One Piece 3D2Y is canon to the manga

[SpeedblitzDuraNeg]

The events of 3D2Y will explicitly be discussed only as they pertain to canonicity, this thread does not aim to evaluate any potential profile changes. The first section of the thread will focus on all evidence suggesting that 3D2Y is canon to the manga timeline, while the closing section will address the faults of what appears to be the most recent attempt at canonizing 3D2Y, as well as any potential misconceptions. Since the Ace novel and manga are accepted as canon, I will mention similarities between the reasons for that acceptance and the suggested reasons of this thread.




The original characters are stated to be crucial for the episode, and they are confirmed to be illustrated by Oda in addition to them being specifically written by Oda for the episode.


Oda approved the idea of 3D2Y focusing on Luffy’s timeskip training.

Katsuhira directly says that 3D2Y intersects with the main plotline. Teramoto says that because of this connection, they asked Oda to review the script once.


Teramoto mentions Oda talking about a festival vibe, showing that in addition to reviewing the script, he also gave suggestions which were implemented in the episode.


Teramoto says that 3D2Y bridges the two-year gap in the manga and TV series.


3D2Y reveals the name of the liquor used in the scene of Luffy, Ace and Sabo drinking.


3D2Y is included in a recommended chronological viewing order on the official One Piece website.

(for ace novel)

The Ace novel is accepted as canon, and also features similar involvement from Oda.

The Ace novel is also described as intersecting with the One Piece world.

An accepted addition for Ace mentions the One Piece wiki’s acceptance of the novel as canon.

3D2Y fits this description, as it is an official work supervised by Oda, and also has no contradictions.

All vivre cards are supervised by Oda.

“Ignite the fist with hyper-acceleration!!

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Hyper

Acceleration

Replicate Ace's “Fire Fist”!!”

Luffy’s Vivre Card mentions that Red Hawk replicates Ace’s Fire Fist. In the Manga, Ace is never mentioned in correlation to Red Hawk.

Ace appears when Red Hawk is used to defeat Byrnndi World, matching the canon description of the Vivre Card

Response to refutations from a previous thread

One Piece: Canonicity of 3D2Y there

Canonicity of 3D2Y In a interview conducted with the assistant producer of the 3d2y movie, it was stated that the movie was an addition to luffy’s 2 year training period and followed the original story line .Its also stated that Oda was okay with this addition which further proves that it is...

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#21

"I'm not sure how this is any kind of support for canonicity; they asked Oda to draw a design and he drew a design for them. Doesn't make the character himself canon.



From what I can tell this isn't written or supervised by Oda. Just because Oda said it was okay for them go ahead with it doesn't mean he approved of it being considered canon to his manga. I wouldn't be surprised if he gave the go-ahead with lots of filler ideas but that doesn't mean they're canon.



Maybe it can be considered "canon" towards the anime series, but I would not use this as the basis to judge the manga's scaling."



Oda was involved with both the illustration AND writing process for the characters. Oda reviewed the script and approved their ideas.



#37

"It doesn't say it connects to the original story. It says it "connects the two years after and the two years before".



As far as the original story is concerned, the events in the timeskip haven't been covered yet. There's no confirmation that it lines up with the TV special at all. If we do get confirmation later on, such as references to the events or characters, then fine, but until then I am 100% against this."



Katsuhira directly states that 3D2Y intersects with the main plotline.



#45

"Im saying that's in my opinion it's a filler movie to fill the gap in the 2 year gap."

The writers specifically wrote the episode with the intent of it intersecting with the main story, and Oda was directly involved with the character writing process.



#129

"•we should that oda was involved in it (he created world character)

Oda creating a character design =/= the character is canonical to the series. It's just a design he provided; not a blanket approval that everything they do with the character is canon."

Oda created both the character design and the actual narrative aspect of the characters.


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The official One Piece website confirms that

• The enemies were written by Oda specifically for the episode.
• The original characters are crucial to the episode.
• Byrnndi World was illustrated by Oda.
• The writers felt that the manga and anime did not explore Luffy's time skip training in depth, which inspired the idea for the episode.
• The writers presented the concept to Oda alongside the aforementioned reasoning and he gave them the OK.
• Teramoto says 3D2Y is a story that intersects with the main plotline.
• Termaoto says this intersection is why they had Oda review the script.
• Teramoto mentions implementing a festival vibe that Oda talked about, showing that Oda’s suggestions are in the episode.
• Teramoto refers to 3D2Y as a key episode that bridges the two year gap in both the manga and anime.
• The brand of the liquor shown in the scene of Luffy/Ace/Sabo’s ritual is revealed in 3D2Y.
• 3D2Y is included in a chronological timeline available on the official One Piece website.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Neutral atm, but we should use Human translators look at the Japanese text instead of using Google Translate or anything of that nature. Pretty much the first half of the uploaded images appear to be that. Though I see merit in other posts and notes.

 

[SpeedblitzDuraNeg]

Neutral atm, but we should use Human translators look at the Japanese text instead of using Google Translate or anything of that nature. Pretty much the first half of the uploaded images appear to be that. Though I see merit in other posts and notes.

The first half uses DeepTL and the second half uses Google Translate. I'll submit a translation request for the excerpts that have the most credence.

 

[SpeedblitzDuraNeg]

Submitted a translation request here. If you feel neutral about this revision, please specify if you would change your stance to agree if it turns out that the human translation gives a similar sentiment to the ones alleged in the post.

 

[Billybobjoe321]

I’m pretty sure oda considers all of the movies non-canon

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One Piece: Oda Confirms The Canonicity Of The OP Movies

One Piece fans are always wondering if the movies are canon or not. Oda reveals the answer in the newest SBS.

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[SpeedblitzDuraNeg]

I’m pretty sure oda considers all of the movies non-canon

SBS Volume 109

This is the collection of SBS sections from Volume 109. D (Dokusha means Reader) O (Oda) O: (Whew) Right now... I'm flying over the ocean... A while ago a large man asked me "Where would you like to go if you were to travel?" So I said "Well, I'd like to see the Aurora in Antarctica..."...

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One Piece: Oda Confirms The Canonicity Of The OP Movies

One Piece fans are always wondering if the movies are canon or not. Oda reveals the answer in the newest SBS.

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3D2Y is a TV special, not a movie.

 

[Billybobjoe321]

3D2Y is a TV special, not a movie.

Even if it wasn’t, the same reasoning of why he doesn’t consider the movies canon also applies to 3D2Y. He says he doesn’t want to make any movies canon because then readers would be obligated to watch it if they wanted to get the full story

 

[SpeedblitzDuraNeg]

Even if it wasn’t, the same reasoning of why he doesn’t consider the movies canon also applies to 3D2Y. He says he doesn’t want to make any movies canon because then readers would be obligated to watch it if they wanted to get the full story

However, if it wasn't for the movie, Shiki wouldn't have eaten the Fuwa Fuwa no Mi. I had a rule in my mind to not include characters who could fly or float freely in the sky, so I sealed the Fuwa Fuwa no Mi away

3D2Y does not break or contradict any rules Oda set up for the manga.

 

[Billybobjoe321]

3D2Y does not break or contradict any rules Oda set up for the manga.

Thats not what I’m referring to. I’m referring to the reason why oda doesn’t consider any of the movies canon. Not the rules he has for the manga

 

[SpeedblitzDuraNeg]

Thats not what I’m referring to. I’m referring to the reason why oda doesn’t consider any of the movies canon. Not the rules he has for the manga

Well, it's possible to incorporate most movies into the story, even if it is a bit forced, but then it would make watching the movie obligatory,

He says this because of the idiosyncrasies that the movies have, as he later states was the reason for him choosing for that devil fruit to be in the movie. None of these contradictions are in TV specials, they are literally recommended as apart of the chronological timeline while movies are not.

 

[SpeedblitzDuraNeg]

Thats not what I’m referring to. I’m referring to the reason why oda doesn’t consider any of the movies canon. Not the rules he has for the ma

He specifically only mentions the issues with MOVIES and the timeline. Clearly this wouldn't be an issue with the 3D2Y special as he literally approved of the idea of it intersecting with the main plot, gave the screenwriters suggestions, and was involved with the writing process. Many One Piece movies have various plot holes that would make them incongruent with the story (Film Red shows Big Mom as a Yonko, but Luffy has Gear 5), or events that would be considered major to the story (Luffy teaming up with Shanks in Film Red). The are no events in 3D2Y that would make it mandatory for viewing, as it only has light supplemental information about Luffy's timeskip training.

 

[Billybobjoe321]

He says this because of the idiosyncrasies that the movies have

None of these contradictions are in TV specials

But that was not the reason Oda gave. He didn’t say he doesn’t consider them canon because of any contradictions, he even says its possible to incorporate most of them into canon if he wanted to, but the reason he doesn’t consider any of them canon is because it would make it obligatory for readers to watch them to get the full story, which applies to 3D2Y.

 

[SpeedblitzDuraNeg]

But that was not the reason Oda gave. He didn’t say he doesn’t consider them canon because of any contradictions, he even says its possible to incorporate most of them into canon if he wanted to, but the reason he doesn’t consider any of them canon is because it would make it obligatory for readers to watch them to get the full story, which applies to 3D2Y.

He doesn't consider any of the movies canon. 3D2Y is not a movie. There are no major events in 3D2Y, nothing about it would make it apart of the mandatory story.

 

[Billybobjoe321]

He doesn't consider any of the movies canon. 3D2Y is not a movie. There are no major events in 3D2Y, nothing about it would make it apart of the mandatory story.

You are kind of missing my point. What major events it has doesn’t really matter. Major events are not the reason Oda considers non of the movies canon. If it was canon, readers would be obligated to watch it to get the full story, which is the reason why Oda doesn’t consider any movies canon. And I’m pretty sure like all of these points have been gone over before

One Piece: Canonicity of 3D2Y there

Canonicity of 3D2Y In a interview conducted with the assistant producer of the 3d2y movie, it was stated that the movie was an addition to luffy’s 2 year training period and followed the original story line .Its also stated that Oda was okay with this addition which further proves that it is...

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[SpeedblitzDuraNeg]

You are kind of missing my point. What major events it has doesn’t really matter. Major events are not the reason Oda considers non of the movies canon. If it was canon, readers would be obligated to watch it to get the full story, which is the reason why Oda doesn’t consider any movies canon. And I’m pretty sure like all of these points have been gone over before

One Piece: Canonicity of 3D2Y there

Canonicity of 3D2Y In a interview conducted with the assistant producer of the 3d2y movie, it was stated that the movie was an addition to luffy’s 2 year training period and followed the original story line .Its also stated that Oda was okay with this addition which further proves that it is...

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I’m probably not going to respond further. I’m not staff. I’m just leaving my argument against it here.

Clockworld Island Adventure: The Going Merry is stolen, and the antagonist of the film kidnaps Nami in an attempt to marry her.
Chopper's Kingdom on the Island of Strange Animals: Chopper is separated from the crew and fulfills a prophecy of O-Kan island, which results in him being conflicted between the Strawhats and his newfound status.
The Cursed Holy Sword: The Strawhats learn about the cursed Shichiseiken, which is the world's most beautiful sword. Zoro goes missing and later tries to retrieve the sword while battling his crewmates.
Stampede: The Strawhats join a treasure hunt to find something that belonged to Roger.


"If it was canon, readers would be obligated to watch it to get the full story, which is the reason why Oda doesn’t consider any movies canon."

Oda says movies cannot be canon because they would require mandatory viewing. This is because the movies sometimes include very critical plot points and character moments that would cause confusion in the instance they were canon to the story but not present in the manga. You do not have to watch 3D2Y to get the full story, as the manga and anime already show that Luffy trains with Rayleigh to advance his Haki abilities.

Oda recommends the databooks and vivre cards and considers them canon, but they are not a mandatory experience.

Like the databooks and vivre cards, 3D2Y is canon but does not have anything important enough to be considered mandatory viewing.

"And I’m pretty sure like all of these points have been gone over before"
Did you even bother reading the original post or just disagree on instinct

 

[Billybobjoe321]

Oda says movies cannot be canon because they would require mandatory viewing. This is because the movies sometimes include very critical plot points and character moments that would cause confusion in the instance they were canon to the story but not present in the manga.

Except that is not true. Not every movie would include plot points like that or have to include plot points like that. That is not the reason Oda gave.

You do not have to watch 3D2Y to get the full story, as the manga and anime already show that Luffy trains with Rayleigh to advance his Haki abilities.

You would if it was canon. The manga and anime does not nearly show as much of what happens during the timeskip. So if 3D2Y was canon, you would need to watch it if you wanted to get the full story.

Like the databooks and vivre cards, 3D2Y is canon but does not have anything important enough to be considered mandatory viewing.

the anime and manga leaves out a lot of what happens during the timeskip with luffy. 3D2Y does not. So if 3D2Y was canon, you would need to watch it to get the full story.

Did you even bother reading the original post or just disagree on instinct

i have, and I have given my reasons for disagreeing.

 

[SpeedblitzDuraNeg]

Except that is not true. Not every movie would include plot points like that or have to include plot points like that. That is not the reason Oda gave.

You would if it was canon. The manga and anime does not nearly show as much of what happens during the timeskip. So if 3D2Y was canon, you would need to watch it if you wanted to get the full story.

the anime and manga leaves out a lot of what happens during the timeskip with luffy. 3D2Y does not. So if 3D2Y was canon, you would need to watch it to get the full story.

i have, and I have given my reasons for disagreeing.

Why would you need to watch 3D2Y to get the full story? There are multiple forms of canon that do not require mandatory reading or watching. Oda saying the movies cannot be canon is because they literally have entire storylines that would require watching if they were canon.

All of this information is canon, but you do not need to know this to get the full story of One Piece. The contents of SBS responses, TV specials and movies are all fundamentally different. You cannot take Oda's statements on one medium and use them as justification for another, especially when Oda has literally specifically approved of 3D2Y intersecting with the main story, as well as 3D2Y being on the official chronological timeline.

"X is allegedly canon and includes developments of Y
Y is not explored in depth in the anime or manga
X cannot be canon because the information pertaining to Y is sufficient enough to deem X mandatory reading/watching"

Using this line of logic, you could argue that despite being authored by Oda himself, 90% of the SBS responses aren't canon, because the anime/manga doesn't talk about character hobbies/performance in certain sports/unique properties of bleeps. Each medium has specifically different conventions of information and intent, which is why Oda's comment about mandatory viewing is only in reference to the movies, not the TV specials. They are categorized differently for a reason.

 

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[LuffyRuffy46307]

I agree with that, i think i always considered the special to be canon for the manga.

 

[Kachon123]

Your profile pic + this... you're overly freaked out man

 

[Deceived3596]

Chary coming back after eating the Sus-Sus Fruit:

 

[SpeedblitzDuraNeg]

Your profile pic + this... you're overly freaked out man

? Weird way of saying Agree FRA

 

[Kaydee1648]

what is THAT pfp

 

[Lilybitdun]

vsbw members when facing the glory of yaoi for the first time

 

[SlendVeny]

vsbw members when facing the glory of yaoi for the first time

TRUE

 

[Saqphire]

Neutral (bcz of the translation song and dance), leaning towards agreeing FRA; the guy disagreeing keeps stonewalling and saying "Oda said it's non-canon" when Oda was talking about the films and not the TV specials which have multiple arguments as to why they are congruent with the main story

 

[Damage3245]

• The enemies were written by Oda specifically for the episode.
• The original characters are crucial to the episode.
• Byrnndi World was illustrated by Oda.

These are not points in favor of canonization. Authors can contribute to non-canon works set in their world/creation.

• The writers felt that the manga and anime did not explore Luffy's time skip training in depth, which inspired the idea for the episode.
• The writers presented the concept to Oda alongside the aforementioned reasoning and he gave them the OK.

Giving them the okay to make an anime-original story is not the same thing as giving them the okay to make additions ot the canon story.

• Teramoto says 3D2Y is a story that intersects with the main plotline.
• Termaoto says this intersection is why they had Oda review the script.
• Teramoto mentions implementing a festival vibe that Oda talked about, showing that Oda’s suggestions are in the episode.
• Teramoto refers to 3D2Y as a key episode that bridges the two year gap in both the manga and anime.

Teramoto isn't an authority on One Piece canon; I don't see why we should care what he has to say about it. Especially since what I assume is that the intention of this proposal is to revise the ratings of manga characters based on anime-original statements and feats located exclusively in 3D2Y and not the manga itself. So why should him saying "This is a story that intersects with the main plotline" matter in regards to powerscaling? Do we think that Oda had to change his intention for how strong the characters are based on what some other people wrote for an anime story?

• The brand of the liquor shown in the scene of Luffy/Ace/Sabo’s ritual is revealed in 3D2Y.
• 3D2Y is included in a chronological timeline available on the official One Piece website.

Not sure what relevance the liqour has to anything.

The anime special being included in the official One Piece website doesn't mean much to me. Of course it's something that takes place within a time window of the timeskip so it is easy to slot into a "timeline" of One Piece events. That doesn't mean it happened in the manga.

If we get confirmation in the manga that the events of it definitely occured in canon, then I'd be more open to it. Until then, my position remains the same as the previous thread this topic covered and I disagree with it.

 

[SpeedblitzDuraNeg]

1These are not points in favor of canonization. Authors can contribute to non-canon works set in their world/creation.



2Giving them the okay to make an anime-original story is not the same thing as giving them the okay to make additions ot the canon story.


3Teramoto isn't an authority on One Piece canon; I don't see why we should care what he has to say about it. Especially since what I assume is that the intention of this proposal is to revise the ratings of manga characters based on anime-original statements and feats located exclusively in 3D2Y and not the manga itself. So why should him saying "This is a story that intersects with the main plotline" matter in regards to powerscaling? Do we think that Oda had to change his intention for how strong the characters are based on what some other people wrote for an anime story?


4Not sure what relevance the liqour has to anything.

5The anime special being included in the official One Piece website doesn't mean much to me. Of course it's something that takes place within a time window of the timeskip so it is easy to slot into a "timeline" of One Piece events. That doesn't mean it happened in the manga.

6If we get confirmation in the manga that the events of it definitely occured in canon, then I'd be more open to it. Until then, my position remains the same as the previous thread this topic covered and I disagree with it.

1. How could they not be points in favor of canonization? The standard definition of canon involves the work being authoritative and official,
which is clearly exemplified by the fact that Oda wrote the characters for the special.

While it is true that he has done so for other animated works such as Strong World, the point is that he wrote the characters for 3D2Y in conjunction with him giving the animation staff the OK to create a story which attempts to reveal what Luffy did during his training, which insinuates that Oda was aware that 3D2Y was not going to be another instance of the Strawhats going to a random island.



2. He gave them the OK to make a special, the need of assurance was predicated on the writers feeling an inadequacy regarding the manga.

3. We should care about what Teramoto has to say about 3D2Y because he interviewed Oda, showed him the script, and got ideas from Oda. What reason is there to doubt the credibility of a producer that was directly communicating with the author of the manga? The post was for making the movie canon, and I explicitly said that nothing about the thread would involve profile changes, so I don't know what the point of this is besides personal incredulity. Teramoto saying it intersects with the main plotline is relevant because the previous statement is talking about standalone stories in comparison to stories that are related to the main story.

"Do we think that Oda had to change his intention for how strong the characters are based on what some other people wrote for an anime story?"
Termaoto & co. came up with the idea of a Luffy training episode. Oda was responsible for writing the original characters, not the production team.



Based on Oda reviewing the script and giving them suggestions, I think it is very clear that he recognizes this work as official.

4. The liquor shows that 3D2Y is considered by the One Piece website to be an official source of information.

5. It was listed on the timeline when other specials and episodes were not. "One Piece: Adventure of Nebulandia", ""One Piece Historical Drama Series: Luffy's Detective Story", ""One Piece: Heart of Gold"" are not included.

3D2Y has

• no contradictions to the manga
• multiple characters written by Oda
• Oda's approval for the script
• the producers talking about stories that focus on random events on an island and stories that affect the main plot, of which they describe 3D2Y as the latter

This site currently accepts the Ace Novel as canon. What reason is there for the Ace novel to be considered canon but not 3D2Y? The bottom line is that there is no reason to assume that 3D2Y is an unofficial work, considering the lack of any contradictions whatsoever, and the specific intent of the production team in making a meaningful story, in comparison to other animated works which were made as one off events. There is more proof and reason to categorize 3D2Y as an official, authoritative work than otherwise.

 

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[OrangeFR]

Why would you need to watch 3D2Y to get the full story? There are multiple forms of canon that do not require mandatory reading or watching. Oda saying the movies cannot be canon is because they literally have entire storylines that would require watching if they were canon.

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[Maniaunavailable]

agree with damage

 

[SpeedblitzDuraNeg]

agree with damage

Why is the Ace Novel considered canon when its not in the main manga (the boichi manga has plotholes and contradicts the novel btw)? Why are the databooks accepted as canon if they aren't in the manga? Why are the vivre cards considered canon if they aren't in the manga?

In The Novel:

• Ace found his Devil Fruit randomly on the island.,
• Deuce figures out Ace is Roger's son.,
• Ace chooses Deuce's name for him.,
• Ace fights Vice Admiral Draw.,
• Ensign Isuka is a relevant character.,
• Ace loses to Whitebeard badly in the final fight with no hints of observation haki or armament haki being used.,

In The Manga:

• Ace gets his Devil Fruit after defeating a giant bird on the island.,
• Deuce doesn't figure out that Ace is Roger's son until after they join the Whitebeard Pirates.,
• Deuce chooses his own name.,
• Vice Admiral Draw and Isuka never once appear.,
• Ace meets Rayleigh despite this never happening in the manga.,
• Ace shows island sized Devil Fruit attacks and even glimpses of future sight, despite nothing in the manga suggesting this even happened.
  

 

[SpeedblitzDuraNeg]

 

[Maniaunavailable]

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[SlendVeny]

You all laugh, but this is exactly the energy we need. How are we gonna win if we don't have a dude who's batshit?

 

[Mommyleona]

Why would you need to watch 3D2Y to get the full story? There are multiple forms of canon that do not require mandatory reading or watching. Oda saying the movies cannot be canon is because they literally have entire storylines that would require watching if they were canon.

All of this information is canon, but you do not need to know this to get the full story of One Piece. The contents of SBS responses, TV specials and movies are all fundamentally different. You cannot take Oda's statements on one medium and use them as justification for another, especially when Oda has literally specifically approved of 3D2Y intersecting with the main story, as well as 3D2Y being on the official chronological timeline.

"X is allegedly canon and includes developments of Y
Y is not explored in depth in the anime or manga
X cannot be canon because the information pertaining to Y is sufficient enough to deem X mandatory reading/watching"

Using this line of logic, you could argue that despite being authored by Oda himself, 90% of the SBS responses aren't canon, because the anime/manga doesn't talk about character hobbies/performance in certain sports/unique properties of bleeps. Each medium has specifically different conventions of information and intent, which is why Oda's comment about mandatory viewing is only in reference to the movies, not the TV specials. They are categorized differently for a reason.

i agree just for this

 

[Eminiteable]

1. How could they not be points in favor of canonization? The standard definition of canon involves the work being authoritative and official,
which is clearly exemplified by the fact that Oda wrote the characters for the special.

While it is true that he has done so for other animated works such as Strong World, the point is that he wrote the characters for 3D2Y in conjunction with him giving the animation staff the OK to create a story which attempts to reveal what Luffy did during his training, which insinuates that Oda was aware that 3D2Y was not going to be another instance of the Strawhats going to a random island.



2. He gave them the OK to make a special, the need of assurance was predicated on the writers feeling an inadequacy regarding the manga.

3. We should care about what Teramoto has to say about 3D2Y because he interviewed Oda, showed him the script, and got ideas from Oda. What reason is there to doubt the credibility of a producer that was directly communicating with the author of the manga? The post was for making the movie canon, and I explicitly said that nothing about the thread would involve profile changes, so I don't know what the point of this is besides personal incredulity. Teramoto saying it intersects with the main plotline is relevant because the previous statement is talking about standalone stories in comparison to stories that are related to the main story.

"Do we think that Oda had to change his intention for how strong the characters are based on what some other people wrote for an anime story?"
Termaoto & co. came up with the idea of a Luffy training episode. Oda was responsible for writing the original characters, not the production team.



Based on Oda reviewing the script and giving them suggestions, I think it is very clear that he recognizes this work as official.

4. The liquor shows that 3D2Y is considered by the One Piece website to be an official source of information.

5. It was listed on the timeline when other specials and episodes were not. "One Piece: Adventure of Nebulandia", ""One Piece Historical Drama Series: Luffy's Detective Story", ""One Piece: Heart of Gold"" are not included.

3D2Y has

• no contradictions to the manga
• multiple characters written by Oda
• Oda's approval for the script
• the producers talking about stories that focus on random events on an island and stories that affect the main plot, of which they describe 3D2Y as the latter

This site currently accepts the Ace Novel as canon. What reason is there for the Ace novel to be considered canon but not 3D2Y? The bottom line is that there is no reason to assume that 3D2Y is an unofficial work, considering the lack of any contradictions whatsoever, and the specific intent of the production team in making a meaningful story, in comparison to other animated works which were made as one off events. There is more proof and reason to categorize 3D2Y as an official, authoritative work than otherwise.

Honestly I agree.

 

[SlendVeny]

I disagree, but I also agree.

 

[SpeedblitzDuraNeg]

I disagree, but I also agree.

for which parts

 

[Maniaunavailable]

I disagree, but I also agree.

someone cooked here