NGNL upgrades

[Satanichia_Chlammy_Mafahl]

Artosh

Artosh (アルトシュ, Arutoshu) is the creator of Flügel and considered to be the "God of War". He was the strongest member of Old Deus and died during the events of Great War. Tier: At least High 6-A, likely far higher | Unknown Key: Old Deus | True Form Name: Artosh Origin: No Game No Life Gender...

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Holou

Holou (帆楼ほろう, Horō) is the Goddess of Doubt and Trust, and the creator of Ex-Machina. She was the first and therefore oldest conscious being in the world. She is currently the self-proclaimed representative of the Old Deus, but her possession of the Race Piece has yet to be determined. She...

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Looking at the stats that just 'Unknown' seem not good, will be better if upscaling it from Jibril.

So their first keys should be chnaged to this; At least High 6-A, likely Far Higher

 

[WanderingGecko]

And why would they both upscale from Jibril ?

 

[Satanichia_Chlammy_Mafahl]

And why would they both upscale from Jibril ?

Good question.

It's simple, they're much stronger than her.

 

[WanderingGecko]

Is there any proof to this ? Or is it a narrative thing ?

 

[Satanichia_Chlammy_Mafahl]

Thats why this will be scaling, even though they have no evidence that say blatantly. In this verse, high ranks is far superior than low ranks, so it should not be issue.

 

[WanderingGecko]

So there’s blatantly no proof that those two have superiority over Jibril and it’s just based on your assumption ?

 

[Satanichia_Chlammy_Mafahl]

So there’s blatantly no proof that those two have superiority over Jibril and it’s just based on your assumption ?

In this verse, high ranks is far superior than low ranks, so it should not be issue.

 

[WanderingGecko]

So it’s because of a rank difference ? I guess that makes sense.

 

[Satanichia_Chlammy_Mafahl]

Yeah thats how it works, basically Old Deus indeed stronger than Creatures bc Old Deus (1st rank) themselves created the lower ranks.

 

[Delta333]

Agree and this is obvious tbh, not because of rank difference but because Artosh is literally one of the strongest characters in the verse and Jibril is nothing more than his loyal servant that he created lol

 

[Satanichia_Chlammy_Mafahl]

Even the combined attacks of the lower ranks still unable to match Artosh's attacks, and those attacks were fundamentally stronger than Jibril's Heavenly Smite which currently rated as High 6-A...

 

[Dereck03]

Agree with scale them above Jibril.

 

[YamaClass]

Agree with this upgrades.

 

[Dereck03]

You can try to get 1 staff more agree since this thread is pretty simple and rather uncontroversial.

 

[Satanichia_Chlammy_Mafahl]

Alright

 

[Duedate8898]

Looks cool

 

[Dereck03]

@ChlammyMafahl Feel free to apply this.

 

[Satanichia_Chlammy_Mafahl]

I will apply the changes

 

[Satanichia_Chlammy_Mafahl]

Changes already applied, this thread can be closed.

Thanks to everyone who has helped here.

 

[Duedate8898]

No problem, and closing