Novel Kars' durability

[Standuser081]

Ok, so I noticed that the durability section in Kars' page is a bit fishy. C-moon's durability is written as "At least Large Building level with C-Moon Ultimate (Comparable if not above the original C-Moon)", but that's wrong because the original C-moo has Unknow listed as his durability. Same goes for MIHUR as it's durability is listed as Universe level+, despite the fact that there is no justification for this.

So these are my proposed revisions:

C-moon's dura: At least Large Building level --> Unknow

MIHUR's dura: Universe level+ --> City Block level+ by comparing to the original Made in Heaven

 

[Standuser081]

Bump

 

[Antvasima]

I suppose that this seems to make sense, but you should check the Knowledgeable Members List and the supporters & neutral sections of the JoJo's Bizarre Adventure verse page to find people to ask to comment here.

 

[Standuser081]

Bump

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Makes sense to me. While we are at it, we should update the ability listing for D4CU which was supposed to be changed a while ago

 

[Antvasima]

You should ask ProfessorLord to comment here.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

This is correct.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

If I recall, J-Man stated that in the novel, MiHU was capable of attacking with Low 2-C attacks physically.

Other than that, I agree with C-Moon's change.

 

[DMB_1]

I believe that it was supposed to be removed when he got downgraded from Low 2-C to 6-B, and when MiH's durability was downgraded from Low 2-C to Unknown. It seems people just forgot to do so twice.

Anyways, I agree.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

If I recall, J-Man stated that in the novel, MiHU was capable of attacking with Low 2-C attacks physically.
Other than that, I agree with C-Moon's change.

He doesn't.

 

[Standuser081]

Bump

 

[Standuser081]

Bump

 

[Antvasima]

I suppose that this seems to make sense, but you should check the Knowledgeable Members List and the supporters & neutral sections of the JoJo's Bizarre Adventure verse page to find people to ask to comment here.

Did you do this?

 

[Standuser081]

I did, but only messaged the ones I know who are knowledgable on the novel.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. It might be a good idea to message the others as well then.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

I agreee. It seems sensible

 

[Antvasima]

Did you ask ProfessorLord?

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Professor Lord in my experience prefers not to touch Jorge Joestar material

 

[Antvasima]

Well, you can try to ask him at least.

 

[Antvasima]

You can also ask some random administrators and discussion moderators to give input here: VS Battles Staff

 

[ProfessorLord]

I am only knowledgeable on canon JoJo material, sorry.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. You could try to evaluate this anyway though. You still know more than I do.

 

[ProfessorLord]

I agree with changing the Made In Heaven Ultimate Nonsense or whatever to be comparable to the original Made in Heaven.

C-Moon should be comparable to Whitesnake as it is just an evolved form, so I am unsure as to why we have the durability as unknown, they should scale to one another.

I think we change both C-Moon's to be City Block level+ on the basis that they are at least comparable to the previous form, Whitesnake. C-Moon is just a fusion of two stands. It's like fusing Goku and Vegeta to get Gogeta; he should at least be comparable to Goku in durability.

 

[ProfessorLord]

Furthermore it has already physically fought Stone Free, who is City Block level+

So I propose we change both C-Moon's to City Block level+

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. I suppose that seems fine then.

 

[Someone_who_likes_to_read]

We can't truly escale the Whitesnake of Kars to his C-moon actually for 3 reasons:

• C-moon did not fought Stone Free he fought Jollyne also he was able to dodge all the attacks of SF while he received damage of a kick of Jollyne.

• Pucci profile says that C-moon lose his physical power to a unknown extent.

• C-moon Ultimate Requiem (Yes, Kars copy is a Requiem stand) only was mentioned for a few times on the novel and actually it did nothing he only floated in the sky, nobody attacked it, and Kars didn't even had control over it because DIO was forcing him to evolve in MIHUR.

 

[ProfessorLord]

That's not true, there's an explicit scan where Stone Free is manifested and straight up uppercuts C-Moon away.

Fair enough, but an unknown extent can also be a miniscule extent. It can also be interpreted as punching power. This is also contradicted by C-Moon actively fighting Stone Free and recieving several blows while walking it off a few seconds later, so I'm inclined to say that if he did lose any strength it's not much seeing as how he can still contend with an 8-B+

C-Moon Ultimate Requiem should scale with the regular C-Moon I think, unless there is a reason for them not to. Not sure when it comes to this non-canon stuff to be honest.

 

[ProfessorLord]

 

[Someone_who_likes_to_read]

And he received 0 damage instead see page 9 were Jollyne kicks him and he starts bleeding, as we can see in page 12.

 

[ProfessorLord]

Since her stand is literally 100x stronger than herself, I am inclined to say the blood pouring out when she kicked it but not when her stand uppercutted it is because of plot induced stupidity.