Eminiteable
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As of chapter 992, I strongly believe that the Scabbards should be scaled to Kaido/Oden. They should also have three keys : 1. 20 years ago, 2. present day, prior to Wano Arc and 3. Onigashima battle. If it is later revealed that there was outside influence in their battle against Kaido, they just go back to scaling to JackI don't think the Scabbards are at the level in which they would normally harm Kaido. We already have 2 key events that support the idea that Oden specifically has done something to allow the Scabbards to harm Kaido without his level of skill/power/haki:
1) When the Scabbards first attack Kaido, he gets a flash-back, and notes that his scar is throbbing. He also displays confusion towards the Scabbards being able to pierce his skin, questioning if they know Oden's Ryuo. This is of course after he envisions Oden in the Scabbards who are charging him, momentarily causing him to drop his guard.
2) In chapter 992, he notes again that it is strange for them to be capable of hurting him when their swordsmanship and haki both pale in comparison to Oden's, indicating that there is some outside force (Oden's Haki being activated within Kaido via the presence of those who carry on his will, maybe) rendering Kaido vulnerable.
However, with the 6-B stuff being under question (and still the 6-C Fujitora meteor scaling to Doffy's threads matter to discuss), Kaido will end up in the same tier as the scabbards anyways, just listed as being "At least" or potentially "higher". There's also smaller feats that still need to be calc'd like Law using Telekinesis (Takt) to redirect Fujitora's Meteorite from hitting the Sunny.
If anything, if things go with either 6-C (or everyone is High 7-A in the upper tiers), it will look like this:
Doffy: 6-C -> G4(BM) Luffy: 6-C -> Kaido: At least 6-C (via damaging G4 Luffy and tanking hits from him) -> Scabbards: At least X-tier (depends where Jack ultimately ends up after the arc), possibly 6-C (Depending what comes of this whole "damage" debacle, and if they have feats against any other characters).
In the end, they might end up in the same tier regardless, but there's currently no support for the Scabbards being comparable to Oden/Kaido if there's currently a plot-device in play making it possible for them to actually hurt him this badly.
If we get some PST explanation like "Oh, Oden's Haki still lingers in Kaido's body, and Oden gave some of his to his followers, ya-dah ya-dah", they shouldn't be upgraded to Kaido's tier. Otherwise, if nothing comes of this, and they all just somehow got this strong, they scale. (Doffy < G4 Luffy < Kin'emon where's the logic )
Why you gotta delegitimize what's happening by calling it a "debacle" ?Doffy: 6-C -> G4(BM) Luffy: 6-C -> Kaido: At least 6-C (via damaging G4 Luffy and tanking hits from him) -> Scabbards: At least X-tier (depends where Jack ultimately ends up after the arc), possibly 6-C (Depending what comes of this whole "damage" debacle, and if they have feats against any other characters).
You clearly weren't there.Why you gotta delegitimize what's happening by calling it a "debacle" ?