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After speaking in another thread with Kachon and Emin about this, I have finally decided to make a CRT on this.
As you may have guessed from the title, this CRT is meant to show why Sanji and Queen scale to the God Tier value.
1. When Zoan Queen used Brachio Bomber on Big Mom, he cracked her skull (with the crik crak sound effects representing the cracking), and hurt her head. Keep in mind that his OWN head/skull was unharmed by this impact, and this is better than like half of the feats base Kidd did against Big Mom.
1.5. Yes, she injured him right before this, but he was playing dead and was later shown to have only suffered moderate injuries.
2. Yes, he coughed up blood due to Marco's shockwave attack. That said, it did not badly cripple him or do any lasting damage, so saying that he downscales from it (especially when a large reason that it hurt him so much was due to dura neg, which even made King bleed a little) is pretty faulty. Not to mention, he was completely off-guard when this happened, and his own Brachio Launchers made him cough up just as much blood.
3. He's repeatedly portrayed as comparable to King, whether in combat against Sanji and Zoro alongside King or when he and King both talk down to Jack. Or when Zoro said Zoan Queen and King would both be tough to get through in order to make it to the roof. Similarly, DJ Sanji was portrayed as comparable to Buso Zoro when he and Zoro knocked down Queen and King, respectively, and Sanji saving Zoro by blocking Hybrid Queen's attack with DJ is portrayed as just as impressive as Zoro saving Sanji by blocking a strike from King.
4. He threatened to kill Apoo, and Apoo would rather fight the Straw Hats than fight him, implying that, at the very least, his Zoan form would be durable enough to take Apoo's DF attacks (which scale to Base Luffy, Kidd, and Zoro), and that his Zoan AP would be enough to kill Apoo, who took a Punk Gibson from Kidd.
4.5. Also, Apoo wasn't scared of base Kidd, yet was terrified of Queen (we'll assume Zoan Queen).
5. Sanji temporarily fought King and Queen off-screen in a 2v1, and while he got overpowered, bruised up, and sent flying due to both of their attacks, this still means he took some off-screen hits from King. Queen hurt Sanji in his Zoan form, meaning he'd scale.
6. Rooftop Zoro viewed both Zoan Queen AND King as powerful threats, and while Queen is shown as base in the panel, Zoro only said this after Queen stopped him and Luffy from reaching the roof via his Zoan form biting them and throwing them to the ground.
7. Marco said both King AND Queen would be hard to take down, even with his High 6-A attacks.
8. Yes Marco sent Base Queen (who IMO downscales from him) flying. A severely tired/injured Sanji sent an equally Hybrid Queen flying just as badly and took him out of Hybrid, while Base Queen only suffered a slash and headbump from Marco's kick.
Of course, he's far below Big Mom due to being terrified of her, and this would only apply to his Zoan form and not his base (since as mentioned his base was sent flying by Marco's single kick), but he still should scale to the value of, say, Ace level, or at least the level of Apoo's Devil Fruit (especially since Apoo thought he couldn't beat Queen).
Now, who scales to this:
1. Queen's Zoan/Hybrid Forms, his Brachio Launcher, and his Vinsmoke weaponry.
2. Onigashima Raid DJ Sanji, and everything that post-Exoskeleton Sanji has besides his Base.
Who does NOT scale:
1. Base King w/o his sword, as he only clashed with Base Sanji, and his Base is only portrayed as comparable to Hybrid Queen with his Marco-level sword.
2. Base Onigashima Raid Sanji, as while he clashed with Hybrid Queen, he was being clearly overwhelmed until he used Diable Jambe.
3. Base Queen: Nothing to put him on this level, and he got ragdolled by Marco's kick.
4. Monster Point Chopper: Yes he hurt Queen and fought him for 30 minutes off-screen, so that's good enough for downscaling, but Queen was very clearly messing around and had a clear advantage.
5. Base Post-Mink Medicine Zoro with no Buso Haki: Yes he blocked a Danmaku from King that sliced Zoan Queen's hide, but he was sent flying by it, so he would downscale from this at most.
As you may have guessed from the title, this CRT is meant to show why Sanji and Queen scale to the God Tier value.
1. When Zoan Queen used Brachio Bomber on Big Mom, he cracked her skull (with the crik crak sound effects representing the cracking), and hurt her head. Keep in mind that his OWN head/skull was unharmed by this impact, and this is better than like half of the feats base Kidd did against Big Mom.
1.5. Yes, she injured him right before this, but he was playing dead and was later shown to have only suffered moderate injuries.
2. Yes, he coughed up blood due to Marco's shockwave attack. That said, it did not badly cripple him or do any lasting damage, so saying that he downscales from it (especially when a large reason that it hurt him so much was due to dura neg, which even made King bleed a little) is pretty faulty. Not to mention, he was completely off-guard when this happened, and his own Brachio Launchers made him cough up just as much blood.
3. He's repeatedly portrayed as comparable to King, whether in combat against Sanji and Zoro alongside King or when he and King both talk down to Jack. Or when Zoro said Zoan Queen and King would both be tough to get through in order to make it to the roof. Similarly, DJ Sanji was portrayed as comparable to Buso Zoro when he and Zoro knocked down Queen and King, respectively, and Sanji saving Zoro by blocking Hybrid Queen's attack with DJ is portrayed as just as impressive as Zoro saving Sanji by blocking a strike from King.
4. He threatened to kill Apoo, and Apoo would rather fight the Straw Hats than fight him, implying that, at the very least, his Zoan form would be durable enough to take Apoo's DF attacks (which scale to Base Luffy, Kidd, and Zoro), and that his Zoan AP would be enough to kill Apoo, who took a Punk Gibson from Kidd.
4.5. Also, Apoo wasn't scared of base Kidd, yet was terrified of Queen (we'll assume Zoan Queen).
5. Sanji temporarily fought King and Queen off-screen in a 2v1, and while he got overpowered, bruised up, and sent flying due to both of their attacks, this still means he took some off-screen hits from King. Queen hurt Sanji in his Zoan form, meaning he'd scale.
6. Rooftop Zoro viewed both Zoan Queen AND King as powerful threats, and while Queen is shown as base in the panel, Zoro only said this after Queen stopped him and Luffy from reaching the roof via his Zoan form biting them and throwing them to the ground.
7. Marco said both King AND Queen would be hard to take down, even with his High 6-A attacks.
8. Yes Marco sent Base Queen (who IMO downscales from him) flying. A severely tired/injured Sanji sent an equally Hybrid Queen flying just as badly and took him out of Hybrid, while Base Queen only suffered a slash and headbump from Marco's kick.
Of course, he's far below Big Mom due to being terrified of her, and this would only apply to his Zoan form and not his base (since as mentioned his base was sent flying by Marco's single kick), but he still should scale to the value of, say, Ace level, or at least the level of Apoo's Devil Fruit (especially since Apoo thought he couldn't beat Queen).
Now, who scales to this:
1. Queen's Zoan/Hybrid Forms, his Brachio Launcher, and his Vinsmoke weaponry.
2. Onigashima Raid DJ Sanji, and everything that post-Exoskeleton Sanji has besides his Base.
Who does NOT scale:
1. Base King w/o his sword, as he only clashed with Base Sanji, and his Base is only portrayed as comparable to Hybrid Queen with his Marco-level sword.
2. Base Onigashima Raid Sanji, as while he clashed with Hybrid Queen, he was being clearly overwhelmed until he used Diable Jambe.
3. Base Queen: Nothing to put him on this level, and he got ragdolled by Marco's kick.
4. Monster Point Chopper: Yes he hurt Queen and fought him for 30 minutes off-screen, so that's good enough for downscaling, but Queen was very clearly messing around and had a clear advantage.
5. Base Post-Mink Medicine Zoro with no Buso Haki: Yes he blocked a Danmaku from King that sliced Zoan Queen's hide, but he was sent flying by it, so he would downscale from this at most.
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