OP Resistance CRT

[Eseseso]

When Luffy, Zoro, Lucci, and Kaku are fighting the Lunarians, Shaka says that their resistance is due solely to their Lunarian blood.

This statement came after Lucci used Rokugan on them, which is dura neg, yet did negligible lasting damage.

Thus, King, being a lunarian, should get resistance to Internal Damage (aka limited resistance to Durability negation), since his Lunarian blood should thus protect him from internal damage dura neg.

 

[Eminiteable]

Makes sense to me.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Yeah, easy agree.

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

There were many people who can resist internal damage but duo to normal resistance like Kaidou, even Akainu didnt die from Whitebeard attacks that can also ignore durability, and we dont even count for haki, even pre time skip luffy resisted many of those attacks

 

[DaMonkeMan]

What

 

[Kachon123]

I disagree.

This is just Lunarians having durable internals. They're not resisting anything. The shockwave of Lucci's Rokuogan didn't get stopped before entering S-Bear's body. The shockwave did entire his body, it's just that his insides durable enough to that it didn't affect him.

 

[Eseseso]

There were many people who can resist internal damage but duo to normal resistance like Kaidou, even Akainu didnt die from Whitebeard attacks that can also ignore durability, and we dont even count for haki, even pre time skip luffy resisted many of those attacks

Kaido was bleeding from Red Roc due to its internal damage.

Jabra didn't die from Diable Jambe, yet the internal burning clearly damaged him.

Not dying from an attack doesn't mean you resist it.

I disagree.

This is just Lunarians having durable internals. They're not resisting anything. The shockwave of Lucci's Rokuogan didn't get stopped before entering S-Bear's body. The shockwave did entire his body, it's just that his insides durable enough to that it didn't affect him.

IMO this should still be something along the lines of Limited Resistance to Durability Negation.

 

[Kachon123]

IMO this should still be something along the lines of Limited Resistance to Durability Negation.

No, it's just durability.

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

Kaido was bleeding from Red Roc due to its internal damage.

Jabra didn't die from Diable Jambe, yet the internal burning clearly damaged him.

Not dying from an attack doesn't mean you resist it.

The fact that in most of the cases i spoke about they were able to keep fighting means they resisted it considering that Durability negation would have killed them otherwise since their resistance would be ignored and their organs heavily damaged or completely destroyed

 

[Eseseso]

No, it's just durability.

So you don't think King's organs have the same durability as the Seraphim?

Is that correct?

 

[Eminiteable]

I think it's more so that his internal body is as durable as his outside.

 

[Kachon123]

Resisting durability negation means that the durability negating attack was unable to enter your body for one reason or the other.

We have no proof that the Rokuogan did not enter S-Bear's body. In fact, the fact that Shaka nodded towards it being due to Lunarians' durability just disproves any form of resistance.

It's like Whitebeard vs Ace in the novel and in the spinoff manga, where Ace eventually grew to being able to burn Whitebeard's palm. The fire did in fact do its job in burning him, but the force of the attack wasn't enough to harm him.

In that same vein, the Rokuougan did its job in entering S-Bear's body, but it simply did not have enough force due to Lunarians being durable both inside and out.

 

[KingTempest]

This wiki doesn't even allow resisting dura negation

 

[Eminiteable]

This wiki doesn't even allow resisting dura negation

It does, Saitama has it I believe.

 

[Kachon123]

It does, Saitama has it I believe.

I was planning on removing that after OPM stops being affected by the CRT limit.

 

[Damage3245]

This wiki doesn't even allow resisting dura negation

It does, but it shouldn't in cases with "attacking internal organs" like this.

I think it should be removed from Saitama for the same reason that Kachon has posted here.

 

[Eseseso]

Resisting durability negation means that the durability negating attack was unable to enter your body for one reason or the other.

We have no proof that the Rokuogan did not enter S-Bear's body. In fact, the fact that Shaka nodded towards it being due to Lunarians' durability just disproves any form of resistance.

It's like Whitebeard vs Ace in the novel and in the spinoff manga, where Ace eventually grew to being able to burn Whitebeard's palm. The fire did in fact do its job in burning him, but the force of the attack wasn't enough to harm him.

In that same vein, the Rokuougan did its job in entering S-Bear's body, but it simply did not have enough force due to Lunarians being durable both inside and out.

That makes sense.
How would you suggest this be added to the profiles, then?

 

[Kachon123]

That makes sense.

How would you suggest this be added to the profiles, then?

A note on King's page saying that he is durable both internally and externally could work.

Or just don't add anything at all.

 

[Aseka]

Disagree fra.

 

[Eseseso]

Regardless, if we all agree that all Lunarians instead have internal durability comparable to their external durability, that'd be great too.

Would let me remove King's loss to Post Udon Luffy.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

That loss would be removed on the grounds of Rokougan scaling to post udon Luffy, and since we have no proof it does, we can't use it to say King would take Luffy's attacks as well as the Seraphim did with Rokougan.

 

[Eseseso]

That loss would be removed on the grounds of Rokougan scaling to post udon Luffy, and since we have no proof it does, we can't use it to say King would take Luffy's attacks as well as the Seraphim did with Rokougan.

If King's internals are as tough as his externals, Luffy's dura neg with "ryou" would do little to flame-on King.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

True that Ig.

 

[Kachon123]

I don't think that we can claim that Lunarians' internals are as durable as their Flame on durability (or Flame off durabiility too). Instead, we should just scale their internal durability to what they tanked.

In the specific case of King, his internals would scale to Hybrid Lucci's Rokuogan, since the Seraphim's durability come from King's DNA.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Lucci has no scaling with that though

 

[Eseseso]

I don't think that we can claim that Lunarians' internals are as durable as their Flame on durability (or Flame off durabiility too). Instead, we should just scale their internal durability to what they tanked.

In the specific case of King, his internals would scale to Hybrid Lucci's Rokuogan, since the Seraphim's durability come from King's DNA.

Good point.

Lucci has no scaling with that though

I mean, his initial Rokugan one-shot Atlas, whose durability is comparable to her AP which hurt Base Luffy somewhat.

Also, his Rokugan seemed to do as much to knock back S-Bear as G4 Luffy without Hao did, albeit neither of them actually hurt S-Bear.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Good point.


I mean, his initial Rokugan one-shot Atlas, whose durability is comparable to her AP which hurt Base Luffy somewhat.

Gag moment.

 

[Darkvie123]

There were many people who can resist internal damage but duo to normal resistance like Kaidou, even Akainu didnt die from Whitebeard attacks that can also ignore durability, and we dont even count for haki, even pre time skip luffy resisted many of those attacks

?

All of those are endurance and the characters you just named were hurt from the attacks.