It's funny because Naruto pointed out Neji didn't even believe himself with his logic, if he truly was fated to be inferior to the Main Branch he would never have beat Hinata and yet he did...easily at that.Istg if I see another person saying Neji was right all along I'm 64 palming the community
Reason I asked is cause the Rinnegan is a gift directly from hags with his chakra, and though that the chakra was what gave sasu his resistance
All things considered, if we wanna talk destiny, Neji was born to a prestigious clan and had a Kekkei Genkai. He's directly related to the clan's leader, and his father surpassed the clan leader despite having access to fewer resources. He is taught by the greatest Taijutsu master of all time, and he has 3 Chakra Natures going for him. If anyone should be talking shit, it's Lee and Tenten. Neji is the strongest of the 3 solely because of his bloodline.
Also, "boohoo a guy like me can never be Hokage!" You know who actually earned all his power? Shikamaru. He didn't get where he is because of some special eyes, he got there because he's smart. His special powers are stuff you have to have taught to you, and he actually has other techniques.
Plus his kekkei genkai was passed down by the goddess of Chakra herself.
Minato also basically got to Hokage by himself, since his clan was nothing special except for him and he did perfect the Flying Raijin that Tobirama created.
Since when did he scale to kcm2? I’d image kakshi would be higher then base naruto if guy is his rival
Ignore that, just woke up and misread Minato’s reply
Wasn’t obito baiting him to run him through or something?
He was but he still needed to make it convincing so he had to go all out.
did he? He said he let him win sooo…
He doesn’t, War Arc Kakashi and Rinnegan Obito scale to KCM.
Kakashi said early in Shippuden that Base Nard was relative to him, and superior with Rasenshuriken.
Didn’t obito let him win? In there fight in the kamui dimension?
I'm pretty sure Naruto on his own beats the Five Kage after he masters KCM1.
Nah this is pre Kurama friendship KCM1 Naruto.
Separate Half of his power are distinct in nature.
Jiraiya be Wilding
part 1 naruto was really built different
He manipulated the fight so that Kakashi would Raikiri his heart but he’s still taking damage from Kakashi’s physical attacks,
Above Kakashi in physicals, but with Sharingan Shenanigans and Ninjutsu, Kakashi can kinda compete
Sure but obito doesn’t really have much in the way of piercing dura feats.
Then I’d think he’d still be above base naruto
True but I mainly meant that Kakashi has hurt Obito with punches and kicks outside of Raikiri.
War Arc Kakashi > Early Shippuden Kakashi, albeit not by as much as some people believe.
Via quite a few avenues. As others have mentioned he fought Rinnegan Obito, and you can't really say Obito was holding back physically since Kakashi very much saw Obito fighting earlier and would know if he was holding back, plus Kakashi after seeing Obito keeping up with KCM2 Naruto thought he could take Obito out. He recovered from Kamui faster and could've killed Obito. Kakashi's fast enough to target a moving KCM2 clone with Kamui. He's able to tag team with Minato with Black Zetsu considering both similarly bothersome foes and everyone seeming to be in the same condition after the fight, and Minato even thought Kakashi could hold BZ Obito off one on one despite them not being able to beat him as a team, and KCM2 Naruto's speed is compared to Minato's. Kakashi also literally outsped a KCM2 clone to tag Obito first despite starting behind Naruto.
I liked at there manga fight and it’s doesn’t really look like there hurting him tbh
I guess that’s fair but like even part 1 kamashi was keeping up with guy so idk
So based actually
Kakashi never really refuted obito only letting him win so I don’t think that really matters. So kakashi can beat kcm2 naruto? I don’t think being a diversion is to big a deal but ok
I think his Raikiri is scaled to 21.5 GT tho.
What Obito said was not proof he was holding back, he was pretty much just saying he may have lost against Kakashi, but he'll still achieve his goal. Saying you'll let someone win in defeat is not very good evidence that they're holding back, if anything it sounds like cope on his part.
I mean I don't think he's physically as strong as Naruto, but he scales with ninjutsu and is almost as fast.
Isn't it only his Avatar that could do that?
Ya it was like a partial transformation or something like that
