Naruto LS Revision: Part 3

[Kaydee1648]

Part 3/4. This thread is a continuation of this, and aims to serve as a clearer and more refined follow-up compared to this previous attempt I made a year ago.

To cut to the point, in this thread, the mass of Toneri’s Ginrin Tensei Baku was agreed upon by two cgm at the time. The major aim of this thread builds directly on that conclusion as well as the pre existing one that’s currently accepted on Shibai and Kaguya’s profile.

Spoiler: Cals used

Toneris big gold stick spreads some cheeks

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Revisiting Every Aspect of the Original SPCT

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Spoiler: Scaling Chain

• The Class E characters like Pre Shinju Absorption Madara scale to 1/2 of the lowest Class Z (500 quadrillion metric tons)
• The Class Z characters such as Kurama Six Paths Sage mode Naruto downscale from his Kurama Avatar (1 quintillion Metric Tons)
• Class Z characters such as Kaguya and Sasuke with Susano’o scale to Hagoromo Deva Path calc (45.407962 quintillion Metric Tons)
• The Class Z characters such as base Naruto downscale from the Ginrin Tensei Baku mass (1 quintillion Metric Tons)
• The Class Z characters such as Kashin Koji scale to 10% of the Ginrin Tensei Baku mass (1.91 quintillion metric tons)
• Class Z characters such as Toneri scale to the Golden Wheel calc (10.91 quintillion Metric Tons)
• Class Z characters such as Fused Momoshiki scale 2x above the Ginrin Tensei Baku (21.82 quintillion Metric Tons)
• The highest Class Z like MAS and Shibai scale 2x above Hagoromo Deva Path abilities (90.815924 quintillion Metric Tons)

Spoiler: Class Z Lore

Note: Not all of the following points are meant to be taken or interpreted literally, they provide a narrative consistency and help avoid any arguments that will stem from outlier.

• Hagoromo, despite possessing Class Z telekinesis, believed that sealing Kaguya was the only reliable way to defeat her, and he treated her as a ceiling of power in that context.
• Toneri, while capable of moving the Moon with telekinesis and having used telekinesis on base Naruto, did not attempt to use it on the much stronger version of Naruto.
• In the anime (secondary canon), Momoshiki is shown breaking free from the core of Sasuke’s Chibaku Tensei, which should reasonably be the same as Hagoromo’s.
• Kaguya was able to move and partially resist the pull of the Six-Paths Chibaku Tensei even while positioned at its center.
• Sasuke was able to push through the core of Madara’s Chibaku Tensei with his Susano’o blade.

Sandbox here

The next stop after this is to revise the Boruto low-mid tiers

Agree: Demon_Lord18, Wrath_Of_Itachi, DavidTPPM, karo_senpaii, Ghostimuscrime, AyOgUyS, XSOULOFCINDERX, LordTracer, R81handman, DarkDragonMedeus, Apex_Predator_GX, Syncornize,
MattaGrimm, Testarossa002, Godernet
Disagree:
Naruto can’t outbench me:

 

[Demon_Lord18]

Looks good

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

Looks Good

 

[DavidTPPM]

Whaaaat you're telling me rinnegan users can't just insta-crush any opponent in the verse but just choose not to? Whoa!

Jokes aside I obviously agree. This is extremely obvious and consistent with both the narrative and the feats shown on screen.

 

[karo_senpaii]

Naruto definitely ain't out benching me

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

Aside the lil thing I told you about in discord, all else looks good

 

[AyOgUyS]

agree

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

I agree with these upgrades.

 

[R81handman]

I agree with this.

 

[LordTracer]

Part II Naruto (Kurama Six Paths Sage Mode)

Shouldn't be drastically weaker than his boil release state

This part of the justification should be removed. Unless there’s an actual reason for the scaling here, don’t use “should/shouldn’t be” as a justification. Especially when the first sentence of his Boil Release justification is “The boil release greatly Increases Naruto's physical strength”. Does it “greatly increase” his strength, or is his SPSM not “drastically weaker”? You can’t have both.

Everything else is fine.

 

[Kaydee1648]

Part II Naruto (Kurama Six Paths Sage Mode)

This part of the justification should be removed. Unless there’s an actual reason for the scaling here, don’t use “should/shouldn’t be” as a justification. Especially when the first sentence of his Boil Release justification is “The boil release greatly Increases Naruto's physical strength”. Does it “greatly increase” his strength, or is his SPSM not “drastically weaker”? You can’t have both.

Everything else is fine.

Alright, removed.
thanks for your eval

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Part II Naruto (Kurama Six Paths Sage Mode)

This part of the justification should be removed. Unless there’s an actual reason for the scaling here, don’t use “should/shouldn’t be” as a justification. Especially when the first sentence of his Boil Release justification is “The boil release greatly Increases Naruto's physical strength”. Does it “greatly increase” his strength, or is his SPSM not “drastically weaker”? You can’t have both.

Everything else is fine.

Agreed with this.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

OP looks fine to me. Nice job, bro!

 

[Syncornize]

looks good to me

 

[MattaGrimm]

Everything here makes sense to me so far looks good I agree

 

[Testarossa002]

My personal preference aside, this is good to go
Nice work Kay

 

[Godernet]

This looks good

 

[Kaydee1648]

Thanks for your input
that’s a wrap then, I’ll apply this as soon as grace period is over

 

[Testarossa002]

My goat no longer gets out-benched by Deku

 

[Kaydee1648]

Changes have been applied
this can be closed now

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Will do the honors, thank you all for helping out.