Ness vs Ryuko

[Arrogant_Schmuck]

Two spammed characters in VSBW fight each other. HOW INNOVATIVE

Pre-Magicant vs Life Fiber Synchronize (Both 7-C)

Win via KO, incapacitation, or death. SPEED EQUALIZED

 

[MrKingOfNegativity]

I'm probably going to have go with Ness on this one.

For starters, a good instant-death move pretty much nulls any regen below a certain level, and Ryuko's regen generally seems to fall in that category of not saving her from it..

Sleep and Paralysis are probably going to be major factors as well, being solid, effective ways to incapacitate due to lack of resistance. And the kid has a forcefield which reflects physical damage back onto his attacker, so even those zenkai boosts of hers are just going to end up setting her back.

Even in-character, it seems like the match just boils down to whether or not he can last long enough to OHK, and I honestly feel like he will.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

How does his OHK work?

 

[Schnee_One]

Sort of a death spell IIRC

Course Sleep inducement also works.

 

[Arrogant_Schmuck]

I believe someone said it's an ability which either causes uncontrollable crying or has a low chance of OHKO.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Gargoyle Since when is PK Flash Death Manipulation?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Starry Yes but HOW does it OHKO?

 

[MrKingOfNegativity]

Pretty sure he has PK Freeze, also. Pretty much does exactly what it says.

I don't know the exact nature of his OHK, though.

 

[Arrogant_Schmuck]

I don't know, I haven't played Earthbound. I'm just going off of what I've been told.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

I'd like to know how exactly PK Flash OHKs before giving a vote, from its description it doesnt actually seem like an actual OHK, more like its just an extremely strong attack

 

[Arrogant_Schmuck]

Get Dark or Arbitrary in here

 

[Kellex]

@WeeklyBattles

I've play Earthbound myself and I've got a few OHK myself out of nowhere during the play.

However, it's a very low chance that it would happen and most of the time it's Status Effects Inducements that would come out of it.


The only way to get it work is by spamming it until it happens.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

She's done in by PK Paralysis. He can either leave her there to die or spam PK Flash until he gets insta-death.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

What im asking is what kind of OHK is PK Flash. From the descrption of the ability it doesnt sound like anything other than a powerful attack

 

[WeeklyBattles]

She's done in by PK Paralysis. He can either leave her there to die or spam PK Flash until he gets insta-death.

Do you know how PK Flash is an OHK?

 

[Kellex]

Oh, and @MrKingOfNegativity:

Only Paula and Poo have PSI Freeze in Earthbound, not Ness.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

It literally just instantly kills. Just like every other OHKO in most JRPGs.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Cal But. HOW? Is it death manip or something?

 

[MrKingOfNegativity]

Oh, and @MrKingOfNegativity:
Only Paula and Poo have PSI Freeze in Earthbound, not Ness.

Ah, that seems like the truth. Thanks for clearing that up.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

If PK Flash isnt some sort of death manipulation then i dont see how it would put Ryuko down

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Death as a status. Or death manipulation, idk.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

...What? That's literally just killing the opponent with a strong attack.

 

[MrKingOfNegativity]

I mean, if he has paralysis and sleep, he could just go for the incapacitation route regardless. He doesn't seem like the kind of character who would kill a person while they're incapacitated/unable to harm him in any way. (Not factoring in the gameplay-induced instances of this.)

Sleep inducement would probably be a win for him, especially given the other factors.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

How long does the sleep status work for?

 

[MrKingOfNegativity]

Sleep supposedly lasts for "2-4 turns" in-game. I have no idea what that translates to in real-time.

Paralysis, from what I can tell, is indefinite unless something comes along and removes it.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

For it to be used as a method of inca it would have to last over an hour

Would her regen allow her to heal paralysis?

 

[Noahkaismith]

Can her regen heal a magical curse placed on her?

 

[Noahkaismith]

Also, Ness fra.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Sleep only lasts turns , potentially can wake up aftet being attacked .

 

[MrKingOfNegativity]

Again, not sure how "turns" would translate to real-time, so I dunno.

I have no idea how regen would be enough to deal with your entire body being paralyzed. It's not damage, so there's nothing to regen from.

 

[Arrogant_Schmuck]

Dark and ArbitraryNumbers are listed as Knowledgeable on Earthbound. Maybe see if one of them can provide their own input?

 

[Noahkaismith]

Dark and ArbitraryNumbers are listed as Knowledgeable on Earthbound. Maybe see if one of them can provide their own input?

I'd like to say I'm pretty knowledgeable on Earthbound, so I'll probably know. Are you asking about the OHKO or the Paralysis?

 

[Arrogant_Schmuck]

I believe both would be optimal to explain.

 

[Noahkaismith]

Well, the OHKO is kind of vague, but it seems to be a regular attack that is far above Ness's regular limits. It's actually pretty common for a instant kill with Omega PK Flash. 40% chance to instant kill, 35% chance to make the enemies cry, and a 15% chance to paralyze. PK Paralysis, from what I know, makes it difficult for the opponent to move by making their body "numb." It likely cuts off conection to your nerves.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Noah So...its not an actual OHK, its just a stronger attack?

Im not sure how much cutting off connection to the nerves would do to Ryuko considering she's half Life Fiber.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

The kill depends on the enemy , it isva varying chance .

Cutting off nerves is not likely , that is headcanon , nothing even hints at that . 37.5 to kill , and not factoring the opponent .

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

The attack is random , it doesnt do actual damage .

Not gonna fall under stronger attack weekly .

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

I'm pretty sure PK Flash isn't a OHKO. It's most consistent attributes is making enemies feel numb or causing them to cry.

Also, keep in mind OHK's in Earthbound work a little different given the context. Outside of a select few bosses, they don't kill or even knockout their targets, they make them "tame". This is because most the random encounters are mind controlled. I think PK Flash moreso breaks that mind control, which is more consistent with the Mind/Emotion/Bodily hax it can perform.

At least, that's just my thoughts. I haven't played Earthbound in a few years.

 

[Noahkaismith]

I'm pretty sure PK Flash isn't a OHKO. It's most consistent attributes is making enemies feel numb or causing them to cry.
Also, keep in mind OHK's in Earthbound work a little different given the context. Outside of a select few bosses, they don't kill or even knockout their targets, they make them "tame". This is because most the random encounters are mind controlled. I think PK Flash moreso breaks that mind control, which is more consistent with the Mind/Emotion/Bodily hax it can perform.

At least, that's just my thoughts. I haven't played Earthbound in a few years.

Make a content revision.

 

[Noahkaismith]

The kill depends on the enemy , it isva varying chance .
Cutting off nerves is not likely , that is headcanon , nothing even hints at that . 37.5 to kill , and not factoring the opponent .

We don't know the chances of PK Flash on Ryuko, so it's safe to assume that it's the regular chance.