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Introduction
So, Fujitora's 6-A meteor calc is rather horrendous. Charmander was originally going to address it, but AKM sent him to the shadow realm, and thus here I am.
Calculation Issues
Issue number 1: the calc assumes the meteor traveled all 70 thousand kilometers in 10 seconds because the feat happens in 1 page. This is a horrible misrepresentation of what actually happened. If you view the page cited in the calc, the meteor is already extremely close to the island when we see it on the page. Visually eyeballing, the meteor is only a handful to 10s of kilometers above the island in the page that claims it traversed 70 thousand in 10 seconds. That assumption is blatant dishonesty in regards to the feat, and makes the assumed distance for the calc incorrect. Meaning the meteor's KE is incorrect.
Issue number 2: the visible destruction of the calc is far far far lower than the calculated KE of the meteor. This is in direct violation of our KE standards, that state KE cannot be used when the destruction contradicts the KE. You'll notice the meteor only destroys a handful of buildings, being generous that would amount to tier 7 tops. "But the strings absorbed the energy" yes but not appreciably so. In the same calc I linked, you'll notice the strings durability is calculated from the meteor's KE, and it's only High 6-C per string. Substracting High 6-C energy from 6-A energy still results in 6-A energy. So, the strings did not reduce the meteor's energy to the point where it would only destroy a handful of buildings. Meaning the calc is invalid because it violates our standards.
Calculation Rectifications
I see two ways of fixing this calc, using the same time frame for a 1 page feat, but measuring the distance we actually see to calc the KE. Or using the change in GPE of the meteor to get its energy.
If we went with the change in GPE of the meteor it would result in the following:
Meteor Energy = (3/5) * G * M_meteor * M_OPplanet * (1/(R_OPplanet + D_OPatmosphere) - 1/R_OPplanet) = (3/5) * 6.674e-11 * 172969430765 * 2.9881781e30 * (1/(1011533719.524/2) - 1/(1011533719.524/2 + 70,679,000)) = 5.017e21 J (Low 6-B)
And the strings = 0.00011545454 * 5.017e21 / 6 = 9.655e16 J (7-B) per string
Eyeballing the KE based on the visual distance in the page, it'd likely be far less than the GPE method. But considering we accept Fujitora pulls the meteors from space, the GPE method should be fine.
Conclusion
This obviously has a lot of ramifications for tiering within the verse, but I don't believe this calc fix is that complicated of a topic. Once we settle on a fix for the meteor, if it's GPE I can blog it, but if someone else has a better method we agree on they can blog it.
Edit: I forgot to add tags, sorry.
Agree: Kachon (tentatively), CGM DAMAGE (leaning agree with GPE replacement), TLLMBRG (leaning disagree with GPE replacement), CGM KLOL (no comment on GPE replacement)
Neutral: KINGTEMPEST (said whatever
I’m interpreting that as he’s fine with it)
Disagree:
So, Fujitora's 6-A meteor calc is rather horrendous. Charmander was originally going to address it, but AKM sent him to the shadow realm, and thus here I am.
Calculation Issues
Issue number 1: the calc assumes the meteor traveled all 70 thousand kilometers in 10 seconds because the feat happens in 1 page. This is a horrible misrepresentation of what actually happened. If you view the page cited in the calc, the meteor is already extremely close to the island when we see it on the page. Visually eyeballing, the meteor is only a handful to 10s of kilometers above the island in the page that claims it traversed 70 thousand in 10 seconds. That assumption is blatant dishonesty in regards to the feat, and makes the assumed distance for the calc incorrect. Meaning the meteor's KE is incorrect.
Issue number 2: the visible destruction of the calc is far far far lower than the calculated KE of the meteor. This is in direct violation of our KE standards, that state KE cannot be used when the destruction contradicts the KE. You'll notice the meteor only destroys a handful of buildings, being generous that would amount to tier 7 tops. "But the strings absorbed the energy" yes but not appreciably so. In the same calc I linked, you'll notice the strings durability is calculated from the meteor's KE, and it's only High 6-C per string. Substracting High 6-C energy from 6-A energy still results in 6-A energy. So, the strings did not reduce the meteor's energy to the point where it would only destroy a handful of buildings. Meaning the calc is invalid because it violates our standards.
Calculation Rectifications
I see two ways of fixing this calc, using the same time frame for a 1 page feat, but measuring the distance we actually see to calc the KE. Or using the change in GPE of the meteor to get its energy.
If we went with the change in GPE of the meteor it would result in the following:
Meteor Energy = (3/5) * G * M_meteor * M_OPplanet * (1/(R_OPplanet + D_OPatmosphere) - 1/R_OPplanet) = (3/5) * 6.674e-11 * 172969430765 * 2.9881781e30 * (1/(1011533719.524/2) - 1/(1011533719.524/2 + 70,679,000)) = 5.017e21 J (Low 6-B)
And the strings = 0.00011545454 * 5.017e21 / 6 = 9.655e16 J (7-B) per string
Eyeballing the KE based on the visual distance in the page, it'd likely be far less than the GPE method. But considering we accept Fujitora pulls the meteors from space, the GPE method should be fine.
Conclusion
This obviously has a lot of ramifications for tiering within the verse, but I don't believe this calc fix is that complicated of a topic. Once we settle on a fix for the meteor, if it's GPE I can blog it, but if someone else has a better method we agree on they can blog it.
Edit: I forgot to add tags, sorry.
Agree: Kachon (tentatively), CGM DAMAGE (leaning agree with GPE replacement), TLLMBRG (leaning disagree with GPE replacement), CGM KLOL (no comment on GPE replacement)
Neutral: KINGTEMPEST (said whatever
I’m interpreting that as he’s fine with it)Disagree:
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I’m just evil
