Ewing's very relevant Ultimates 1 & 2 runs, which concern the Eighth Omniverse - which contains many existential layers, some of which are extremely impressive, but the most relevant iterations described in the storyline happen to be Deep Space, the Superflow and the Neutral Zone. Later storylines by Al-Ewing go more in-depth, but for now, let's focus on those three.
This is more relevant to the Eighth Omniverse's cosmology than the Seventh Omniverse's, but it obviously still counts.
Deep Space
"Deep Space" describes any realm or universe contained within the "mainstream" Multiverse, before the more abstract domains proper. While this is technically the entirety of the normal 2-A multiverse and beyond, the most relevant realm of this layer for our purposes is the Negative Zone, a zone of reality that was shown to encompass the Subspace, which in itself is composed of infinite higher dimensions (High 1-B):
"I've done it!! I'm drifting into a world of limitless dimensions!! It's the crossroads of infinity - the junction to Everywhere!
As stated by the Celestials, the Subspace is just one of the many locations that Eternity encompasses:
"Beyond the edge of the Subspace to the cusp of Eternity."
The Negative Zone in itself is but a negative counterpart to the normal multiverse (described in the Infinity Finale as the "PosiVerse" by multiple sources), which strongly suggests that the mainstream multiverse also contains an infinite amount of higher dimensions within its breadth. This is just to show right away that even the lowest layer of the Multiversal Eternity is High 1-B in complexity.
The Superflow and the Neutral Zone
The Superflow is the next layer of Eternity beyond deep space. It is described as the highest level of abstract reality, the space where dreams and reality converge, and where the true forms of the Multiversal Abstracts reside and living concepts make war, and a completely conceptual space where combat itself is reduced to a mere metaphor, so it obviously transcends the previously-showcased segments of space and time that contained High 1-B constructs. This is where the Low 1-A sections begin, and this obviously scales to all Multiversal Abstracts.
But the Neutral Zone is even further beyond it - the Neutral Zone is the true uttermost limit of the Eighth Omniverse. It is described as the white space surrounding all reality - the blank Unspace from which even the most eldritch and incomprehensible of abstract forms came from and reside. In fact, the Neutral Zone's abstracts are so powerful that the Guardian of the Neutral Zone is capable of easily disposing of The Beyonders themselves. The Exo-Space is located at the very edge of the outerversal, conceptless Outside - the last outpost of the Omniverse proper in the Ultimates storyline, the last realm that can be said to be embodied by the Omniversal Eternity. This particular level of Low 1-A scales to none of the normal Multi-Abstracts except Eternity itself and those who scale to its full level, such as the Molecule Man, The First Firmament, the Ultimate Ultimates amped by OOA and perhaps a few others that don't come to my mind right now.
Conclusion
While this thread might seem smaller than it should be, that's because I decided to leave out a large chunk of the more controversial and debatable portions (which I will elaborate on later), since they'd probably derail the thread and cause too much controversy.
All-in-all, this upgrade scales to all Multiversal Abstracts and those who scale to that level, such as, non-comprehensibly:
- Lord Chaos
- Master Order
- The Living Tribunal
- Eternity
- Infinity
- Death
- The Chaos King
- The In-Betweener
- Dormammu
- The Beyonder (Pre-Retcon)
- The First Firmament
- The Ultimate Ultimates
- The Beyonders
- Doctor Doom
- Logos
- Galactus
- Molecule Man; Pre-Retcon/Eighth Omniverse
Peace.
