Omega Asgore..? (Undertale Spoilers)

[ShinyMagicalGirl]

No seriously. Why didn't Asgore do that? He was already warned twice, first by Alphys and second by Flowey. Omega Asgore would be able to fight Chara, me thinks. Why. Didn't. Asgore. Think of that!? It would be so cool, and Asgore would be able to redeem himself!

How do you think it would go down? Omega Asgore VS Chara!

 

[Promestein]

It's not that he didn't think of it, it's that he didn't want to. He wasn't willing to use the souls like that.

 

[ShinyMagicalGirl]

It's not that he didn't think of it, it's that he didn't want to. He wasn't willing to use the souls like that.

Against the end of entire multiverse, I would assume there would be nothing left to lose.

 

[Promestein]

Asgore wasn't aware that that's what was at stake.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Asgore is a massive softie and also very, very indecisive with his choices. He had no idea the true danger that was coming.

 

[Kevinyang1]

Chara would win.

You know why?

Because Undyne the Undying has more health than Omega Flowey, and Chara killed them at LV 9.

LV 20 Chara can deal "99999999" damage to Mettaton NEO, who as far as we are aware, is extremely strong due to the amount of EXP you get from killing him. Also, Chara is shown to be stronger than Omega Flowey because Chara's damage far outweighs Omega Flowey's defence, since Omega Flowey destroyed the world, but still regarded monsters and humans as things that still existed, and apparently didn't destroy the barrier, and no restoration was really required after you killed him, as you don't actually RESET or SAVE and LOAD after beating him and receiving the epilogue, meaning Omega Flowey didn't destroy the Underground as wholly as we think. Chara on the other hand, was able to EFFORTLESSLY destroy literally everything, and was capable of restoring the entire Underground, and we know that they truly did destroy everything due to the fact that you couldn't keep playing, but just in a world with no living monsters. Every last bit of matter was destroyed.


Asgore is definitely stronger than Flowey, but original SOUL strength doesn't actually affect the strength of the transformation much. If Asgore's SOUL is worth 0.01 human SOULs, which let's be honest, that is a very generous estimate, then Asgore + 6 human SOULs would be worth 6.01 human SOULs. Flowey has no soul, so he is equal to 6 human SOULs, but his DETERMINATION which far outweighs Asgore's is somehow able to give him some kind of fascmile of a SOUL as he is still able to gain LV and EXP, unless SOULs aren't as useful as we thought and are completely independent of XP, LV and DETERMINATION, in which case Flowey only lost to Asgore due to his inferior fighting experience. In any case, Chara would easily win against Omega Asgore.

 

[Dexteradon12]

Chara would win.
You know why?

Because Undyne the Undying has more health than Omega Flowey, and Chara killed them at LV 9.

LV 20 Chara can deal "99999999" damage to Mettaton NEO, who as far as we are aware, is extremely strong due to the amount of EXP you get from killing him. Also, Chara is shown to be stronger than Omega Flowey because Chara's damage far outweighs Omega Flowey's defence, since Omega Flowey destroyed the world, but still regarded monsters and humans as things that still existed, and apparently didn't destroy the barrier, and no restoration was really required after you killed him, as you don't actually RESET or SAVE and LOAD after beating him and receiving the epilogue, meaning Omega Flowey didn't destroy the Underground as wholly as we think. Chara on the other hand, was able to EFFORTLESSLY destroy literally everything, and was capable of restoring the entire Underground, and we know that they truly did destroy everything due to the fact that you couldn't keep playing, but just in a world with no living monsters. Every last bit of matter was destroyed.


Asgore is definitely stronger than Flowey, but original SOUL strength doesn't actually affect the strength of the transformation much. If Asgore's SOUL is worth 0.01 human SOULs, which let's be honest, that is a very generous estimate, then Asgore + 6 human SOULs would be worth 6.01 human SOULs. Flowey has no soul, so he is equal to 6 human SOULs, but his DETERMINATION which far outweighs Asgore's is somehow able to give him some kind of fascmile of a SOUL as he is still able to gain LV and EXP, unless SOULs aren't as useful as we thought and are completely independent of XP, LV and DETERMINATION, in which case Flowey only lost to Asgore due to his inferior fighting experience. In any case, Chara would easily win against Omega Asgore.

Maybe it works through multiplication, and not addition. We can't really know the exact function of how this works I'm afraid.