OPM Saitama&Garou's Matter Manipulation

[MrTayman616]

(if its explained, can someone show me. i couldnt find the reason)

why garou and saitama doesnt have macro-quantum manipulation? even if its on a subatomic scale, manipulation of electrons scale to macro-quantum lvl.

for subatomic particles to imimate eachother's movements there, not just protons and neutrons, the elementary particles inside of them and their opposites, but electrons and positrons should also do it.

this page already shows electrons and positrons also start to imitate eachother's movements without interacting with eachother(otherwise annihilation :d).

antiparticles moving backwards in time is based on Feynman–Stückelberg interpretation which is in Quantum field theory. Feynman used Stückelbergs interpretation of positrons (he proposed the interpretation of the positrons as a positive energy electron traveling backward in time.)

garou and saitama must manipulate electrons and positrons here. which gives them macro-quantum manipulation
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also it seems like its a mistranslation.

they are manipulating the elementary particles inside of them. which should qualify for it. "サイタマにおいては彼を構成する全ての素粒子が". "素粒子" (translates for elementary particles. we also see it showing elementary particles which are electrons and positrons.) other line also uses the same word.

it says two type of elementary particles. which means electrons and positrons. we also saw that in that page. electrons and positrons are looking at each other when it says "began to mitate eachother"

even if its not a mistranslation (which seems like it is?) it wouldnt change it as manipulation of electrons and positrons is still required

 

[Kachon123]

This makes sense. This would change Garou and Saitama's matter manipulation from this:

Matter Manipulation (Sub-Atomic)

to this:

Matter Manipulation (Macro-Quantum)

 

[MrTayman616]

This makes sense. This would change Garou and Saitama's matter manipulation from this:


to this:

also one more thing. garou didnt learn this manipulation later. he already had it. cosmic mode version should have this and antimatter manipulation. he just perfected time travel later.

or maybe it doesnt change much?

 

[Kachon123]

also one more thing. garou didnt learn this manipulation later. he already had it. cosmic mode version should have this and antimatter manipulation. he just perfected time travel later.

or maybe it doesnt matter?

Avatars of God can only gain greater abilities the stronger they are individually.

Garou knew the mechanics on how to time travel via matter manipulation from even before he and Saitama landed back on Earth, but the wording implies that he wasn't actually capable of physically doing so up until that point. This is likely because he wasn't powerful enough to tap into more of the power from God's higher dimension, and could only do so after copying Saitama's strength over and over again.

 

[MrTayman616]

Avatars of God can only gain greater abilities the stronger they are individually.

Garou knew the mechanics on how to time travel via matter manipulation from even before he and Saitama landed back on Earth, but the wording implies that he wasn't actually capable of physically doing so up until that point. This is likely because he wasn't powerful enough to tap into more of the power from God's higher dimension, and could only do so after copying Saitama's strength over and over again.

this is saying that he wasnt strong enough for time travel. the better reason would be he saw it from saitama and did it himself. but it shouldnt matter. he's the first one who manipulates his particles. saitama sees it, copies it and perfects it. but still. garou did manipulate them. which means the problem wasnt there.

maybe his power wasnt enough for time travel. but it shouldnt change the matter and antimatter manipulation.

though it shouldnt change much even if he doesnt get it for cosmic mode

 

[Recon1511]

Yeah I argued about something similar before, that a "Peak" Cosmic Garou should have Time Travel since he learned it from copying Saitama during his final moments.

I guess the Macro Quantum stuff is fine too? We'd need a more proper explanation on the profile though.

 

[Qawsedf234]

We'd need a more proper explanation on the profile though.

Its pretty easy. This

Time Travel, Body Control, Matter Manipulation (Sub-Atomic) and Antimatter Manipulation (Travelled back in time by manipulating his own sub-atomic particles and anti-particles[5] [Note 1])

Becomes this

Time Travel, Body Control, Matter Manipulation (Macro-Quantum) and Antimatter Manipulation (Travelled back in time by manipulating his own sub-atomic particles and anti-particles[5] [Note 1][Note 2])

Note 2: Garou/Saitama's Matter Manipulation is considered Macro-Quantum since it involved them not only adjusting their atomic nuclei but their electrons and positrons as well.

 

[Recon1511]

Alright sounds good

 

[Megaraptor149]

Agree, what are we waiting for?

 

[MrTayman616]

Agree, what are we waiting for?

sry i wasnt active. should i call for someone? its the first time i created a threat, so i dunno what should i do now other than waiting :d

 

[Qawsedf234]

Agree, what are we waiting for?

A second mod