Not sure if this is a stomp - Carnage VS DIO

[EnnardTrap1987]

Both High 8-C

Speed equalised

High DIO is used (Just so both are LBL+ to make it more fair.)

THIS IS NOT.. OKAY!: 0

KONO DIO DA: 0

Tie:

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

What are Carnage's wincons? Because from what I can tell, The World has a much greater AP advantage to the point he should be able to stomp Carnage with ease. The scaling chain from what I can tell is:

4.43 Tons = Spider Man < Venom = Large Building level+ baseline < Carnage

7.83 Tons < DIU Star Platinum < Part 3 Star Platinum < The World < Enraged Star Platinum < HIGH The World

And Time Stop and THE WORLD being a stand means Carnage has no way to counter The World.

 

[The_Impress]

...why is the World even listed High 8-C then?

 

[DaReaperMan]

...why is the World even listed High 8-C then?

Because of how strict upscaling into other tiers is. 7.8 tons isn't on the dick of 8-B enough to upscale.

 

[AceOfSpaces3709]

What are Carnage's wincons? Because from what I can tell, The World has a much greater AP advantage to the point he should be able to stomp Carnage with ease. The scaling chain from what I can tell is:

4.43 Tons = Spider Man < Venom = Large Building level+ baseline < Carnage

7.83 Tons < DIU Star Platinum < Part 3 Star Platinum < The World < Enraged Star Platinum < HIGH The World

And Time Stop and THE WORLD being a stand means Carnage has no way to counter The World.

I could be wrong but wasn’t Carnage described as being stronger than Spider Man and Venom put together? (8.90 Tons?) While Carnage can’t see or interact with The World, the latter has no reliable method of killing Carnage as he can regenerate from as small as a single cell. Carnage can mind hax Dio if he gets close enough but Dio can keep him away with The World which Carnage can’t really do anything about. So this match sounds a bit like a no contest to me.

 

[DaReaperMan]

I could be wrong but wasn’t Carnage described as being stronger than Spider Man and Venom put together? (8.90 Tons?) While Carnage can’t see or interact with The World, the latter has no reliable method of killing Carnage as he can regenerate from as small as a single cell. Carnage can mind hax Dio if he gets close enough but Dio can keep him away with The World which Carnage can’t really do anything about. So this match sounds a bit like a no contest to me.

Not used in scaling and Impress is gonna crucify you for even mentioning that.

 

[The_Impress]

Not really, am gonna call you silly for taking that literally though.

Anyways Carnage scales >>> Venom = Nova = Rhino = Mettle = 7.98 tons, so the World ain't likely to be majorly higher

High 8-C has two different chainscalings.

 

[Confluctor]

Carnage described as being stronger than Spider Man and Venom put together?

Yeah, at least was in Maximum Carnage where bro was unstoppable by Spidey, Venom and like 2 other ones.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Not really, am gonna call you silly for taking that literally though.

Anyways Carnage scales >>> Venom = Nova = Rhino = Mettle = 7.98 tons, so the World ain't likely to be majorly higher

High 8-C has two different chainscalings.

Ah I see. I didn't know there was another High 8-C calc

Because of how strict upscaling into other tiers is. 7.8 tons isn't on the dick of 8-B enough to upscale.

^. IIRC, the gap needed for an upscale now is like, under 1.2x.

 

[Baken384]

The World was bullying Star Platinum and then SP got its rage boost, potent enough to literally land one shots and was essentially dusting The World all around. Then The World got its joseph boost to the point he started to bully the angry star platinum who was pulling off one shots against him earlier. idk if this helps against Carnage but hmm

 

[Baken384]

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