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Not attempting to change much here on this, so im just going to cut to the chase. The standards for Pokemon Typing need revising, because some of what's allowed from pokemon typing is straight up nonsense.
Now, for the most part, the type standards are fine. For us to be equalizing resistances to things like fire type moves as resisting fire and heat manipulation, water type moves being a resistance to water manipulation, or electric type moves as electricity manipulation, they are not an issue. Some of it is pretty straightforward. The real issue, however, is the type immunities and the relationships between them. And the immunity that needs to be removed from every Pokemon page that has it, are flying type pokemon resisting earth manipulation because of their "immunity" to ground type moves.
And I put quotations around "immunity" because this is, in fact, not a real immunity or resistance like the other typing's provide. Simply put, its a result of game mechanics. The resistance doesn't exist for flying pokemon in the first place outside of in-gameplay, meaning? It's not a real resistance. This is something that has come up before in the past, but the only actual reason why Flying Type Pokemon are considered "immune" to ground type moves is strictly because flying type pokemon are not in contact with the ground. They are in mid air, so they are out of a ground type moves range of effect, which makes them "immune". But this is not an actual legitimate immunity or resistance in the sense that the flying type was actually hit with the attack and resisted it. Even when looking at one canon source when it comes to this, there's a plethora of evidence that shows this immunity is only because of being aerial.
In the games, we have a number of things proving being aerial is how flying types are "immune" to ground type moves.
In addition to that, another damning piece of evidence to debunk this resistance being a thing is the fact that, even by Pokemon's weird typing relationship rules, a flying type pokemon is somehow supposedly "immune" to ground attacks......yet they are considered weak against rock type attacks. And yes, im arguing against ground and earth being somehow considered 2 different typings. There's literally no explicit difference between rock and ground, they're literally the same thing. Why should we consider these 2 as two distinctly different types all because Pokemon mechanics dictate so? Both types are plainly associated with manipulating the ground and earth. This case is not the same thing as like with Water and Ice types where, while ice is technically the same attribute as water, it counts as different because it's a different form of water and has different effects. Rock and ground have no such relationship like this, thinking they do just because of a mechanic separating the 2 into types is baseless and just genuinely stupid.
"B-but flying type pokemon have been shown perched to the ground before and still haven't gotten effected by ground type moves!"
Avatar misrepresentation, and a blatant abuse of in-game mechanics to a stupid degree, incase this comes up. Flying types appearing they're "perched" on the ground when in battles is largely because of the sprites in-game not being animated like they have been in recent gens. Do you seriously think a flying type sits in a stationary position facing their opponent, only flies when using a move, and then goes back to that position when not attacking or when they're getting attacked? That is text book turn based play. Even the opening of Red and Blue Version showed two Pokémon dodging attacks and moving around more than the avatars do.
On top of this, not only are flying type pokemon more consistently animated to be flying rather than just "sitting" on the ground, but appearing to just be "standing up" doesn't mean they're grounded. It's like saying Pikachu in Brilliant Diamond / Shining Pearl has damage transferal because he can damage you using double kick without actually being shown kicking you. Instead. he jumps up and down in the same spot he's in instead of physically going to the opponent and kicking them. But that doesn't mean anything, and neither would this point on being perched.
Everything so far is just from what the games have provided us too. This gets even more damning if we include the anime, where flying types like Ash's Charizard gets effected by magnitude by Gary's Golem, or when Ash's Staraptor gets effected by toxic spikes from Paul's Drapion. And why? Because both were in contact with the ground to receive the effects of both moves. Arguing against the idea that flying types don't have an actual legitimate resistance requires you to take the in-game treatment of Pokemon types to a very big degree and ignore a plethora of proofs, even from in-game, that prove the resistance is something born from a game mechanic in the first place itself.
TL;DR- The type standards for the most part are fine, but flying types being considered in having a resistance to earth manipulation is not. There is no real resistance at all, so any Pokemon pages like Charizard that have resistance for being a flying type need to get it removed.
Now, for the most part, the type standards are fine. For us to be equalizing resistances to things like fire type moves as resisting fire and heat manipulation, water type moves being a resistance to water manipulation, or electric type moves as electricity manipulation, they are not an issue. Some of it is pretty straightforward. The real issue, however, is the type immunities and the relationships between them. And the immunity that needs to be removed from every Pokemon page that has it, are flying type pokemon resisting earth manipulation because of their "immunity" to ground type moves.
And I put quotations around "immunity" because this is, in fact, not a real immunity or resistance like the other typing's provide. Simply put, its a result of game mechanics. The resistance doesn't exist for flying pokemon in the first place outside of in-gameplay, meaning? It's not a real resistance. This is something that has come up before in the past, but the only actual reason why Flying Type Pokemon are considered "immune" to ground type moves is strictly because flying type pokemon are not in contact with the ground. They are in mid air, so they are out of a ground type moves range of effect, which makes them "immune". But this is not an actual legitimate immunity or resistance in the sense that the flying type was actually hit with the attack and resisted it. Even when looking at one canon source when it comes to this, there's a plethora of evidence that shows this immunity is only because of being aerial.
In the games, we have a number of things proving being aerial is how flying types are "immune" to ground type moves.
- The ability Levitate, used by some pokemon like Gengar, negates ground type attacks by floating in the air.
- Magnet Rise, a move that grants the user "immunity" to ground type attacks by rising into the air.
- Items like the air balloon, which allows the user to be "immune" to ground attacks by floating in the air.
- Items like the iron ball, which makes the user vulnerable to ground type attacks by making them incapable of flying while holding it.
- Gravity, a move that increases gravity to make flying type Pokemon grounded by making them incapable of flying, making them vulnerable to ground type attacks.
In addition to that, another damning piece of evidence to debunk this resistance being a thing is the fact that, even by Pokemon's weird typing relationship rules, a flying type pokemon is somehow supposedly "immune" to ground attacks......yet they are considered weak against rock type attacks. And yes, im arguing against ground and earth being somehow considered 2 different typings. There's literally no explicit difference between rock and ground, they're literally the same thing. Why should we consider these 2 as two distinctly different types all because Pokemon mechanics dictate so? Both types are plainly associated with manipulating the ground and earth. This case is not the same thing as like with Water and Ice types where, while ice is technically the same attribute as water, it counts as different because it's a different form of water and has different effects. Rock and ground have no such relationship like this, thinking they do just because of a mechanic separating the 2 into types is baseless and just genuinely stupid.
"B-but flying type pokemon have been shown perched to the ground before and still haven't gotten effected by ground type moves!"
Avatar misrepresentation, and a blatant abuse of in-game mechanics to a stupid degree, incase this comes up. Flying types appearing they're "perched" on the ground when in battles is largely because of the sprites in-game not being animated like they have been in recent gens. Do you seriously think a flying type sits in a stationary position facing their opponent, only flies when using a move, and then goes back to that position when not attacking or when they're getting attacked? That is text book turn based play. Even the opening of Red and Blue Version showed two Pokémon dodging attacks and moving around more than the avatars do.
On top of this, not only are flying type pokemon more consistently animated to be flying rather than just "sitting" on the ground, but appearing to just be "standing up" doesn't mean they're grounded. It's like saying Pikachu in Brilliant Diamond / Shining Pearl has damage transferal because he can damage you using double kick without actually being shown kicking you. Instead. he jumps up and down in the same spot he's in instead of physically going to the opponent and kicking them. But that doesn't mean anything, and neither would this point on being perched.
Everything so far is just from what the games have provided us too. This gets even more damning if we include the anime, where flying types like Ash's Charizard gets effected by magnitude by Gary's Golem, or when Ash's Staraptor gets effected by toxic spikes from Paul's Drapion. And why? Because both were in contact with the ground to receive the effects of both moves. Arguing against the idea that flying types don't have an actual legitimate resistance requires you to take the in-game treatment of Pokemon types to a very big degree and ignore a plethora of proofs, even from in-game, that prove the resistance is something born from a game mechanic in the first place itself.
TL;DR- The type standards for the most part are fine, but flying types being considered in having a resistance to earth manipulation is not. There is no real resistance at all, so any Pokemon pages like Charizard that have resistance for being a flying type need to get it removed.
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