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Killer Bee and Kisame's 6-C should have further reasoning added.
For Kisame, he's far stronger than Suigetsu (Chapter 404, page 12 and 13), he treated Suigetsu (Chapter 380, page 9 and 10) and even all of Taka (Chapter 380, page 7 and 8) as children throwing tantrums. Suigetsu with Tate Eboshi was capable of pushing back Killer Bee in Tailed Beast Mode (Chapter 418, page 4 and 5). Bee notes that Suigetsu was able to do this because he was a strong Water Style Shinobi and had the advantage of the terrain. Kisame is a superior Water Style user than Suigetsu, he practically owns the Water Element (Naruto Sha no Sho, page 272), and he can create massive amounts of water with a (Chapter 256, page 1 and 2) fraction (Chapter 258, page 7 and 8) of his chakra (Chapter 260, page 16) even whilst busy with a sealing jutsu with his main body. He could use to perform a similar feat as Suigetsu.
Kisame's Water Release was comparable to 6th Gate Guy because Asakujaku and (Chapter 506, page 11 and 12) Kisame's Thousand Feeding Sharks stalemated (Chapter 506, page 12 and 13), and 6th Gate Guy's Asakujaku (Chapter 568, page 4 and 5) was able to push back the acid of Saiken (Chapter 568, page 6), the Six Tails.
It was also evident that Daikodan was above the capacity of 6th Gate Guy to deal with (Chapter 507, page 2 and 3), it's one of Kisame's ultimate techniques which he notes is incredibly powerful, which is the greatest praise he's given in the series, as such it should be more powerful than Suigetsu's Tate Eboshi.
I think it's very consistent for Kisame to be in these ranges, he's a strong Akatsuki member people usually consider around the middle to above the middle but below the main power trio, so he should decisively be Kage-tier and most Kage have been listed as 6-C.
我愛羅をも掌握・・・!! 「忍」を超えた戦闘能力
Defeated even Gaara...!! Combat abilities that surpass that of shinobi.
忍の頂点 五影の一角である我愛羅が、 ”暁”の一員の手で倒された・・・その事実 は衝撃以外のなにものでもない。忍の 範疇を超えた暁 の武は、間違いなく 世界の脅威となる!
The fact that Gaara, one of the five Kage at the pinnacle of the ninja world, was defeated by a member of "Akatsuki" is nothing short of shocking. The prowess of Akatsuki, surpassing the realm of ninja, undoubtedly poses a threat to the world!
砂の里上空での交戦の 末に、”風影”敗れる・・・!!
After a battle in the skies above the Sand Village, the "Kazekage" was defeated...!!
(Naruto Hero Book by Kishimoto)
Killer Bee by the start of the war arc should be upgraded. Even in base, he's 6-C.
He was able (Chapter 543, page 13 and 14) to outmuscle A (Chapter 543, page 15 and 16) the Fourth Raikage, in a contest of strength. He was able to prove to the Raikage that (Chapter 543, page 9 and 10) he had been underestimating his base strength for years (Chapter 543, page 15) .
This could backscale to Kisame as well but probably not to Taka Sasuke since Kisame fought Killer Bee around the time of the five kage summit, which is very close to the start of the war chronologically.
It would make sense considering a weakened Kisame (Chapter 506, page 2 and 3) was able to take a full speed punch from KCM Naruto (Chapter 505, page 11 and 12) who hadn't even learnt to hold back yet.
And Naruto was about to go KCM against a weakened Kisame (Chapter 508) as seen here and here. When he clasps his hands, this usually means he's going to use KCM.
Thoughts?
Agree: Bastalon72, SlendVeny
Neutral:
Disagree:
For Kisame, he's far stronger than Suigetsu (Chapter 404, page 12 and 13), he treated Suigetsu (Chapter 380, page 9 and 10) and even all of Taka (Chapter 380, page 7 and 8) as children throwing tantrums. Suigetsu with Tate Eboshi was capable of pushing back Killer Bee in Tailed Beast Mode (Chapter 418, page 4 and 5). Bee notes that Suigetsu was able to do this because he was a strong Water Style Shinobi and had the advantage of the terrain. Kisame is a superior Water Style user than Suigetsu, he practically owns the Water Element (Naruto Sha no Sho, page 272), and he can create massive amounts of water with a (Chapter 256, page 1 and 2) fraction (Chapter 258, page 7 and 8) of his chakra (Chapter 260, page 16) even whilst busy with a sealing jutsu with his main body. He could use to perform a similar feat as Suigetsu.
Kisame's Water Release was comparable to 6th Gate Guy because Asakujaku and (Chapter 506, page 11 and 12) Kisame's Thousand Feeding Sharks stalemated (Chapter 506, page 12 and 13), and 6th Gate Guy's Asakujaku (Chapter 568, page 4 and 5) was able to push back the acid of Saiken (Chapter 568, page 6), the Six Tails.
It was also evident that Daikodan was above the capacity of 6th Gate Guy to deal with (Chapter 507, page 2 and 3), it's one of Kisame's ultimate techniques which he notes is incredibly powerful, which is the greatest praise he's given in the series, as such it should be more powerful than Suigetsu's Tate Eboshi.
I think it's very consistent for Kisame to be in these ranges, he's a strong Akatsuki member people usually consider around the middle to above the middle but below the main power trio, so he should decisively be Kage-tier and most Kage have been listed as 6-C.
我愛羅をも掌握・・・!! 「忍」を超えた戦闘能力
Defeated even Gaara...!! Combat abilities that surpass that of shinobi.
忍の頂点 五影の一角である我愛羅が、 ”暁”の一員の手で倒された・・・その事実 は衝撃以外のなにものでもない。忍の 範疇を超えた暁 の武は、間違いなく 世界の脅威となる!
The fact that Gaara, one of the five Kage at the pinnacle of the ninja world, was defeated by a member of "Akatsuki" is nothing short of shocking. The prowess of Akatsuki, surpassing the realm of ninja, undoubtedly poses a threat to the world!
砂の里上空での交戦の 末に、”風影”敗れる・・・!!
After a battle in the skies above the Sand Village, the "Kazekage" was defeated...!!
(Naruto Hero Book by Kishimoto)
Killer Bee by the start of the war arc should be upgraded. Even in base, he's 6-C.
He was able (Chapter 543, page 13 and 14) to outmuscle A (Chapter 543, page 15 and 16) the Fourth Raikage, in a contest of strength. He was able to prove to the Raikage that (Chapter 543, page 9 and 10) he had been underestimating his base strength for years (Chapter 543, page 15) .
This could backscale to Kisame as well but probably not to Taka Sasuke since Kisame fought Killer Bee around the time of the five kage summit, which is very close to the start of the war chronologically.
It would make sense considering a weakened Kisame (Chapter 506, page 2 and 3) was able to take a full speed punch from KCM Naruto (Chapter 505, page 11 and 12) who hadn't even learnt to hold back yet.
And Naruto was about to go KCM against a weakened Kisame (Chapter 508) as seen here and here. When he clasps his hands, this usually means he's going to use KCM.
Thoughts?
Agree: Bastalon72, SlendVeny
Neutral:
Disagree:
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