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One Piece Discussion Thread Sixteen Return to Sabaody Archipelago
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I'm pretty sure Current Kaido should be considerably above Oden.
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Sengoku said that they are much stronger than they were 38 years ago. Oden fought against Kaido like what, about 25 years ago? (Considering that the flashback took place 30 years ago, Whitebeard being 44 in the flashback and 72 when he died, plus Oden dancing for 5 years on the streets, plus counting in the 2 years time skip in the present).
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Kaido that fought Oden wasn't apart of rocks anymore so that needs to be taken into considerationRexofLM said:
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Oden fought Kaido 20 years ago, not 25, and if you want to make the point a rusty Oden was the only man to scar Kaido that's fine also, what should be noted is in this recent chapter is "Kozuki Oden's strength surpassed the enemy's imagination" and Kaido himself was comparing Oden's likeness to both Roger and Whitebeard in the sense all three are mighty, as for the Sengoku quote although they likely got stronger in 38 years it should be noted that both big mom and Kaido value Manpower above all else it seems; Big Mom believed she could defeat the other four emperors if she had more family members (not if her own strength grew), and we learn in this chapter Kaido only had 1000 men at the time compared to now where he has 40,000, and Kaidos overall goal was to gain a massive army of smile users not to power level himself up.
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Ah man this again?
Look it comes down to three choices
1) Scale Oden to younger versions of Rocks Pirates
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2) Scale Oden to a MUCH younger version of shutenmaru
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3) Leave him unkown, which given he is probably over in terms of development means he might as well not get a profile page. . . :S
Look it comes down to three choices
1) Scale Oden to younger versions of Rocks Pirates
Or
2) Scale Oden to a MUCH younger version of shutenmaru
Or
3) Leave him unkown, which given he is probably over in terms of development means he might as well not get a profile page. . . :S
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Younger versions of the rocks pirates are unknown, Younger Shutenmaru was when Oden was around 18 which would be inaccurate, him scaling to Rayleigh is also inaccurate since they've got nothing to base a scale off nor can you really scale Prime Rayleigh to old Rayleigh since he's completely unknown.
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well right now im just thinking about the whole kaido vs oden thing i wonder what oda plans to do with zorro
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If Zoro even harms Kaido no doubt we'll be hearing a different tune about how Enma suddenly possesses Dura Negations Hax.
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true but the thing is zorro and sanji are likely not even gonna be a threat to anyone since we have blackbeard bigmom shanks and kaido so yeah its pretty sad but i dont think anyone else is gonna do anything.
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also by the way its pretty much over for hancock.
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i dont think shes gonna make it out of this arc
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Maybe, seems her sabo and Vivi may die.
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yeah but its hard for me to think how luffy is suppost to beat kaido in a week i mean i know it wasnt a fair fight as luffy wasnt in the right mind set but i dont see luffy being able to beat kaido in that short amount of time.
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but i do wonder if tankman could have blocked kaido's hit.
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You should edit your comments more so you don't have to make so many comments
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sorry i forget to do that some times
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I guess the first option then.Dr.Fix said:
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It's not like we're at EoS.
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It's not like this doesn't matter since the wano arc is going on
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We have an accepted Pica's island level+ feat.
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Isn't that higher than Zunesha?
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Zunesha's just the elephant being stand.
This is for Pica's walking.
This is for Pica's walking.
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Well it's not been confirmed, but Mihawk's Vivre card does state Mihawk's waiting for a swordmaster to emerge to surpass even shanks, but that's implications not direct confirmation but it's definitely likely.
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Funnily enough, Oda has been drawing the adult version of the Strawhats and he said that Zoro would look like that if nothing happens to him.
Inb4 Zoro dies before becoming the greatest swordsman
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Inb4 Zoro dies before becoming the greatest swordsman
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well ether way it doesnt matter since we on this part
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Hmm I always took that as; "ok this is what will happen just as the story goes" for the regular and for the ugly "ok this is what happens if something interrupted his story and he abandoned his goals".
Personally don't want any of the strawhats to fail in reaching their goal or for them to die prematurely (especially if Oda regrets the decision later and just introduces a new Zoro)
Personally don't want any of the strawhats to fail in reaching their goal or for them to die prematurely (especially if Oda regrets the decision later and just introduces a new Zoro)
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No, that's for the different endings.
Oda said that Zoro would have the good ending if nothing happens to him, which isn't what he has said about the other characters outside of the good/bad ending. It's really suspicious.
Oda said that Zoro would have the good ending if nothing happens to him, which isn't what he has said about the other characters outside of the good/bad ending. It's really suspicious.
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maybe he will die, just based off the thriller bark thing. NGL although I can see the benfits in a story and the impact would be good but at the same time it would be dissapointing for Zoro not to reach his goal by having that rematch with Mihawk (The Shiryu killing mihawk theory is lame for the same sort of reasons as it's sort of Kuina repeated.)
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Look dude it's just how oda likes to troll us I don't think he will kill zoro but it's a possibility
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