Merlin vs Ainz-Sama

[Yobo_Blue]

That doesn't really help that argument then

 

[DeathNoodles]

Ainz using reality warp to gain resistance? And you assume he'll think of doing that before he gets destroyed by merlin? You're also assuming he would somehow have knowledge that merlin has precognition because he's a good tactician?

And Merlin is going to destroy him with what? Telekinetic blast? Ainz can dodge that with his teleportation, he isn't the type to let an opponent land a hit on him, especially if that person is completely unknown. Merlin's teleportation would get countered by Ainz's Delay Teleportation which would not only delay Merlin's teleportation, it would also notifies where Merlin would teleport, as well as giving Ainz some level of control for where Merlin teleports to.

Absorbing him with the hat? Unless the range is specified, I would go with the assumption that it would require physical contact or close proximity to work, in which case Ainz could avoid such by Teleportation. There's also the fact that Merlin's range is listed as unknown in his profile, so I can't even be certain for what his range is.

The other abilities Merlin gets via scaling are apparently ignored due to not being reliable enough to be used in-character, So Merlin only has a few options to defeat Ainz, such as his Soul Manipulation and Matter Manipulation, which I'm not even certain what the range is due to how vague Merlin's range says on his profile.

Since I've already argued why Ainz counters Power Nullification, I'm not going to repeat that. Since Ainz would start piecing together that Merlin has a special ability that can allow him to counteract Ainz many times (Ainz is definitely knowledgeable and perceptive enough to realise that something is up when he realises that his opponent all of the sudden knows what he's doing at all times), he would then start to become paranoid and start using WUAS to gain resistance to "whatever ability his enemy is using to counteract my moves" and gain resistance to Precognition that way. While I haven't seen WUAS being used that way, there's no evidence that it can't be used that way either, so I don't see why it's that much of a stretch of a NLF.

timestop isn't his beginning move, he only did it once or twice in story, in comparison to his insta-death.

It doesn't change the fact that he has used it against enemies that are fodder to him before, such as Gazef and the invaders to his tomb.


Even if you can argue that Ainz doesn't use time stop as his beginning move, that can all change once Ainz decides to use his Information Analysis and Claivoyance abilities (which Merlin has no resistance to, based from what it has said on his profile) at the beginning of the fight, and we all know Ainz is paranoid enough to do such. Such as using his Mana Essence to identify the MP of Merlin through his magic aura, which would make Ainz realize how dangerous Merlin really is, and start to use Time Stop in conjunction with his instant death spells to take out Merlin. He would basically go all out, with all the strategic skills he can muster up, once that happens

 

[DragonEmperor23]

>while I can't say it can be used that way, there's no evidence it can't be used that way

That's not how this works. You can't say there's no proof for it not being able to happen so it can happen.

 

[DeathNoodles]

>while I can't say it can be used that way, there's no evidence it can't be used that way
That's not how this works. You can't say there's no proof for it not being able to happen so it can happen.

Hmm. You have a point. But if that's the case, where is the evidence that Merlin has resistance to Time Stop or that his Precognition can allow him to foresee events that happen in time stops? If there aren't any evidence for those, I don't see why Merlin's Precognition should work against Ainz's Time Stop (which, if it isn't self-explanatory already, manipulates time itself and causes it to stop).

Edit: Even if one can argue that Ainz has no way to know about Merlin's Precognition to wish resistance against it, the same can't be applied for one of Merlin's other abilities such as Matter Manipulation or Soul Manipulation (which Ainz can visually see it being used. Stuff being destroyed or disappearing, and souls moving out of the bodies etc.),

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Oh, I don't know about Merlins or Ainz's stuff I was just reading both your posts when I noticed that bit.

 

[The_Archdemon]

Merlin should have resistance to Time Manip due to being able to resist Excalibur's power.

@DeathNoodles His resistance

 

[DeathNoodles]

@DeathNoodles His resistance

And how would resisting Excalibur, a weapon specifically designed for "killing immortals", give Merlin resistance to Time Stop? Time Stop might be an another ability for Excalibur, but its Time Manipulation (as in, other time abilities that isn't time stop) is from scaling, which is not exactly a reliable evidence to use when I haven't even seen any evidence of Excalibur using other time abilities like the Clock of Evermore (the item it scales to), based from what I've read about it. And Merlin resisting its power is arguable due to how vague that looks, since he might be resisting the "immortality-killing" aspects of it for all I know.

So, either you provide an on-screen feat of Merlin resisting an actual time stop being used against him, have any statements that proves he can resist time stop (and not something as vague as "he can resist Excalibur's power", I meant something more along the lines of "he resisted its time stop" or "even Excalibur's time stop means nothing to Merlin", etc.), or make a CRT about giving Merlin resistance to time stop. Otherwise, Merlin's resistance to time stop is arguable due to lack of any solid evidence that proves he can use it for this fight.

 

[MrKingOfNegativity]

 

[Akreious]

Why is Merlins' abilities even scaled in the first place?

He's almost definitely not the "Ultimate" wizard and even if he was the source of all magic, it doesn't automatically mean he has access to the abilities lesser users that specialized in said magic is trained to do.

It's like saying "A Railgun requires a strong battery to use, therefore the battery is now Railgun level". Just because he's the source of something does NOT automatically give him the abilities of everyone else who specialized in said abilties.

In short, we cannot use most of his scaled abilities as he's flat out never shown to even have access to those abilities. Having access to water doesn't make you able to use it as an Industrial Water Cutter.

Also this is Merlin WITHOUT Excalibur so all this talk about it is useless since every advantage it grants is not applicable here.

 

[The_Archdemon]

Guy, you're talking nonsense. The mechanics inside OUAT is quite different, you know. Magic is not only a tool, like all of these things you keep talking about.

He has access to all those scaled abilities in his page because he is the first wizard, and all magic abilities originated from the Holy Grail, from which he drank.

Also, all those abilities can be scaled to Rumplestiltskin, who taught the users of said abilities everything they know. Rumple's powers come from the dagger, a piece of Excalibur, which is the Holy Grail (it was melted and then reshaped).

Also, what does not having Excalibur mean? I never said anything he could only do with it.

Also, @DeathNoodles, Merlin has never been stabbed with Excalibur. When I say he resists Excalibur's power, he resists its magic in its entirety, its essence. Albeit, of course, if stabbed by Excalibur, Merlin would die. After all, he builded it so that it could remove his immortality.

 

[The_Archdemon]

Merlin probably still opens with powernull and wins.

 

[Akreious]

"Guy, you're talking nonsense. The mechanics inside OUAT is quite different, you know. Magic is not only a tool, like all of these things you keep talking about.

He has access to all those scaled abilities in his page because he is the first wizard, and all magic abilities originated from the Holy Grail, from which he drank."

Guess you COMPLETELY ignored what I typed. All magic originates from the Holy Grail which he drank, doesn't mean A) that he knows how to use them and B) just because he's the source doesn't mean that he can suddenly use magic he's never shown to use before.

It's like saying "I'm the inventor of Guns! Therefore, I control all mechanics of guns for generations to come!" while completely ignoring other people's innovations on your ability.

The proof that he can even USE any of these abilities is on you, not me. Just saying "He's the first wizard and drank from the Holy Grail means he's automatically better than everyone else" isn't proof that he can. I can spend 20000 years training on one form of magic, completely mastering it, but still not master say, Water Magic.

"Also, all those abilities can be scaled to Rumplestiltskin, who taught the users of said abilities everything they know. Rumple's powers come from the dagger, a piece of Excalibur, which is the Holy Grail (it was melted and then reshaped)."

Cool? How is that a feat for Merlin? We know that Rumple eventually surpassed Merlin in strength by becoming the Ultimate Dark One, so Rumple on a subjective level is superior to Merlin. Plus, Rumple himself is also hundreds of years old.

I can spend 200 years working on something and refining what I know, but if you gave my friend who's much more "Out of the books" only 100 years to train, then yeah my friend is probably going to be stronger due to his sheer versatility and different skills that I am untrained to fight.

Also, I'm not sure how magic works as there's no explanation anywhere, but how does drinking from the Holy Grail give Merlin all these abilities? If anything, from what I see of this thread, Magic is not set in stone and is quite malleable in the verse. How does drinking from the source of magic grant you the skill and ability to use abilities that you never showed to have skill in?

"The Archdemon reply to #49 Merlin probably still opens with powernull and wins."

Ainz Grasp Hearts first thing and wins.

If Grasp Heart vs Powernull is a 50/50 then there's also the chance that Ainz just uses [Death] and Merlin dies instantly with a thought; Ainz has a higher chance of winning in this case.

 

[DeathNoodles]

"Guy, you're talking nonsense. The mechanics inside OUAT is quite different, you know. Magic is not only a tool, like all of these things you keep talking about.
He has access to all those scaled abilities in his page because he is the first wizard, and all magic abilities originated from the Holy Grail, from which he drank."

Guess you COMPLETELY ignored what I typed. All magic originates from the Holy Grail which he drank, doesn't mean A) that he knows how to use them and B) just because he's the source doesn't mean that he can suddenly use magic he's never shown to use before.

It's like saying "I'm the inventor of Guns! Therefore, I control all mechanics of guns for generations to come!" while completely ignoring other people's innovations on your ability.

The proof that he can even USE any of these abilities is on you, not me. Just saying "He's the first wizard and drank from the Holy Grail means he's automatically better than everyone else" isn't proof that he can. I can spend 20000 years training on one form of magic, completely mastering it, but still not master say, Water Magic.

"Also, all those abilities can be scaled to Rumplestiltskin, who taught the users of said abilities everything they know. Rumple's powers come from the dagger, a piece of Excalibur, which is the Holy Grail (it was melted and then reshaped)."

Cool? How is that a feat for Merlin? We know that Rumple eventually surpassed Merlin in strength by becoming the Ultimate Dark One, so Rumple on a subjective level is superior to Merlin. Plus, Rumple himself is also hundreds of years old.

I can spend 200 years working on something and refining what I know, but if you gave my friend who's much more "Out of the books" only 100 years to train, then yeah my friend is probably going to be stronger due to his sheer versatility and different skills that I am untrained to fight.

Also, I'm not sure how magic works as there's no explanation anywhere, but how does drinking from the Holy Grail give Merlin all these abilities? If anything, from what I see of this thread, Magic is not set in stone and is quite malleable in the verse. How does drinking from the source of magic grant you the skill and ability to use abilities that you never showed to have skill in?

"The Archdemon reply to #49 Merlin probably still opens with powernull and wins."

Ainz Grasp Hearts first thing and wins.

If Grasp Heart vs Powernull is a 50/50 then there's also the chance that Ainz just uses [Death] and Merlin dies instantly with a thought; Ainz has a higher chance of winning in this case.

^^^

Oh, and Power Nullification gets countered by Ainz's WUAS, which I've already made my points about.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Does Ainz carry WUAS with him around all the time? I was under the impression World Items had to be taken out of the vault.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Does Ainz carry WUAS with him around all the time? I was under the impression World Items had to be taken out of the vault.

That's not world item

 

[DeathNoodles]

Does Ainz carry WUAS with him around all the time? I was under the impression World Items had to be taken out of the vault.

WUAS is an ability that he himself has, not an ability of an item he carries around. His ring, Shooting Star, is just an item that can allow him to make 3 wishes (2 wishes, if you're counting his wasted wish on attempting to free Shalltear from the influence of a World Item) without wasting EXP. He can still use WUAS even without Shooting Star, it just costs him EXP points to do so.

WUAS is not a World Item, so Ainz always has that ability around.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

oh, I see

 

[AnonymousBlank]

With no way to regain lost XP/levels, Ainz will never resort to using WUAS as that will lower both his level/stats, screwing over his AP and hax.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

With no way to regain lost XP/levels, Ainz will never resort to using WUAS as that will lower both his level/stats, screwing over his AP and hax.

No, that's not how the new world works. He can still gain XP

 

[Akreious]

With no way to regain lost XP/levels, Ainz will never resort to using WUAS as that will lower both his level/stats, screwing over his AP and hax.

Actually, he has world items called Avarice and Generosity that allows him to regain lost EXP. He only does not use it right now because he's already at the cap and every EXP point he gains disappears, which is why he's never seen with Avarice and Generosity. Point is, he's able to regain lost EXP and Levels.

So any argument that has "He won't do it because of lost EXP/Levels" holds much less weight when this is taken into consideration.

 

[The_Archdemon]

Apart from the gods, the fairies and obviously the magic that came after him (e.g: the Dark Curse)

It seems WUAS is a big NLF. And how does Ainz know Merlin's got powernull, on the first place?

Also, you guys are misunderstanding me. Merlin has access to all common magical abilities within the verse, and that's all.

He cannot cast the Dark Curse, or use Divine Magic, or Fairy Magic, or similar things, invented by the characters themselves or something, which then should have a different origins and should not come from the Holy Grail itself.

You guys should start reading.

I don't even know how did we get here, since he won't use any of his scaled powers in-character

 

[AnonymousBlank]

>Avarice and Generosity

Which he doesn't have in this fight, so he still screws himself if he uses it

>Regain lost XP and levels

Which he cannot regain by slaughtering a bunch of "helpless" (by comparison) creatures but by killing opponents close in level to him, something that is in short supply.

Bottom line is that Ainz doesn't use WUAS in character unless he has Shooting Star on him. Show a single scan/quote of him using WUAS without Shooting Star and I will happily agree with you.

 

[DeathNoodles]

It seems WUAS is a big NLF. And how does Ainz know Merlin's got powernull, on the first place?

Also, you guys are misunderstanding me. Merlin has access to all common magical abilities within the verse, and that's all.

He cannot cast the Dark Curse, or use Divine Magic, or Fairy Magic, or similar things, invented by the characters themselves or something, which then should have a different origins and should not come from the Holy Grail itself.

You guys should start reading.

I don't even know how did we get here, since he won't use any of his scaled powers in-character

WUAS is in Ainz's profile, as such it's valid for him to use it in this fight, so it's not anymore NLF than the fact that we know it exists and that Ainz can use it for this fight (the only time Ainz has used it was pretty much the time when it failed due to being used against the influence of a World Item, which are items that can reality warp better in certain aspects. At least it's shown that Ainz can actually use WUAS in the canon). And since Merlin has no resistance to Reality Warping, and the fact that the validity of Merlin's scaled abilities is questionable, he wouldn't be able to counter or nullify something as powerful as Reality Warping (or else it's NLF), which is what Ainz's WUAS is.

And Merlin not using his scaled abilities in-character does not help him at all, especially once Ainz starts realising how much of a threat he is via Clairvoyance and Information Analysis, and start HAXing Merlin to literal death.

How would he know that Merlin has power nullification? Well, Ainz experiences the effect of some of his abilities not working, and he can piece it together that it's because of Merlin's influence, so he can wish himself resistance against it (which Merlin can't negate WUAS for reasons I've mentioned above). And that's just one of the ways for Ainz to find out about Merlin's Power Nullification. That's not even taking into consideration that Ainz could summon powerful monsters to distract and stall Merlin for a little bit.

 

[Jimboydejuan12]

Anyone vote?

 

[FDrybob]

>Avarice and Generosity
Which he doesn't have in this fight, so he still screws himself if he uses it

>Regain lost XP and levels

Which he cannot regain by slaughtering a bunch of "helpless" (by comparison) creatures but by killing opponents close in level to him, something that is in short supply.

Bottom line is that Ainz doesn't use WUAS in character unless he has Shooting Star on him. Show a single scan/quote of him using WUAS without Shooting Star and I will happily agree with you.

They weren't claiming that Ainz needs Avarice and Generosity for the fight, just that he'd use it afterward to help regain XP if he lost any. Also, you are wrong about him needing to kill opponents "close in level to him" to gain XP. Either way, Ainz always carries Shooting Star as part of his equipment, so he would never lose XP in this situation to begin with.

 

[The_Archdemon]

How would he know that Merlin has power nullification? Well, Ainz experiences the effect of some of his abilities not working, and he can piece it together that it's because of Merlin's influence, so he can wish himself resistance against it (which Merlin can't negate WUAS for reasons I've mentioned above). And that's just one of the ways for Ainz to find out about Merlin's Power Nullification. That's not even taking into consideration that Ainz could summon powerful monsters to distract and stall Merlin for a little bit.

You know, if Ainz tries to use any of his nulled powers, he's gonna get hit by a 6-C TK blast and die. AP advantage, don't you remember?,

And the whole WUAS thing seems to be NLF. It doesn't matter whether or not he can use it. Can he use it in that way against someone as poweful as Merlin? I doubt it. If so, show me scan of him wishing resistance to powernull, then of him using it against a 6-C+ character.

WUAS is certainly unable to grant Ainz resistance to anything

 

[DeathNoodles]

You know, if Ainz tries to use any of his nulled powers, he's gonna get hit by a 6-C TK blast and die. AP advantage, don't you remember?,

And the whole WUAS thing seems to be NLF. It doesn't matter whether or not he can use it. Can he use it in that way against someone as poweful as Merlin? I doubt it. If so, show me scan of him wishing resistance to powernull, then of him using it against a 6-C+ character.

WUAS is certainly unable to grant Ainz resistance to anything

And how exactly does Merlin nullify the powers of others? Does he nullify their powers at a long distance via thought (and if so, how long was that distance)? Does he require physical contact to do so? Does he need to use a specific equipment to do so, or?

Even if we assume that Merlin can use Power Nullification against Ainz, there's the fact that Ainz has his own version of Power Nullification (which is probably considered to be Limited in Ainz's profile due to needing to actually have a World Item in the first place, or something like that, I reckon), which comes in the form of him having the possession of a World Item, items that can basically reality warp in specific areas. In Overlord-verse, just by having a World Item in your possession means you can basically nullify the effects of other World Items and not get affected by it. Since Verse Equalisation is a thing in this site, what's stopping Ainz from nullifying the effects of Merlin's Power Nullification? Plus, Ainz basically already carries a World Item with him already, which is the red orb within his rib cage, so there's that.

And you still didn't provide any solid proof for why Merlin should have resistance to time stop (which is questionable to even use in this fight in the first place, since I didn't even see any sort of resistance to Time Stop in Merlin's profile. If you want Merlin having resistance to time stop to be valid, then make a CRT about it and try to get it added to his profile).

WUAS is an ability that has only been shown to fail against World Items (and any subject that has to do with World Items), which are powerful enough to be considered 5-B via statements (though since we dont see Ainz actually using the red orb within him, other than just nullifying the effects of other World Items just by him having it under his possession alone, which should still keep him at tier 6-C. And since we are basically low-balling due to only having statements to showcase its power, we basically keep Ainz's WUAS and stuff listed as "Unknown".). Merlin isn't tier 5-B in this fight, nor is there actual proof of him having reality warping (this one especially. Him having other powers and abilities via scaling is questionable at best, and unreliable at worst. I still don't see actual proof of Merlin having reality warping, nor having resistance to it). I don't need to include scans of anything if Merlin has no resistance to reality warping. I've already made my points of what WUAS can do via Reality Warping, and if there's no evidence to prove that Merlin has resistance or can counter such a HAX like Reality Warping, then he doesn't. It's as simple as that.

"WUAS is certainly not being able to grant Ainz resistance to anything"? Now you are just blatantly ignoring what Reality Warping can do in general. Such a HAX doesn't need to have extra evidence to justify what it is capable of if there's already enough proof (such as reliable statements or feats) of it doing so, such as gaining knowledge and supernatural abilities. Resistance can be considered an "ability", thus Ainz can gain resistance through WUAS wishing it via Reality Warping. There's a reason why Reality Warping is considered to be one of the highest HAX abilities after all.

If you want to prove why Ainz's Reality Warping via WUAS can't affect Merlin, then the burden of proof is on you, not me. Whether or not you consider WUAS to be NLF doesn't matter if Merlin doesn't have any actual evidence to resist or counter such a HAX. It's as easy as that.

 

[The_Archdemon]

Man, just because a power is RW it doesn't mean it can do anything. You're hurling a huge NLF at me. I meam, do you really believe it works on everything? Against any power? Please, show me a scan of him using it agaist power nullification.

 

[OpMasada]

>What stops ainz from nullifying merlin's null because WCI

That's wank isn't it? WCI has never powernulled anything other than the effect of a WCI, and I don't recall merlin having a WCI. Also, "Make a CRT or it doesn't happen" is a stupid argument for what might be an inaccurate profile. I'm not saying he has time stop resistance, but all archdemon needs to do is give proof that he has it, I don't believe a CRT is needed for this unless a mod comes and confirm it for me.

I also doubt ainz would even use WUAS before he gets blasted with whatever. You guys seem to think ainz is some supergenius, he's not going to immedietely burst out WUAS when he doesn't even know wtf just happened, he's paranoid as hell and he'll probably try to run away before he realizes he can't teleport. I also have a question - can he can even use WUAS? the only argument against it is the horrible one given by DeathNoodles: "Merlin doesn't have resistance so he can't powernull". I would concede if there was a tier difference or proof it would be unaffected by powernull, but if merlin's powernull works by nullifying spells, I don't see why it wouldn't affect WUAS because that is also a spell.

A Super-Tier spell to be precise.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

I think WCI could affect and powers at their level, but not anything below

 

[DeathNoodles]

Man, just because a power is RW it doesn't mean it can do anything. You're hurling a huge NLF at me. I meam, do you really believe it works on everything? Against any power? Please, show me a scan of him using it agaist power nullification.

Hmm. Maybe not. Since I haven't seen any evidence of high tier Power Nullification being used in the Overlord-verse yet, I'll concede to that point due to lack of evidence of resistance against Power Nullification. However, how exactly does Merlin's Power Nullification work exactly? All I've gotten from Merlin's profile is him being able to nullify the target's capacity to hurt a specific person, which I've only interpreted that as Merlin making it that Ainz's powers can't hurt him specifically... But, I don't see how that actually takes away their power, it seems to make it that their powers can't harm them. And the only other method for Merlin's Power Nullification is him scaling to Zelena, which isn't exactly nullifying their powers directly (it involves Zelena casting a spell on the target, and when the target kisses a person, that person would get their powers removed because of the target... Even if we count that method in due to scaling, which I've already implied how unreliable it is, I don't see how Merlin could use that against Ainz when he doesn't have anyone or even an object that he could use to make contact with Ainz). And, since Merlin's verse is basically all about magic, I would just assume that Merlin's Power Nullification would only work against magic, just to be safe.

So, once Ainz sees several offensive spells failing to work against Merlin, what's stopping Ainz from using Greater Teleportation to teleport out of Merlin's range (again, how good is Merlin's range exactly?), use WUAS to gain knowledge about Merlin's capabilities and weaknesses (which doesn't count as "harming" Merlin as all he does is gain information. Which he would do since he just straight up experienced his offensive spells failing on him against Merlin, thus making him become desperate enough to use WUAS)? After he has gotten the information he needs, what's stopping Ainz from teleporting near Merlin (but not enough to make physical contact with him, but still remain within his vicinity), then use Despair Aura V (which isn't magic. It's a racial ability for Ainz's race, which means it isn't exactly magic, thus nullifying magic shouldn't nullify Ainz's abilities that he gets from being of the Overlord race) against Merlin and kill him off via instant death? And where's the solid evidence of Merlin having resistance against Time Stop? (Also, please don't mention about Merlin having it due to "resisting Excalibur's power" due to how vague that is, as I've already mentioned that there needs to be an actual feat/quote of Merlin resisting Time Stop directly to make it truly valid)

>What stops ainz from nullifying merlin's null because WCI

1. That's wank isn't it? WCI has never powernulled anything other than the effect of a WCI, and I don't recall merlin having a WCI. Also, "Make a CRT or it doesn't happen" is a stupid argument for what might be an inaccurate profile. I'm not saying he has time stop resistance, but all archdemon needs to do is give proof that he has it, I don't believe a CRT is needed for this unless a mod comes and confirm it for me.

2. I also doubt ainz would even use WUAS before he gets blasted with whatever. You guys seem to think ainz is some supergenius, he's not going to immedietely burst out WUAS when he doesn't even know wtf just happened, he's paranoid as hell and he'll probably try to run away before he realizes he can't teleport. I also have a question - can he can even use WUAS? the only argument against it is the horrible one given by DeathNoodles: "Merlin doesn't have resistance so he can't powernull". I would concede if there was a tier difference or proof it would be unaffected by powernull, but if merlin's powernull works by nullifying spells, I don't see why it wouldn't affect WUAS because that is also a spell.

A Super-Tier spell to be precise.

1. Okay. As for Archdemon needing to give proof that Merlin has time stop resistance, well, the main problem is that the proof that Archdemon gave about Merlin having such a resistance is too vague. They don't actually provide proof of Merlin resisting Excalibur's ability of Time Stop (it could be Merlin resisting Excalibur's raw destructive energy for all I know), and all the other reasons Archdemon has listed for why Merlin has resistance to time stop involves a heavy amount of scaling, which got questioned by me and some of the others for its validity. If the abilities Merlin has are due to scaling, but he hasn't actually used it in the canon, then why should he even use it in the first place (especially if the only evidence of Merlin having them is being the "source of all the common magical abilities and the Holy Grail magic"?)

2. I've already made my points about Merlin's Power Nullification, now I just need to wait for Archdemon to prove how Merlin's Power Nullification operates. As for the lack of tier difference, that could be resolved by Ainz having Energy Drai, which operates by draining the opponent's levels, with the various benefits Ainz gains being dependent on the amount of levels he drains from Merlin. Since Overlord-verse includes Ainz's abilities being a bit different due to transferring to the New World (thus, giving Ainz's abilities a more "realistic" touch), he would end up weakening Merlin with Energy Drain, and possibly drag Merlin down to a tier below Ainz. I don't see Merlin having resistance to something like Energy Drain in his profile, or anywhere, so there's that. Since Energy Drain doesn't exactly inflict damage on Merlin (thus, it shouldn't "harm" Merlin by definition), I don't see why it shouldn't work unless proven otherwise.

 

[Jimboydejuan12]

Really This Guys so much a keyboard warrior those argument comments your reply.