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Minor MHA CRT

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Been a bit since I made a CRT but here’s some basic changes

Deku needs Forcefield Creation as stated he can wrap himself in layers of Blackwhip to stave off lethal blows, and he should also get Weapon Creation for being able to fashion claws out of Blackwhip

Bakugou needs Limited Body Control as it was stated that Edgeshot sewing his heart back up wasn’t what revived him, but his own quirk did.

Star and Stripe needs Self-Soul Manipulation as she can modify her quirk to revolt in the vestige world, which left the scar on Shigaraki’s core

Shigaraki needs Resistance to Vibration Manipulation and Paralysis Inducement for being able to withstand Gang Orca’s hypersonic waves which cause paralysis, and also Resistance to Electricity Manipulation for tanking being slammed into the UA’s electric barrier

Dabi needs Self-Destruction for obvious reasons

For now thats it
 
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Seems simple, I agree. I expect some pushback on Blackwhip being a force field (I think it does technically count though, the tendrils are made of energy and can shield Deku’s body from attack, even being in a sphere-like formation at one point during the Shigaraki fight.
 
1000TonsofFun said:
Seems simple, I agree. I expect some pushback on Blackwhip being a force field (I think it does technically count though, the tendrils are made of energy and can shield Deku’s body from attack, even being in a sphere-like formation at one point during the Shigaraki fight.
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Technically it’s not a natural forcefield but I still think it should count since it’s an application of the ability if he layers them together
 
1000TonsofFun said:
Seems simple, I agree. I expect some pushback on Blackwhip being a force field (I think it does technically count though, the tendrils are made of energy and can shield Deku’s body from attack, even being in a sphere-like formation at one point during the Shigaraki fight.
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No way you expect pushback on Deku using blackwhip as a forcefield and not bro proposing full on soul manipulation for star and stripes
 
Btw I disagree with SnS getting soul manipulation. The absolute best you’re getting is Unconventional Limited Soul Manipulation with that. Even then that’s sus because she legit cant transfer her quirk to other people and only pulled off that stunt because Shigaraki stole her quirk. If she someone words her command in order to do a similar ability to Shigaraki and AFO’s own Unconvential Limited Soul Manipulation, she would just explode like Shigaraki and die.
 
CastoriceTheFifth said:
No way you expect pushback on Deku using blackwhip as a forcefield and not bro proposing full on soul manipulation for star and stripes
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Star did destroy plenty of vestiges and was damaging AFO’s. We already accept at least AFO and OFA’s vestiges as souls, so it’s not unreasonable to assume that she would have soul manipulation, to some degree at least.
 
Star and Stripe shouldn't get Soul Manipulation. Her power was rigged up to clash with other powers and Shigaraki had the power in a place that made his soul vulnerable to it.

The Deku, Dabi and Shigaraki stuff seems okay. Bakugo getting resurrection seems like a tall order though.
 
Mazdoesstuff said:
Deku needs Forcefield Creation and Damage Reduction, as stated he can wrap himself in layers of Blackwhip to stave off lethal blows
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Blackwhip does not literally reduce the damage of incoming blows. Like with any and all forms of protection, Deku allows his Blackwhip barrier to absorb some of the damage received before it reaches him, reducing the damage inflicted to him but not the incoming damage itself.
Mazdoesstuff said:
Star and Stripe needs Soul Manipulation as she can modify her quirk to revolt in the vestige world, which left the scar on Shigaraki’s core
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Quirk Factors inherently interact with the Vestige World, given they contain a piece of the consciousness of their owners. She did not manipulate any souls herself, she simply placed a rule on her Quirk Factor which prompted it to posthumously attack All For One's Quirks upon being stolen.
Mazdoesstuff said:
Shigaraki needs Non-Physical Interaction and Soul Manipulation for being able to literally snatch Shinomori out of the vestige world, with Banjo literally noting that he busted into the “psychic space”.
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Because he stole his Quirk Factor.
His Quirk Factor contains the part of his consciousness responsible for even giving him a Vestige to begin with.
 
Mommyleona said:
Why the dabi rating tweak? isnt it better that it's specifying reactions and combat speed? unless you mean he has rel+ travel speed too which he def doesnt
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Thats not rlly how we do speed ratings, combat speed is basically the speed you can fight at over a short distance but we assign general speed ratings for larger distances. The length Dabi traveled is outside standard melee range
 
Mommyleona said:
where does it say that? combat speed is just the speed character can fight at
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I’ll find the official quotes but if u look on the profiles we don’t rate the travel speed the same as general movement speed lol.. because characters in a variety of anime cannot travel as far as they can run in short-medium distances
 
Mazdoesstuff said:
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Izuku: Forcefield Creation and Weapon Creation is fine. Forcefield Creation is the ability to generate protective barriers using energy, magic, force, or other non-physical sources, rather than by shaping physical matter. Blackwhip isn't shaping physically matter, it's something produced by Izuku.

However, Damage Reduction is wrong. Your implication would mean everyone who creates a shield would have damage reduction. That's not what Damage Reduction is. It's about reducing the damage you take through special means. Making a barrier of Blackwhip is just a shield.

Bakugo: Bakugo already has Danmaku. I don't know if defibbing your own heart via explosive sweat drops counts as resurrection. Our resurrection page is too vague and needs to be updated. I don't believe Bakugo should have it.

Star and Stripe: I have no idea. Star would need someone to absorb her vestige for that to work. We have no reason to believe she can do anything else. I'd rather not.

Shigaraki: That's just the All For One Quirk. He steals Quirks, which means he takes the vestige as well. The soul stuff is a side-effect, since vestiges follow their Quirks. That was just a visualization of Shigaraki's theft in the vestige world. Shigaraki didn't even see that. Maybe you can say it was Shigaraki's vestige coming through. Shigaraki himself has not shown the ability to touch spirits while in the physical world, so I disagree with Non-Physical Interaction and Soul Manipulation.

Dabi: Self-Destruction is fine. Heat/Temperature Manipulate is wrong. Temperature Manipulation (also known as Heat Manipulation) is the ability to manipulate the thermal energy of oneself or the environment. While other abilities, such as Fire Manipulation and Ice Manipulation, may affect the temperature of one's surroundings, this ability refers to having direct control of temperature and heat for any number of purposes.

Dabi was storing fire, which meant he was storing up heat as well. That's how Flashfire Fist works: it's about compressing your flames into a super-hot point. His use of Phosphor produced a compression even greater than before. He manipulates fire; he does not manipulate temperature itself without fire.

I also don't understand your Dabi speed rating change. You make no clarification or reasoning for it.

Why do you want to remove the reactions and combat speed mention from his profile?

Also, Dabi did not blitz Shoto. He used Hell Spider as a smokescreen, so Shoto couldn't see him. Your claim that Dabi wasn't using his Quirk to propel him is wrong. You can literally see a trail of fire that follows Dabi's path. He used Flashfire to move behind Shoto.

You shouldn't be using the anime. Always check the manga before making a claim.
 
Why not just lists Star and Stripe's ability as this:

Self-Soul Manipulation & Non-Physical Interaction (Able to use her quirk on her own soul to revolt, and attack the soul of others who attempt to absorb hers)
Self-Soul Manipulation & Non-Physical Interaction (Able to use her quirk on her own soul to revolt, and attack the soul of others who attempt to absorb hers)
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Not exactly like that, but that's just the idea/gist of it anyways. Feel like that clears up any issues with indexing it.
 
LaserPrecision said:
Why not just lists Star and Stripe's ability as this:

Self-Soul Manipulation & Non-Physical Interaction (Able to use her quirk on her own soul to revolt, and attack the soul of others who attempt to absorb hers)
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That's not Non-Physical Interaction. A soul touching a soul means nothing. Star touched herself and added a rule to her own Quirk, which also affected her vestige.

Maybe Self-Soul Manipulation is fine, but I disagree Non-Physical Interaction. She didn't physically touch an intangible ghost/spirit.
 
TheRustyOne said:
That's not Non-Physical Interaction. A soul touching a soul means nothing. Star touched herself and added a rule to her own Quirk, which also affected her vestige.

Maybe Self-Soul Manipulation is fine, but I disagree Non-Physical Interaction. She didn't physically touch an intangible ghost/spirit.
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Self-Soul Manip alone is fine then, sure.
 
TheRustyOne said:
Bakugo already has Danmaku. I don't know if defibbing your own heart via explosive sweat drops counts as resurrection. Our resurrection page is too vague and needs to be updated. I don't believe Bakugo should have it.
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Someone else could perhaps weigh in? Regardless it’s probably non-combat applicable but he did technically revive himself using his quirk

TheRustyOne said:
Why do you want to remove the reactions and combat speed mention from his profile?
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Trying to list it as general movement speed rather than reactions and combat. I will concede that he did use his quirk to get behind Shoto, but the jump attack he makes afterwards did not have any propulsion, and it occurred in the manga as well (albeit, the distance is slightly inconsistent)
 
Mazdoesstuff said:
Trying to list it as general movement speed rather than reactions and combat. I will concede that he did use his quirk to get behind Shoto, but the jump attack he makes afterwards did not have any propulsion, and it occurred in the manga as well (albeit, the distance is slightly inconsistent)
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That's reaction/combat speed, not movement speed.

He just punched Shoto, who wasn't expecting him to get behind him.

Because he used Hell Spider as a smokescreen, we cannot say how fast he was based on it alone.

No, Dabi does not have Relativistic+ movement speed. Reaction speed is the speed at which a character can react to an event or action. This usually only grants a short movement upon reaction, whereas several movements at the same speed switch it to combat speed.

Also, unless specified, we default to assume speed means Combat Speed. "Speed is simply how fast a character can move in a given amount of time. There are five types of speed used for VS purposes: Attack Speed, Combat Speed, Reaction Speed, Travel Speed, and Flight Speed. The term "Speed" normally refers to Combat Speed."
 
Forcefield Creation and Weapon Creation makes sense and should look like this on the profile.

I don't agree with Limited Resurrection, since that would be equivalent to giving a defibrillator Limited Resurrection for restarting a heart.

For SS, something like Self-Soul Manipulation would probably fit better, since she can place rules on her Quirk and therefore impose a rule on her vestige.

Dabi's Self-Destruct looks good, but Heat Manipulation is a no, since his Fire Manipulation already covers what he was doing.

And his speed ratings should remain the way they are right now.
 
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Bakugo restarting his own heart should qualify as something on his profile but I honestly have no idea what it would be without being an ill fit for said ability.
 
Mazdoesstuff said:
Also Star should get some form of Non-Physical Interaction for being able to place laws on elementally intangible matter such as air and light, whether it’s limited or not
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That's not Non-Physical Interaction.

"Additionally, interacting with things that lack a set shape/form, in a way that would normally be exclusive to solid objects, would also warrant non-physical interaction; even if those things are technically speaking physical. Take for instance, fire, which albeit perceptible through touch, cannot inherently be held as if it were a singular mass. Doing so would therefore grant non-physical interaction."

Star is not interacting with these things like they're physical. Air and light exist within reality and make contact with you.

Air and Light lack a set shape/form, since they are not solid matter, but they still physically exist. Star's Quirk requirement for contact accepts that interaction as a valid touch. Star needs to set a rule on light or air to touch them, as shown with her Fist Bump to the Earth and Keraunos.

Changing the rules of air and light is also not Non-Physical Interaction.
 
Rusty is right. For SS to have Non-Physical Interaction, she would need to do something like touching the air or a laser as if it were a physical object, similar to what All Might did here.

In SS's case, she had to change the rule of the laser to make it holdable to her touch, which confirms it wasn't holdable for her beforehand. That is not true Non-Physical Interaction.

@Mazdoesstuff When you have time, can you make some changes to the thread reflecting what was discussed before I summon more thread moderators:

Deleting Deku's Damage Reduction, change Limited Resurrection to Limited Body Control, delete Danmaku since Bakugo already has that, make SS's Soul Manip into Self-Soul Manipulation, delete Shigaraki's Soul Manip and Non-Physical Interaction since that's just the doing of the All For One Quirk, add his resistance to electricity and paralysis, keep Dabi's Self-Destruction and delete his Heat Manip and speed changes.
 
Finished the CRT with the changes, if anyone else has anything to add let me know

Otherwise someone can add the changes and I’ll get started on the lightspeed lasers CRT
 
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